ASoIAF/Game of Thrones general Discussion Thread

[The Huskar Social Union]

There was a lot of super solidly done stuff in Season 8, just the plot was very poor for Game of Thrones in a lot of ways, so I could see it.

There was wonderful quality to the film-making, as there was throughout the show, but it was undercut by some woeful writing.

Lets hope the upcoming Targaryen Series has some better quality writing. Thankfully its not the same show runners so hopefully its not as bad as season 8 lmao

[Fransicania]

Personally i would have preferred if the Targaryen show was about Aegon's Conquest of Westeros.

[Infected Mushroom]

Wouldn’t mind a series about how D and D failed Season 8.

Story arc is simple (though it will take fictional liberties for drama’s sake). In the beginning D and D live in rundown apartments and are desperate young writers. They meet George R Martin when they find out about the possibility to adapt the book and there’s this other shoehorned in rival writer that we are forced to hate and shouldn’t want to get the writing contract. A “kick the dog” type of character who gloats, boasts, and bullies D and D. After 2-3 episodes, D and D play some kind of a mind game and get the gig, something about knowing L+R=J, saying the right phrases to Martin, and mind gaming the “bad writer” into messing up. Just like with Social Network, everything must somehow come from girls so somehow D and D have romantic interests that give them that idea/spark/motivation to win.

Oh and as for Martin in the show? He can lean on the haughty cold Renaissance painter/Stannis type personality where he thinks its not about the money it’s about art, and at first is condescending towards D and D. However, his approval is supposed to matter.

The next few episodes would show GOT’s success and how D and D get corrupted into a new lifestyle. Their relationships suffer, they become excessively arrogant, move into big houses etc… all the girls start to realize that the Real Them is gone (reviewers may find these girls to be poorly written and naggy). The resentful rival writer tries to sabotage them a few times but D and D have plot armor and are suddenly have Michael Corleone charisma/plotting level and keeps on winning regardless.

And then Star Wars comes along and well… you probably know what the final 2-3 episodes will do. The writing should have a bit of Shakespeare with foreshadowing and with people telling them “hey, be careful.” Other writers, actors and fans working with D and D are also in the plot. They “could have saved the show” but because of D and D’s use of their power as the people who call the shots and intricacies of modern capitalism and oppressive contracts and threats, they (after some tension) back down and go the D and D route.

“The thing is that err… Danny… she sort of forgot about the existence of the Iron Fleet.”

Also, put in tons of European art house style scenes where the writers walk around all brooding in slow mo while sombre classical music/baroque plays.

…

Honestly, it should probably be 1-5 episode miniseries. That’s probably the best pacing.

[Myrensis]

Anyone here like me, still really mad that Bronn got High Garden?

I don’t know why, it just makes me angry.

Are you suggesting that the various noble families of the Reach wouldn't just quietly accept a lowborn mercenary being handed rule of the richest and most fertile land in all the Seven Kingdoms on the basis of a promise extracted at crossbow point under the authority of a mad tyrant Queen whose reign lasted like 2 days?

Season 8 really is just layer upon layer of stupid.

[Infected Mushroom]

Anyone here like me, still really mad that Bronn got High Garden?

I don’t know why, it just makes me angry.

Are you suggesting that the various noble families of the Reach wouldn't just quietly accept a lowborn mercenary being handed rule of the richest and most fertile land in all the Seven Kingdoms on the basis of a promise extracted at crossbow point under the authority of a mad tyrant Queen whose reign lasted like 2 days?

Season 8 really is just layer upon layer of stupid.

The small council scene at the very end made me kind of angry.

1. Tyrion not being mentioned in the histories (like why?)
2. Bronn being made Lord of Highgarden (and dominating the meeting with his highly offensive views)
3. Somehow a professor X rip off in a wheelchair has become King of Westeros (and shows no interest in ruling anyways)
4. The new Kingsguard armor

[New Baltenstein]

Anyone here like me, still really mad that Bronn got High Garden?

I don’t know why, it just makes me angry.

