ASoIAF/Game of Thrones general Discussion Thread

[Chadacian]

In what logical world does Bran actually accept the Kingship. I feel like I just got punked.

what else was he gonna do?

I definitely didn't expect him to say, "Why do you think I came all this way?"

[Tarsonis]

what else was he gonna do?

Say that he is the three-eyed raven.

Where does it say the Three Eyed Raven can’t be king? Don’t remember that addendum to the 3ER contract. Plus Tyrion specifically points it out when he picks him. Imagine that actually, every king/queen also becomes the next 3ER. They receive all the knowledge of the world and every monarch before them to assist in their rule, and they lose all sense of personal desire and ambition. Wearing the crown is no longer a political goal but an actual burden and sacrifice one must under take. Lords stop jockeying for the crown because nobody wants to give up so much. Westeros royalty is now actually fucking competent and the strife in the land fades away within a generation. Actually a pretty brilliant plan

[Ism]

No, sequel. As in, things that will happen after this series.

I haven’t seen any plot details for the other spinoffs but the only confirmed one was set 5000 years in the past I honestly don’t think we’re gonna get sequel with any of these characters. The final scenes was more showing what they’re doing with their lives. John returns to where he belongs as Lord Commander of the Nights Watch, Sansa is Queen of the North, and Arya is a bit of an homage to the Blues from Tolkien’s Silmarillion where they travel east from middle earth and are never heard from again. I’m pretty sure it’s done fam.

Say that he is the three-eyed raven.

Where does it say the Three Eyed Raven can’t be king? Don’t remember that addendum to the 3ER contract. Plus Tyrion specifically points it out when he picks him. Imagine that actually, every king/queen also becomes the next 3ER. They receive all the knowledge of the world and every monarch before them to assist in their rule, and they lose all sense of personal desire and ambition. Wearing the crown is no longer a political goal but an actual burden and sacrifice one must under take. Lords stop jockeying for the crown because nobody wants to give up so much. Westeros royalty is now actually fucking competent and the strife in the land fades away within a generation. Actually a pretty brilliant plan

For Arya, I thought that was more of a reference to Brandon the Shipwright. Also, did she ever mention wanting to sail west, or sail in general? Because I thought that was weird. Not exactly out of character, but just a very odd thing for her to do.

As for each new king becoming the next 3ER, that's an interesting idea, but it's not actually established that this was the case in the show. In fact, the rules of the show indicate that it is the lords and ladies of Westeros who will pick the king or queen from now on, which would happen after the current monarch is dead, probably quite a bit after, as it would take time for them to assemble and deliberate. That would make it very difficult for monarchs from this point on to be the 3ER, not unless succession turns into a de facto appointment system, which defeats the purpose of the elective monarchy they introduced in this episode.

The episode, eh, it's not bad, but it's definitely not good. The two biggest strikes against it are Drogon and Grey Worm. Drogon melts the Iron Throne which, ok, cool visual, metaphor's a bit on the nose but ok. But he doesn't do anything to Jon? Really? Why? Oh, we're, we're just going to cut to the next scene without any explanation then. Cool.

And Grey Worm, I get him leaving Jon alive for the sake of negotiations, I would have also understood him killing Jon though, and that does seem more in character for him, especially in his current state. But Tyrion? Come on, the only person left who cares at all about him is Sansa, and not that much, as shown by her using him to break apart Dany's court. Only reason he lived seems to be so he could make Bran the king.

Now, there were also things that were weird but wouldn't be too bad if not for the two points above. I'll reiterate my confusion over Arya's deciding to sail West, which does just strike me as a strange choice. Similarly is Grey Worm's going to Nath, which seems like something that would torture him with memories of Missandei. I can kind of see it as him trying to live the life he hoped to live with her in her memory, but it just seemed off. Sam's proposal of democracy actually got me to facepalm, stupid thing to suggest and weird idea for him to put forward. I guess he got a feel for the system from the Night's Watch and the Freefolk, but still, he should have known better. And on the subject of Sam, his being made Grand Maester is strange. I'm pretty sure he skipped out on his training, stole books from the Citadel and disobeyed orders from the Archmaester, so, yeah, weird that he got such a prestigous post. And again, I can see Bran pulling strings to get Sam out of trouble and to get him that post, offering to help the Maesters with their histories for instance, but this, like all these other "I can see x" statements are explanations that the episode should have provided, not left me to figure out for myself.

