Charellia wrote:Mormak wrote:
Yeah we did this dance before, and if you recall trying to claim i lack comprehensions of the subject doesn't work. I am clearly well invested with the Lore.
But if you are done trying to hurt my internet feelings we can do this little debate again.
No, He sounds quite like a Hypocrite. His Mother did the Karstarks near the same dishonor and it was brushed off with a word, He broke faith with the Freys and it was all forgiven because he was appointed "King" But the same code of Honor applies to him as well, he was a self deluded teenager, not a man of honor that people portray him as.
A.He failed utterly at keeping the North together, even got a title for it. "The King who lost the North" His war went into the gutter because he failed to disclose his battle plans with his commanders, in the very instance he NEEDED to tell them, exactly what to do because his overly complicated plan ended up costing him the war. His lack of tact and faith, cost him one of his largest supporters and, Further weakened his dying cause and executing the Karstark was the blow that cast the final nail into his coffin. He failed at keeping the North Together, if he had kept it together through tact, diplomacy and wit he would have done so, instead his lack of all three cost his cause. The Greyjoys picked their moment and picked it well and struck hard, but it wasn't they who defeated the North, it was robb. He picked some battles well, and even had adequate strategy but he failed, because he ultimately didn't do what you claim him of doing here.
B.See above.
C. His Mother did that actually as you well know, She struck the terms, robb merely gave his consent. And ironically enough? Since we are disusing Honor here, it seems rather humorous to mention that, he broke faith here, he didn't honor his contract. The Freys who pledged swords and bled and die for him, were betrayed by him.
D. Actually wielding a sword is more about depth perception and coordination, rather then any show of mental aptitude or ineptitude, you do not need to be a scholar to wield a metal stick as our own history has shown.
Oh!Hooray, shared interests! I did a bit of studying on Psychology myself and i found him quite fitting for a Narcissistic personality disorder. Mostly ironically enough because of his claims to honor, that his own behavior didn't live up to, hence me beliving that he viewed himself as above it, Add in his lack of empathy and all you really need is the obsessive preoccupation of the self.
Trying to diagnose fictional characters with mental illness is almost never a good idea. Even trying to diagnose clearly mentally ill characters like Joffrey would be inadvisable. For a character like Robb Stark trying to do a diagnosis is just ridiculous. You could look at the actions of any fictional character and find symptoms of mental illness. Unless other characters observe signs of mental illness you should not fall into the trap of trying to diagnose.
I would like an example of Robb's lack of empathy.
Can we at least diagnose Aerys II with pyromania and pyrophelia.
