ASoIAF/Game of Thrones general Discussion Thread

[The Jonathanian States]

That's what you think (thanks, by the way), but 3 out of 5 fingers and 11/10 Ironborn probably find him less nice - which of course is only a bonus.

Mannis is exception from rule, what only proves the rule.

And rule is "Green landers are pussies."

War is best thing in da life. Commit atroticies, burn houses and hear lamentation of women and cries of children. But westerosi are strange, they don't love it nor appreciate when ironborn show it to them. Silly weirdos
Peace is so boring. Besides, does they want to live forever or wut?

I really think the Dothraki and Ironborn should hold a pan-continental raider-associative convention. Maybe invite the Wildlings as a kind of special-status members, too.
And then they could discuss everything, from where best to loot, to how most effectively plunder and rape three towns at the same time. Into all of that mix in some drinks 'n fun, and you have amusement for the whole family 18+ and raider-exclusive.

Also, about Greenlanders being pussies......
Do you mean that instead of weakly throwing them into the water, actually are hard enough to chop their heads off?
You mean those Greenlanders who burned down the Iron Fleet when it tried to rebel against them? Or rather those Greenlanders who landed on the shores of Pyke and sent it walls falling? I mean, surely you most not mean those Greenlanders who entered Pyke and killed two sons of the King of Salt and Iron, taking the third prisoner, right? Or is it, long ago, those Greenlanders who sailed up the Iron Islands, conquered them, and decided F*ck it, we rule here now?

[Socialist Czechia]

Killing and terror is only what matters for krakens.

To have enough mayhem to please you before you'll die. Victory or defeat is just secondary thing.

That's why greenlanders couldn't never destroy ironborn utterly. They will just always return, when they are bored enough, doesn't giving a sh*t about long-term strategy or economy.

[Mormak]

Killing and terror is only what matters for krakens.

To have enough mayhem to please you before you'll die. Victory or defeat is just secondary thing.

That's why greenlanders couldn't never destroy ironborn utterly. They will just always return, when they are bored enough, doesn't giving a sh*t about long-term strategy or economy.

Which is why they are a Barbarian culture that is doomed to go to one Master to another, and it will never be one of their own choosing.

They are about like the Vandals or the Visigoths, the second Rome tires of them being the van in their armies, They will be obliterated.

[The Jonathanian States]

Killing and terror is only what matters for krakens.

To have enough mayhem to please you before you'll die. Victory or defeat is just secondary thing.

That's why greenlanders couldn't never destroy ironborn utterly. They will just always return, when they are bored enough, doesn't giving a sh*t about long-term strategy or economy.

Of course, that's great. Convincing yourself that defeat doesn't matter is great

[Socialist Czechia]

Killing and terror is only what matters for krakens.

To have enough mayhem to please you before you'll die. Victory or defeat is just secondary thing.

That's why greenlanders couldn't never destroy ironborn utterly. They will just always return, when they are bored enough, doesn't giving a sh*t about long-term strategy or economy.

Of course, that's great. Convincing yourself that defeat doesn't matter is great

Trust me, burned village with all it's inhabitants will fill you with joy regardless on war's outcome

Yeah, perhaps my enemies destroy my castle, but it was totally worth it.

Pleasure was aaaaall miiiiiine

[Corrian]

How's the show been? I can't watch it

[Socialist Czechia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsDv95Kf3RY

I wish I was so good in animation stuff.

[Bralia]

Damn you, G. R. R. Martin. I'm really starting to hate your chapter layout! Being dragged away from one of the most interesting storylines to one of the most boring is agonizing.

I'm itching to know the aftermath of the fight between Oberyn Martell and the Mountain. And now Martin drags me across the world to check back up on Daenarys and her petty conquests. Sometimes I feel as if Daenarys should get her own personal book, her story feels so far removed from the rest of the series. I'm so heavily invested in the politics of the west that I couldn't care less about Daenarys' weak dreams of glory. I have half a mind to skip her chapter altogether.

[Mormak]

Damn you, G. R. R. Martin. I'm really starting to hate your chapter layout! Being dragged away from one of the most interesting storylines to one of the most boring is agonizing.

I'm itching to know the aftermath of the fight between Oberyn Martell and the Mountain. And now Martin drags me across the world to check back up on Daenarys and her petty conquests. Sometimes I feel as if Daenarys should get her own personal book, her story feels so far removed from the rest of the series. I'm so heavily invested in the politics of the west that I couldn't care less about Daenarys' weak dreams of glory. I have half a mind to skip her chapter altogether.

...I think i'm in love.

[Bralia]

Damn you, G. R. R. Martin. I'm really starting to hate your chapter layout! Being dragged away from one of the most interesting storylines to one of the most boring is agonizing.

I'm itching to know the aftermath of the fight between Oberyn Martell and the Mountain. And now Martin drags me across the world to check back up on Daenarys and her petty conquests. Sometimes I feel as if Daenarys should get her own personal book, her story feels so far removed from the rest of the series. I'm so heavily invested in the politics of the west that I couldn't care less about Daenarys' weak dreams of glory. I have half a mind to skip her chapter altogether.

...I think i'm in love.

Hm?

[Mormak]

...I think i'm in love.

Hm?

Oh what you said resonated well with my own opinions.

Your opinions on Daneary's Honestly struck me as similar to my own views, She has never truly interested me such as other more compelling, and actually relevant characters have. Why would i care about her struggles against a few city states of slavers? Mother of dragons? Cross the damn ocean and be important then, But don't cut off actually interest plot lines to tell me about what is happening in Slaver's goddamn bay because i honestly don't care.

[Bralia]

Hm?

Oh what you said resonated well with my own opinions.

Your opinions on Daneary's Honestly struck me as similar to my own views, She has never truly interested me such as other more compelling, and actually relevant characters have. Why would i care about her struggles against a few city states of slavers? Mother of dragons? Cross the damn ocean and be important then, But don't cut off actually interest plot lines to tell me about what is happening in Slaver's goddamn bay because i honestly don't care.

Oh, yes, I fully agree.

I really wish Daenarys would just settle down where she is and forget her ambition for the Westerosi thrones. She's basically already achieved her "birthright" of being a queen, in my eyes. And I haven't even read about the assured conquest of Meereen yet. Chillax, mother of dragons, you've got yourself a kingdom, don't abandon the one you've (inadvertantly?) formed for one you're not likely to ever acquire.

[Socialist Czechia]

Oh what you said resonated well with my own opinions.

Your opinions on Daneary's Honestly struck me as similar to my own views, She has never truly interested me such as other more compelling, and actually relevant characters have. Why would i care about her struggles against a few city states of slavers? Mother of dragons? Cross the damn ocean and be important then, But don't cut off actually interest plot lines to tell me about what is happening in Slaver's goddamn bay because i honestly don't care.

Oh, yes, I fully agree.

I really wish Daenarys would just settle down where she is and forget her ambition for the Westerosi thrones. She's basically already achieved her "birthright" of being a queen, in my eyes. And I haven't even read about the assured conquest of Meereen yet. Chillax, mother of dragons, you've got yourself a kingdom, don't abandon the one you've (inadvertantly?) formed for one you're not likely to ever acquire.

I think majority of readers

tends to not like, hate or ignore Daenerys and her storyline completely. I've met just a very few people who read the books and actually liked her, be it character or just Slaver's Bay story itself.

[Ceannairceach]

Oh, yes, I fully agree.

I really wish Daenarys would just settle down where she is and forget her ambition for the Westerosi thrones. She's basically already achieved her "birthright" of being a queen, in my eyes. And I haven't even read about the assured conquest of Meereen yet. Chillax, mother of dragons, you've got yourself a kingdom, don't abandon the one you've (inadvertantly?) formed for one you're not likely to ever acquire.

I think majority of readers

tends to not like, hate or ignore Daenerys and her storyline completely. I've met just a very few people who read the books and actually liked her, be it character or just Slaver's Bay story itself.

I don't mind the character. I also don't mind Slaver's Bay. What I do mind is her in Slaver's Bay. She has a mission, a purpose in life that she is completely ignoring in favor of dicking around in that godsforsaken land.

[Socialist Czechia]

I think majority of readers

tends to not like, hate or ignore Daenerys and her storyline completely. I've met just a very few people who read the books and actually liked her, be it character or just Slaver's Bay story itself.

I don't mind the character. I also don't mind Slaver's Bay. What I do mind is her in Slaver's Bay. She has a mission, a purpose in life that she is completely ignoring in favor of dicking around in that godsforsaken land.

I would don't mind, though

if she reasonably didn't gave any sh*t about Westeros anymore and 'simply' tried to recreate Valyrian Freehold, starting with Yunkai and ending with Dragonstone and Braavos and then simply saved the day from Others, not until literally everyone will beg for her return. But I know that such a thing would take at least 10-20 another books/years, even if she was GRRM's version of Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great.

[Ceannairceach]

I don't mind the character. I also don't mind Slaver's Bay. What I do mind is her in Slaver's Bay. She has a mission, a purpose in life that she is completely ignoring in favor of dicking around in that godsforsaken land.

I would don't mind, though

if she reasonably didn't gave any sh*t about Westeros anymore and 'simply' tried to recreate Valyrian Freehold, starting with Yunkai and ending with Dragonstone and Braavos and then simply saved the day from Others, not until literally everyone will beg for her return. But I know that such a thing would take at least 10-20 another books/years, even if she was GRRM's version of Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great.

Honestly, I'm done with Essos. I'm ready for her to pack up and leave that continent to suffer in perpetual agony. They had their empire, it is Westeros's time now. And if fire and blood is what it will take, then by god, fire and blood it will be.

[Socialist Czechia]

I would don't mind, though

if she reasonably didn't gave any sh*t about Westeros anymore and 'simply' tried to recreate Valyrian Freehold, starting with Yunkai and ending with Dragonstone and Braavos and then simply saved the day from Others, not until literally everyone will beg for her return. But I know that such a thing would take at least 10-20 another books/years, even if she was GRRM's version of Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great.

Honestly, I'm done with Essos. I'm ready for her to pack up and leave that continent to suffer in perpetual agony. They had their empire, it is Westeros's time now. And if fire and blood is what it will take, then by god, fire and blood it will be.

Remember,

there could be just three books, with many less chars, so I guess third one would be about anything what seventh book will be.
to be honest, i think 5 would be more than enough. I could live with less characters's POVs.
she will just took her army and dragons, she'll land in Dorne or Stormlands, and will kick Others's asses in one super epic gondor-like battle, and sat on throne as not only queen but humanity's savior. end of story.
everything between Ned Stark's head and that is just to make people crazy and make more monah it seems to me

[Rich and Corporations]

it's quite baffling that the books have an exponential increase in characters and in deaths

[New Frenco Empire]

I don't mind the character. I also don't mind Slaver's Bay. What I do mind is her in Slaver's Bay. She has a mission, a purpose in life that she is completely ignoring in favor of dicking around in that godsforsaken land.

I would don't mind, though

if she reasonably didn't gave any sh*t about Westeros anymore and 'simply' tried to recreate Valyrian Freehold, starting with Yunkai and ending with Dragonstone and Braavos and then simply saved the day from Others, not until literally everyone will beg for her return. But I know that such a thing would take at least 10-20 another books/years, even if she was GRRM's version of Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great.

That would be pretty great.

After the battle is won, just appoint the Shavepate Lord of Meereen and meet up with Aegon. He seems to be a harsh, yet competent ruler. Dany might not like that very much, but she's growing fast and he's probably the only one capable of the job.

After that, well, it's time for the rape train of Unsullied + Dragons + (potentially) Jhaqo's khalasar.

[Charellia]

I would don't mind, though

if she reasonably didn't gave any sh*t about Westeros anymore and 'simply' tried to recreate Valyrian Freehold, starting with Yunkai and ending with Dragonstone and Braavos and then simply saved the day from Others, not until literally everyone will beg for her return. But I know that such a thing would take at least 10-20 another books/years, even if she was GRRM's version of Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great.

That would be pretty great.

After the battle is won, just appoint the Shavepate Lord of Meereen and meet up with Aegon. He seems to be a harsh, yet competent ruler. Dany might not like that very much, but she's growing fast and he's probably the only one capable of the job.

After that, well, it's time for the rape train of Unsullied + Dragons + (potentially) Jhaqo's khalasar.

That doesn't sound like the Aegon I was reading. He came across as inexperienced and easily manipulated, not just by his mentor, but by a near stranger (aka Tyrion). I think you might be confusing Aegon with Stannis.

[Lunas Legion]

it's quite baffling that the books have an exponential increase in characters and in deaths

G.R.R.M needed to add all those characters so he can kill them off later.

[Islamic republiq of Julundar]

it's quite baffling that the books have an exponential increase in characters and in deaths

G.R.R.M needed to add all those characters so he can kill them off later.

[New Frenco Empire]

That would be pretty great.

After the battle is won, just appoint the Shavepate Lord of Meereen and meet up with Aegon. He seems to be a harsh, yet competent ruler. Dany might not like that very much, but she's growing fast and he's probably the only one capable of the job.

After that, well, it's time for the rape train of Unsullied + Dragons + (potentially) Jhaqo's khalasar.

That doesn't sound like the Aegon I was reading. He came across as inexperienced and easily manipulated, not just by his mentor, but by a near stranger (aka Tyrion). I think you might be confusing Aegon with Stannis.

I was referring to Skahaz Mo Kandaq, the Shavepate, in regards to who Dany should leave behind. My mistake. It did look seem like I was speaking about Aegon.

The fuck I think Aegon would make a good king on his own. He's rather arrogant, and content with being a puppet. He needs Dany a lot more than she needs him.

[Mormak]

That would be pretty great.

After the battle is won, just appoint the Shavepate Lord of Meereen and meet up with Aegon. He seems to be a harsh, yet competent ruler. Dany might not like that very much, but she's growing fast and he's probably the only one capable of the job.

After that, well, it's time for the rape train of Unsullied + Dragons + (potentially) Jhaqo's khalasar.

That doesn't sound like the Aegon I was reading. He came across as inexperienced and easily manipulated, not just by his mentor, but by a near stranger (aka Tyrion). I think you might be confusing Aegon with Stannis.

Stannis is far to awesome to be confused with that whelp.

[New Frenco Empire]

That doesn't sound like the Aegon I was reading. He came across as inexperienced and easily manipulated, not just by his mentor, but by a near stranger (aka Tyrion). I think you might be confusing Aegon with Stannis.

Stannis is far to awesome to be confused with that whelp.

He's also far too irrelevant in the greater story to be confused with her, either.