Another of these issues was Edmure trying to get the crown. It was weird for him to do so, the guy spent the last 6 years or so in a cell, and the last time we saw him he handed Riverrun over to the Freys. Why the fuck would he think for a second anyone would support him? The idea was actually so ridiculous that I was debating whether or not he was Edmure, or if this was some other character I'd forgotten. Tyrion being made Hand, ugh. Look, the guy has spent the last 4 seasons screwing up to various degrees, I just don't see why he should be trusted with the job, considering he failed so many times at it. Finally, Bran let Bronn be made Lord of Highgarden and Lord Paramount of the Reach? That doesn't seem like a good idea, given Bronn's a mercenary at heart. Handing him the keys o the most powerful and wealthy kingdom seems ill conceived. Also, Master of Coin is a terrible idea because, again, mercenary at heart. Would have been better to make him Master of War I think.

That being said, the episode does have some good bits to it. I liked Jon killing Daenerys how he did, no great battle, no honorable challenge, just hitting her when her guard was down, like he was going to do Mance Rayder four years ago. Then his going North to be with Ghost and the Freefolk, I did suspect that was where his story was going. Still doesn't excuse his not petting Ghost though.Dick. Sansa becoming Queen in the North was also good, I liked the idea of the North finally standing on it's own after all it suffered. Only downside is that she can't become Bran's Master of Whisperers.

All in all, I think I'm gonna give this one a 2. It just raises more questions than a conclusion should, and some of the answers it provides are meh or worse.

[Fedel]

And so it goes out with a whimper. Ah, well. At least it's over. I'll always remember you for what you could have been.

[Fedel]

Oi guys.

I know some of you might be upset, but I have a question.

Where do you think Drogon went with Daenarys' body after melting down the throne, and what do you think he did?

He probably went back to Valyria.

[Baltenstein]

My thoughts:

Dany died surprisingly quickly into the episode. Then again, I guess the majority of the final episode has to be focused on the "ever after".

So the series ends with Westeros becoming essentialy the Holy Roman Empire? Interesting. Altough of course, the system of elective monarchy does have its own flaws as they will find out in due time. (Namely, the Game of Thrones will soon re-emerge over who will get the most support among the elector counts.)

I honestly did not expect Edmure and Sweetrobyn to appear for one final #lolEdmureisfail joke.

Why on Earth would there still be a Night's Watch? There is literally no cause they could possibly serve these days. The Wall is gone, the White Walkers are gone, the Wildlings are gud bois now (btw this is the first time I notice that all things associated with the Watch start with a winter-y "W"), what could they do other than boring themselves to death?

An independent North is fine, but why aren't the Iron Islands independent too? Wasn't that one of the conditions of the Yara-Dany alliance? Btw I find it hard to believe that no Ironborn explorer has ever tried to sail to the west of Westeros. Sorry Arya, but the Vikings were in America before Columbus.

The Dothraki seemed remarkably cool about the whole situation, all things considered. You'd think they'd run amok in the Crownlands and beyond after Dany's death.

Why didn't Drogon kill Jon anyway?

If I didn't know any better, I'd say Bran orchestrated the entire events of the series, or at least the last couple of seasons, to end up on the Iron Throne himself.

Btw, all hail King Daario Naharis, now permanent ruler of the Bay of Dragons.

House Stark now basically rules pretty much everything ever in Westeros. Sansa rules the North, Bran rules the entire rest, Jon will probably become ruler of the Free Folk and Arya will soon found the colony of Nuevo Norte in Americos.

JON PET THE DOGGO ALL IS FORGIVEN

[Lunas Legion]

My thoughts:

Dany died surprisingly quickly into the episode. Then again, I guess the majority of the final episode has to be focused on the "ever after".

