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Thoughts on HOTD Episode Ten: "The Black Queen"

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Postby Baltenstein » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:26 pm

Now that the series Martin can finally delay WoW without public pressure.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:28 pm

Glad I stopped watching the TV show, it is a twisyted piece of misandric trash, and an insult to Martin,s works.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:30 pm

Arachkya wrote:Glad I stopped watching the TV show, it is a twisyted piece of misandric trash, and an insult to Martin,s works.


Except he advised on the whole series and wrote a few of the episodes, so sure.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:33 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Glad I stopped watching the TV show, it is a twisyted piece of misandric trash, and an insult to Martin,s works.


Except he advised on the whole series and wrote a few of the episodes, so sure.

Really?

Legit question.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:38 pm

Arachkya wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Except he advised on the whole series and wrote a few of the episodes, so sure.

Really?

Legit question.


Yes he wrote 4 of them

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Postby Andsed » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:41 pm

Arachkya wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Except he advised on the whole series and wrote a few of the episodes, so sure.

Really?

Legit question.

He directed a few of the early episodes and D and D were running off the outline he gave them. But aside from that Martin had little to do with the utter trainwreck that was the final season of GOT.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:42 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Really?

Legit question.


Yes he wrote 4 of them

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comment ... =post_body

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Arachkya wrote:Really?

Legit question.

He directed a few of the early episodes and D and D were running off the outline he gave them. But aside from that Martin had little to do with the utter trainwreck that was the final season of GOT.


I did not know that. :)
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Postby New haven america » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:04 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Glad I stopped watching the TV show, it is a twisyted piece of misandric trash, and an insult to Martin,s works.


Except he advised on the whole series and wrote a few of the episodes, so sure.

He basically stopped working on the show after S4 though...

I'm pretty sure he only kept his producer and advisor role because it was an easy couple mil. a year for doing basically nothing.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:40 pm

Arachkya wrote:Glad I stopped watching the TV show, it is a twisyted piece of misandric trash, and an insult to Martin,s works.


Or you are an insecure man who is intimidated by women having any kind of power. I've seen this opinion before and I don't get it.

By the end of the show a man rules the 6 kingdoms, Daenerys is a genocidal maniac, Cercei an incestuous evil being, Margarey Tyrell burned and missandei decapitated. Wow, such female bias! Women only got into power after the war of the 5 kings, out of necessity and were proven to be just as bad (if not worse) than their male counterparts. Many men are portrayed as amazing characters with few flaws, such as Tywin Lannister, Oberyn Martell, Jon Snow, Podrick Payne etc.

Not to mention that the show closely follows the book up until Season 4.

The only bias the show has is a bias towards the Starks.

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Postby Arachkya » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:12 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Glad I stopped watching the TV show, it is a twisyted piece of misandric trash, and an insult to Martin,s works.


Or you are an insecure man who is intimidated by women having any kind of power. I've seen this opinion before and I don't get it.

By the end of the show a man rules the 6 kingdoms, Daenerys is a genocidal maniac, Cercei an incestuous evil being, Margarey Tyrell burned and missandei decapitated. Wow, such female bias! Women only got into power after the war of the 5 kings, out of necessity and were proven to be just as bad (if not worse) than their male counterparts. Many men are portrayed as amazing characters with few flaws, such as Tywin Lannister, Oberyn Martell, Jon Snow, Podrick Payne etc.

Not to mention that the show closely follows the book up until Season 4.

The only bias the show has is a bias towards the Starks.

You can barely see missandei being decapitated, correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK all gore-ish deaths are men, especially when it comes too children.

Because women get either clean deaths, or of camera/obscured death scenes. :)

And the Starks, yeah, maybe, except for a few. :D
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:17 am

Arachkya wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
Or you are an insecure man who is intimidated by women having any kind of power. I've seen this opinion before and I don't get it.

By the end of the show a man rules the 6 kingdoms, Daenerys is a genocidal maniac, Cercei an incestuous evil being, Margarey Tyrell burned and missandei decapitated. Wow, such female bias! Women only got into power after the war of the 5 kings, out of necessity and were proven to be just as bad (if not worse) than their male counterparts. Many men are portrayed as amazing characters with few flaws, such as Tywin Lannister, Oberyn Martell, Jon Snow, Podrick Payne etc.

Not to mention that the show closely follows the book up until Season 4.

The only bias the show has is a bias towards the Starks.

You can barely see missandei being decapitated, correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK all gore-ish deaths are men, especially when it comes too children.

Because women get either clean deaths, or of camera/obscured death scenes. :)

And the Starks, yeah, maybe, except for a few. :D

The Red Wedding. Both Catelyn and whoever Rob's wife was get brutally murdered on-screen. The latter was pregnant.
Stannis daughter gets burned alive brutally in season 5.
The old medicine woman who killed Drogo was burned alive brutally.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:21 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Arachkya wrote:You can barely see missandei being decapitated, correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK all gore-ish deaths are men, especially when it comes too children.

Because women get either clean deaths, or of camera/obscured death scenes. :)

And the Starks, yeah, maybe, except for a few. :D

The Red Wedding. Both Catelyn and whoever Rob's wife was get brutally murdered on-screen. The latter was pregnant.
Stannis daughter gets burned alive brutally in season 5.
The old medicine woman who killed Drogo was burned alive brutally.