Are you suggesting that the various noble families of the Reach

I am sorry, who? We all know that the entire ruling class - nay, society - of the Reach consisted exclusively of the Tyrell and Tarly nuclear families.

[Valyrian Commonwealth]

I enjoy ASOIAF/Game of Thrones, and i am looking forward to the house of dragon

[New haven america]

I've changed my views.

Cersei is Jon's mom.

Just the sexual tension between her and Ned anytime they're together is a sight to behold. Whew, calm down Georgie, please.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I've changed my views.

Cersei is Jon's mom.

Just the sexual tension between her and Ned anytime they're together is a sight to behold. Whew, calm down Georgie, please.

I mean it is Lena Headey so fair dues Ned

I enjoy ASOIAF/Game of Thrones, and i am looking forward to the house of dragon

Im looking forward to it as well though im gona be a bit cautious which i think is the healthy approach.

[New haven america]

I enjoy ASOIAF/Game of Thrones, and i am looking forward to the house of dragon

Not particularly thrilled.

I'm just sayin' after the super effects heavy seasons 7 and 8 and how well those were recieved, it seems odd to jump to a story that'll require special effects for like, 50-150 something large flying reptiles.

Likewise, the head writer's main credits are from Hercules (2014) and Rampage, so...

[Infected Mushroom]

I enjoy ASOIAF/Game of Thrones, and i am looking forward to the house of dragon

Not particularly thrilled.

I'm just sayin' after the super effects heavy seasons 7 and 8 and how well those were recieved, it seems odd to jump to a story that'll require special effects for like, 50-150 something large flying reptiles.

Likewise, the head writer's main credits are from Hercules (2014) and Rampage, so...

It's going to be the same focus on Hollywood special effects and spectacle scenes ("WOO HOO A DRAGON!"), bland dialogue and cock jokes, and some big promise of a massive payoff that is never delivered.

At some point if GRRM is even consulted, he will leave. And then the studio will go, "Hmmm... it's time to bring D and D back to write this thing."

...

Clearly, they haven't learned. Dragons are a deathtrap.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Not particularly thrilled.

I'm just sayin' after the super effects heavy seasons 7 and 8 and how well those were recieved, it seems odd to jump to a story that'll require special effects for like, 50-150 something large flying reptiles.

Likewise, the head writer's main credits are from Hercules (2014) and Rampage, so...

It's going to be the same focus on Hollywood special effects and spectacle scenes ("WOO HOO A DRAGON!"), bland dialogue and cock jokes, and some big promise of a massive payoff that is never delivered.

At some point if GRRM is even consulted, he will leave. And then the studio will go, "Hmmm... it's time to bring D and D back to write this thing."

...

Clearly, they haven't learned. Dragons are a deathtrap.

Martin has already been involved in this new series. And no i dont think they are gona bring D and D back considering they are soo disliked over how GoT ended and even got dropped from the Star Wars project they were gona be working on by Disney.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I enjoy ASOIAF/Game of Thrones, and i am looking forward to the house of dragon

Not particularly thrilled.

I'm just sayin' after the super effects heavy seasons 7 and 8 and how well those were recieved, it seems odd to jump to a story that'll require special effects for like, 50-150 something large flying reptiles.

Likewise, the head writer's main credits are from Hercules (2014) and Rampage, so...

I dont think the Targaryens had between 50-150 dragons by the reign of Viserys I. In fact i think most of the few dozen dragons they had when the Dance of Dragons began were still quite small and killed in the dragon pit by soldiers.

edit: At least from what i can remember, correct me if im wrong

[Kavagrad]

Not particularly thrilled.

I'm just sayin' after the super effects heavy seasons 7 and 8 and how well those were recieved, it seems odd to jump to a story that'll require special effects for like, 50-150 something large flying reptiles.

Likewise, the head writer's main credits are from Hercules (2014) and Rampage, so...

I dont think the Targaryens had between 50-150 dragons by the reign of Viserys I. In fact i think most of the few dozen dragons they had when the Dance of Dragons began were still quite small and killed in the dragon pit by soldiers.

edit: At least from what i can remember, correct me if im wrong

20 dragons at the end of Viserys I's reign, 4 by the end of the Dance.

[New Baltenstein]

It's going to be the same focus on Hollywood special effects and spectacle scenes ("WOO HOO A DRAGON!"), bland dialogue and cock jokes, and some big promise of a massive payoff that is never delivered.

At some point if GRRM is even consulted, he will leave. And then the studio will go, "Hmmm... it's time to bring D and D back to write this thing."

...

Clearly, they haven't learned. Dragons are a deathtrap.

Martin has already been involved in this new series.

With all these projects he's involved in, you really gotta wonder where he is finding the time to continue the book series.

Oh that's right, he doesn't

[The Huskar Social Union]

Martin has already been involved in this new series.

With all these projects he's involved in, you really gotta wonder where he is finding the time to continue the book series.

Oh that's right, he doesn't

haha

I dont think the Targaryens had between 50-150 dragons by the reign of Viserys I. In fact i think most of the few dozen dragons they had when the Dance of Dragons began were still quite small and killed in the dragon pit by soldiers.

edit: At least from what i can remember, correct me if im wrong

20 dragons at the end of Viserys I's reign, 4 by the end of the Dance.

cheers

[New haven america]

Martin has already been involved in this new series.

With all these projects he's involved in, you really gotta wonder where he is finding the time to continue the book series.

Oh that's right, he doesn't

November 13 2023.

If not that, then we should imprison him and force him to finish them. (He has said we're legally allowed to)

[Infected Mushroom]

I didn't know Tywin Lannister was in Dracula. This is really cool.

Dracula meets a potential ally. Tywin shows up to the tune of Game of Thrones style music.

Tywin: "Let the games begin."

[Infected Mushroom]

It's going to be the same focus on Hollywood special effects and spectacle scenes ("WOO HOO A DRAGON!"), bland dialogue and cock jokes, and some big promise of a massive payoff that is never delivered.

At some point if GRRM is even consulted, he will leave. And then the studio will go, "Hmmm... it's time to bring D and D back to write this thing."

...

Clearly, they haven't learned. Dragons are a deathtrap.

Martin has already been involved in this new series. And no i dont think they are gona bring D and D back considering they are soo disliked over how GoT ended and even got dropped from the Star Wars project they were gona be working on by Disney.

That's exactly what I want to hear. That's exactly what I want to hear.

[Tarsonis]

Martin has already been involved in this new series. And no i dont think they are gona bring D and D back considering they are soo disliked over how GoT ended and even got dropped from the Star Wars project they were gona be working on by Disney.

That's exactly what I want to hear. That's exactly what I want to hear.

Except that means winds of winter will never be published

[Myrensis]

I didn't know Tywin Lannister was in Dracula. This is really cool.

Dracula meets a potential ally. Tywin shows up to the tune of Game of Thrones style music.

Tywin: "Let the games begin."

Remember when Dracula Untold was supposed to launch Universal's "Dark Universe"?

[The Huskar Social Union]

I didn't know Tywin Lannister was in Dracula. This is really cool.

Dracula meets a potential ally. Tywin shows up to the tune of Game of Thrones style music.

Tywin: "Let the games begin."

Remember when Dracula Untold was supposed to launch Universal's "Dark Universe"?

I thought that was the Mummy movie with Tom Cruise?

That's exactly what I want to hear. That's exactly what I want to hear.

Except that means winds of winter will never be published

Honestly at this point i unironically think its never coming out.

[Myrensis]

Remember when Dracula Untold was supposed to launch Universal's "Dark Universe"?

I thought that was the Mummy movie with Tom Cruise?

No, the Mummy was supposed to revive it after Dracula Untold flopped. Oops.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I thought that was the Mummy movie with Tom Cruise?

No, the Mummy was supposed to revive it after Dracula Untold flopped. Oops.

lmao i didnt know that

[Tarsonis]

I would have liked to see more Van Helsing movies. Movie got a lot of flack but I thought it was great.