So the series ends with Westeros becoming essentialy the Holy Roman Empire? Interesting. Altough of course, the system of elective monarchy does have its own flaws as they will find out in due time. (Namely, the Game of Thrones will soon re-emerge over who will get the most support among the elector counts.)

I honestly did not expect Edmure and Sweetrobyn to appear for one final #lolEdmureisfail joke.

Why on Earth would there still be a Night's Watch? There is literally no cause they could possibly serve these days. The Wall is gone, the White Walkers are gone, the Wildlings are gud bois now (btw this is the first time I notice that all things associated with the Watch start with a winter-y "W"), what could they do other than boring themselves to death?

An independent North is fine, but why aren't the Iron Islands independent too? Wasn't that one of the conditions of the Yara-Dany alliance? Btw I find it hard to believe that no Ironborn explorer has ever tried to sail to the west of Westeros. Sorry Arya, but the Vikings were in America before Columbus.

The Dothraki seemed remarkably cool about the whole situation, all things considered. You'd think they'd run amok in the Crownlands and beyond after Dany's death.

Why didn't Drogon kill Jon anyway?

If I didn't know any better, I'd say Bran orchestrated the entire events of the series, or at least the last couple of seasons, to end up on the Iron Throne himself.

Btw, all hail King Daario Naharis, now permanent ruler of the Bay of Dragons.

House Stark now basically rules pretty much everything ever in Westeros. Sansa rules the North, Bran rules the entire rest, Jon will probably become ruler of the Free Folk and Arya will soon found the colony of Nuevo Norte in Americos.

JON PET THE DOGGO ALL IS FORGIVEN

Someone did go west of Westeros in Fire and Blood and is known to have found some small islands. They may or may not have made it to Asshai, since later in the same book someone claims to have seen their ship there.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Poll's up.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So.... that was fine really. Nothing amazing, but i didnt hate it,. kind of satisfied.

I did not think Daenerys would die that quickly into the episode, that was a shock but hey good death. Drogon melting the throne then fucking off with her corpse was dope, was a shame though we didnt get to see Bran warg into him. Anyway Quinn is coming for your motherfucker, see you in a few million years.

Bran becoming King was.... unexpected.. but.. alright then i guess. The Six Kingdoms are gona go nuts when he dies though, "ah yeah sure we will elect a new king haha fuck you i have 30k men bend the knee" Also lol at Sam wanting democracy and everyone just laughing at him. Ah well he is a full fledged maester now and the Song of Ice and Fire book, yeah expected that.

Edmure is back! Ahhh- just a joke... oh... well.

Bronn became lord of the reach, well fucking good for him haha, the look on Podricks face when he was shown as a member of the kingsguard haha. Brienne had a sweet moment with the white book, that was nice.

Arya is gona go off an explore, okay i guess. Jon Snow is gona go back to the wall (lol) but why... why does the nights watch still exist? Like the WW are gone, the wall is fucked, it has a giant ass hole in it by the way and the wildlings seem chill now that they dont face death and reanimation at the hands of darth mauls cousin.

All hail the Queen in the North, not a big monarchy fan in real life but 10/10 would bend the knee instantly.

Yeah it was.... decent, nothing spectacular but... decent.

Thats it over now, until the prequel roles around that is.


ALSO HE PET THE DAMN WOOF WOOF YEAH JON BEST CHARACTER

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Is it weird that after Daenerys went full psycho, I wanted her to be queen more?

[The Huskar Social Union]

lol

Is it weird that after Daenerys went full psycho, I wanted her to be queen more?

Someone has a burnination fetish

[Greater vakolicci haven]

lol

Is it weird that after Daenerys went full psycho, I wanted her to be queen more?

Someone has a burnination fetish

I just think that the best way of ensuring peace in the seven kingdoms is 'if you decide to rise up, I'm looking at you iron islands, big queeny woman is going to come and burn you down.'

[Tarsonis]

lol

Is it weird that after Daenerys went full psycho, I wanted her to be queen more?

Someone has a burnination fetish

shhhhhhhh. Just let her have this

[The Huskar Social Union]

lol

Someone has a burnination fetish

I just think that the best way of ensuring peace in the seven kingdoms is 'if you decide to rise up, I'm looking at you iron islands, big queeny woman is going to come and burn you down.'