Also the old lady who the Boltons flayed that was helping sansa in season 5, it happens off screen but you see her flayed body on a rack in the courtyard from what i remember.
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Postby Arachkya » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:23 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Arachkya wrote:You can barely see missandei being decapitated, correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK all gore-ish deaths are men, especially when it comes too children.

Because women get either clean deaths, or of camera/obscured death scenes. :)

And the Starks, yeah, maybe, except for a few. :D

The Red Wedding. Both Catelyn and whoever Rob's wife was get brutally murdered on-screen. The latter was pregnant.
Stannis daughter gets burned alive brutally in season 5.
The old medicine woman who killed Drogo was burned alive brutally.

Stannis daughter gets burned alive off camera though, like i said.

And when it comes to kids that have gorish on camera deaths its all boys for some reason.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:31 am

Arachkya wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The Red Wedding. Both Catelyn and whoever Rob's wife was get brutally murdered on-screen. The latter was pregnant.
Stannis daughter gets burned alive brutally in season 5.
The old medicine woman who killed Drogo was burned alive brutally.

Stannis daughter gets burned alive off camera though, like i said.

And when it comes to kids that have gorish on camera deaths its all boys for some reason.

Does it even matter who gets the most brutal and gorish death? You are trying to pull a sexism card where it doesn't belong.
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Postby Arachkya » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:33 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Stannis daughter gets burned alive off camera though, like i said.

And when it comes to kids that have gorish on camera deaths its all boys for some reason.

Does it even matter who gets the most brutal and gorish death? You are trying to pull a sexism card where it doesn't belong.

Am I?, I am just wondering why it is, and I am saying it seems misandric that way, not that it is.

Please to not assume what i mean ok?

But if it is a taboo subject I will take my leave.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:25 am

Arachkya wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The Red Wedding. Both Catelyn and whoever Rob's wife was get brutally murdered on-screen. The latter was pregnant.
Stannis daughter gets burned alive brutally in season 5.
The old medicine woman who killed Drogo was burned alive brutally.

Stannis daughter gets burned alive off camera though, like i said.

And when it comes to kids that have gorish on camera deaths its all boys for some reason.

No she gets burned alive on camera. Complete with horrid screaming.
Of course, they skip the actual barbecue and only show the warm-up but that's because it's hard to burn bodies in real time without further CG or an arrest warrant.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:10 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Stannis daughter gets burned alive off camera though, like i said.

And when it comes to kids that have gorish on camera deaths its all boys for some reason.

No she gets burned alive on camera. Complete with horrid screaming.
Of course, they skip the actual barbecue and only show the warm-up but that's because it's hard to burn bodies in real time without further CG or an arrest warrant.


True artists, make sacrifices for their art, just saying.
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Postby Arachkya » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:44 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Stannis daughter gets burned alive off camera though, like i said.

And when it comes to kids that have gorish on camera deaths its all boys for some reason.

No she gets burned alive on camera. Complete with horrid screaming.
Of course, they skip the actual barbecue and only show the warm-up but that's because it's hard to burn bodies in real time without further CG or an arrest warrant.

Point taken, but you never see a little girl getting hanged, stabbed through the throat/face etc, only boys for some reason.

Though I would not watch that either, especially since its just a cheap way to shock the viewers. :ugeek:
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Ethel mermania wrote:Oh look another george martin book that is not winds of winter

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How involved will he be with the graphical novel though?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:58 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Oh look another george martin book that is not winds of winter

https://books.google.com/books/about/A_ ... escription


How involved will he be with the graphical novel though?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:20 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
How involved will he be with the graphical novel though?

Personally delivers every copy ordered.

If only
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:28 pm

Arachkya wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:No she gets burned alive on camera. Complete with horrid screaming.
Of course, they skip the actual barbecue and only show the warm-up but that's because it's hard to burn bodies in real time without further CG or an arrest warrant.

Point taken, but you never see a little girl getting hanged, stabbed through the throat/face etc, only boys for some reason.

Though I would not watch that either, especially since its just a cheap way to shock the viewers. :ugeek:

No but you do see an adult woman get her throat slit.
It's probably because men are the most involved in combat and political machinations of the two races.
Also, the hooker who gets crossbowed. You don't see the act but you see the result in great detail.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:29 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Point taken, but you never see a little girl getting hanged, stabbed through the throat/face etc, only boys for some reason.

Though I would not watch that either, especially since its just a cheap way to shock the viewers. :ugeek:

No but you do see an adult woman get her throat slit.
It's probably because men are the most involved in combat and political machinations of the two races.
Also, the hooker who gets crossbowed. You don't see the act but you see the result in great detail.


Also there's a bunch of rape.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:31 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:No but you do see an adult woman get her throat slit.
It's probably because men are the most involved in combat and political machinations of the two races.
Also, the hooker who gets crossbowed. You don't see the act but you see the result in great detail.


Also there's a bunch of rape.

Also the whole walk of shame bit. And a young girl being poisoned and dying in her fathers arms(which still annoys me since Oberyn would never approve of that.)
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:32 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:No but you do see an adult woman get her throat slit.
It's probably because men are the most involved in combat and political machinations of the two races.
Also, the hooker who gets crossbowed. You don't see the act but you see the result in great detail.


Also there's a bunch of rape.

Oh God the rape.
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