Well it is effective ill give you that, and after kings landing i doubt many people would want to fuck with a dragon


Until someone gets close enough to knife her.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I just think that the best way of ensuring peace in the seven kingdoms is 'if you decide to rise up, I'm looking at you iron islands, big queeny woman is going to come and burn you down.'

Well it is effective ill give you that, and after kings landing i doubt many people would want to fuck with a dragon


Until someone gets close enough to knife her.

lol, like she'd let...oh wait

[Bloodshade]

I have a feeling Drogon took Dany to Valyria. That's the most likely destination.

A dead queen for a dead city

Does grey-scale affect dragons by any chance?

[Ethel mermania]

all things considered I thought it ended well

Drogon proved himself the smartest character in the show understanding what caused Dany's fall. The dragons in general where the most intelligent in the show, and should have sat on the iron thrown.

I still think jon is an idiot, he could have tempered dany. zhe loved him and it was that love that enabled him to get close enough to kill her. If he steps up to his responsibility they rule together, but no he abdicated and goes back to his drinking buddy tormund.

The one thing I didnt like was bran's " why do you think i am here" line. He sees the past, not the future, though his seeing the future is foreshadowed with arya.

And Tyrion's walk through the ash could have taken half the time with the same effect.

JON pet Doggo!!, he should have pet drogon to on his way in, but that's my last nitpick

Mrs mermania claims arya said "what is west of Westeros" so time in the show so I guess that sort of fit.

Overall as much as I had problems with the pacing of the show in the final two seasons, as I final episode I gave it 5 stars.

[Andsed]

Oi guys.

I know some of you might be upset, but I have a question.

Where do you think Drogon went with Daenarys' body after melting down the throne, and what do you think he did?

He went to a land called Skyrim and learned the way of the voice from Paarthurnax.

But for my thoughts on the episode I thought it was okay. Bran becoming king felt odd but I think it made sense. I think Jon going to live with free folk felt like a good end for him and most importantly Ghost finally got the petting he deserved totally redeeming Jon for his earlier transgression.

The whole North becoming an independent kingdom under Sansa was pretty awesome as well. Robb´s goal has finally been fulfilled. Also Arya sailing west was kinda odd since she has never really shown an interest in sailing but it works I guess.

All in all I think it felt like a satisfying end though I do have many gripes with it and season 8 in general.

[Baltenstein]

Showing Theresa May how Brexit is done.

[Ifreann]

(Image)

Showing Theresa May how Brexit is done.

Queenindanorf means queenindanorf.

[Baltenstein]

Btw, I think the final episode kinda overdid it with the Leni Riefenstahl thing for Dany. Somebody had posted a meme pic of Dany as Hitler during a rally speech as a joke earlier, and it's exactly what I had to think of during this scene:



They even had the huge-ass sinister banner and everything. Subtle, it was not.

[The Huskar Social Union]

(Image)

Showing Theresa May how Brexit is done.

Queenindanorf means queenindanorf.

DA QUEEN IN DA NORF!

DA QUEEN IN DA NORF!

[Tarsonis]

(Image)

Showing Theresa May how Brexit is done.

TBF Brexit is a lot more complicated than Nexit. For one, they don't have to worry about the ramifications in drawing a hard border across the iron islands.

[Ethel mermania]

And the last of my favorite and probably not yours

http://gothamist.com/2019/05/20/game_of ... gs_end.php

Who knew the night king's day job was fronting a big hair band?

[Nea Videssos]

So, I guess they've gone with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth option? I guess nothing could possibly go wrong. Also doesn't make sense that the Night's Watch is still a thing, and the Wall is pointless now, considering it has a big hole in it that can't be repaired. Meanwhile, it's nice to see Bronn randomly gets the richest and most populous part of Westeros, and obviously all the big noble families in the Reach that have a far better claim on Highgarden (nevermind Willas Tyrell, who apparently doesn't exist now) will totally not just get him killed and take his land within a few years. Anyway, here's some memes/relevant stuff: