ASoIAF/Game of Thrones general Discussion Thread

[Hanafuridake]

Robert was a usurper from the rightful but mad king. By right of inheritance, and right of conquest Dany is the one true queen.

Robert was right in rebelling against that murderous lunatic, he believed his wife was kidnapped and all attempts at peace ended when Brandon and Rickard Stark were killed. The Targayrens are invaders and dictators, they don't deserve to rule Westeros or anything else at that matter, the only man who does is Stannis who is the one true king.

If we're stretching the definition of dictator, then all Westerosi kings would be dictators. Aerys II went mad and started burning people but for the most part, the Targaryens were no different from any other dynasty that ever ruled there. Stannis doesn't seem too keen on ending the practice of burning one's enemies alive and him conquering King's Landing would be just as bloody and ruthless as Aegon I's. Probably more so because Aegon didn't have a religious creed centered around burning the infidels.

[Ism]

What about a House of Commons that can begin to put some limitations on the power of the throne, which goes to...maybe...someone nice?

Or we could bang on about people's ancestors. That's good too, I guess.

Meme Time

[Hanafuridake]

i think it was a combination of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions that fucked Valyria up.

I heard it was because they asked Martin when Winds of Winter was going to be released one too many times.

[Ism]

i think it was a combination of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions that fucked Valyria up.

I heard it was because they asked Martin when Winds of Winter was going to be released one too many times.

That'll do it.

[Cerinda]

Robert was right in rebelling against that murderous lunatic, he believed his wife was kidnapped and all attempts at peace ended when Brandon and Rickard Stark were killed. The Targayrens are invaders and dictators, they don't deserve to rule Westeros or anything else at that matter, the only man who does is Stannis who is the one true king.

If we're stretching the definition of dictator, then all Westerosi kings would be dictators. Aerys II went mad and started burning people but for the most part, the Targaryens were no different from any other dynasty that ever ruled there. Stannis doesn't seem too keen on ending the practice of burning one's enemies alive and him conquering King's Landing would be just as bloody and ruthless as Aegon I's. Probably more so because Aegon didn't have a religious creed centered around burning the infidels.

Once again with the burning:

“A sacrifice will prove our faith still burns true, Sire,” Clayton Suggs had told the king. And Godry the Giantslayer said, “The old gods of the north have sent this storm upon us. Only R’hllor can end it. We must give him an unbeliever.”
“Half my army is made up of unbelievers,” Stannis had replied. “I will have no burnings. Pray harder.”

Stannis is less brutal than the other houses in Westeros, especially the Bolton's and Lannister's. Stannis has proven himself to be an excellent military commander and a fair, just leader. He is the only one who has legitimate claim to the throne by birth right and is a good father to Shireen, his claim was backed by Ned Stark and he respects Jon Snow. He is the best choice out of all the claimants in Westeros.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Grimdark authors: I'll write about how difficult it is to be good in a gritty and unjust world, which will ultimately function either as a cautionary tale or as a reminder that people working for what's right can make a difference. Closing the book at the end, the reader will understand how lucky they are to live in our modern world, and how important it is to be constantly vigilant to defend the institutions we have, while working hard to eliminate those injustices that remain.

Grimdark readers: "HEY, GUISE, SO WHO DO YOU THINK HAS THE BEST BIRTHRITE?"

[The Huskar Social Union]

Grimdark authors: I'll write about how difficult it is to be good in a gritty and unjust world, which will ultimately function either as a cautionary tale or as a reminder that people working for what's right can make a difference. Closing the book at the end, the reader will understand how lucky they are to live in our modern world, and how important it is to be constantly vigilant to defend the institutions we have, while working hard to eliminate those injustices that remain.

Grimdark readers: "HEY, GUISE, SO WHO DO YOU THINK HAS THE BEST BIRTHRITE?"

The only person who doesnt get that is IM, and Cerinda has mentioned more than just his birthright.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Grimdark authors: I'll write about how difficult it is to be good in a gritty and unjust world, which will ultimately function either as a cautionary tale or as a reminder that people working for what's right can make a difference. Closing the book at the end, the reader will understand how lucky they are to live in our modern world, and how important it is to be constantly vigilant to defend the institutions we have, while working hard to eliminate those injustices that remain.

Grimdark readers: "HEY, GUISE, SO WHO DO YOU THINK HAS THE BEST BIRTHRITE?"

The only person who doesnt get that is IM, and Cerinda has mentioned more than just his birthright.

I daresay the point of Song is that we're supposed to understand that thinking about a person's birthright (or "right of conquest" for that matter) at all is wrongheaded as hell. You certainly don't get it if you keep putting it forward as your primary argument.

Dany and Stannis' obsessions with their respective birthrights are failings (in Dany's case, one that stands in contrast to a (maybe?) somewhat functional moral compass). Stannis isn't a bad king because he's related to Robert, or because his family has only had the throne for a few years. He's a bad king because he's sodding Javert on speed.

[Ethel mermania]

i think it was a combination of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions that fucked Valyria up.

I heard it was because they asked Martin when Winds of Winter was going to be released one too many times.

+1 interweb for you.

[Ethel mermania]

If we're stretching the definition of dictator, then all Westerosi kings would be dictators. Aerys II went mad and started burning people but for the most part, the Targaryens were no different from any other dynasty that ever ruled there. Stannis doesn't seem too keen on ending the practice of burning one's enemies alive and him conquering King's Landing would be just as bloody and ruthless as Aegon I's. Probably more so because Aegon didn't have a religious creed centered around burning the infidels.

Once again with the burning:

“A sacrifice will prove our faith still burns true, Sire,” Clayton Suggs had told the king. And Godry the Giantslayer said, “The old gods of the north have sent this storm upon us. Only R’hllor can end it. We must give him an unbeliever.”
“Half my army is made up of unbelievers,” Stannis had replied. “I will have no burnings. Pray harder.”

Stannis is less brutal than the other houses in Westeros, especially the Bolton's and Lannister's. Stannis has proven himself to be an excellent military commander and a fair, just leader. He is the only one who has legitimate claim to the throne by birth right and is a good father to Shireen, his claim was backed by Ned Stark and he respects Jon Snow. He is the best choice out of all the claimants in Westeros.

Good dads always burn their children to death.

[Cerinda]

Once again with the burning:



Stannis is less brutal than the other houses in Westeros, especially the Bolton's and Lannister's. Stannis has proven himself to be an excellent military commander and a fair, just leader. He is the only one who has legitimate claim to the throne by birth right and is a good father to Shireen, his claim was backed by Ned Stark and he respects Jon Snow. He is the best choice out of all the claimants in Westeros.

Good dads always burn their children to death.

That never happened in the books, only in the show which ruined his character completely.

[Ethel mermania]

Good dads always burn their children to death.

That never happened in the books, only in the show which ruined his character completely.

Yet, we do not know what will happen in the books. Stannis is still alive, true. But it is known that martin told the showrunners the outline for the whole series and how it is supose to end. in the game of thrones, death is the fate of those who play and lose.

[Fedel]

That never happened in the books, only in the show which ruined his character completely.

Yet, we do not know what will happen in the books. Stannis is still alive, true. But it is known that martin told the showrunners the outline for the whole series and how it is supose to end. in the game of thrones, death is the fate of those who play and lose.

Yeah but we can't judge people by what they COULD do. Only what they've done.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Javert on speed.

And dont you forget his name.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Javert on speed.

And dont you forget his name.

Here's hoping Stannis also does the dance known as "The Russell Crowe Snap."

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

What the hell happened to the show?

[Cerinda]

What the hell happened to the show?

D&D happened.

[The Huskar Social Union]

And dont you forget his name.

Here's hoping Stannis also does the dance known as "The Russell Crowe Snap."

Fucking brutal hahaha

[The Huskar Social Union]

What the hell happened to the show?

Too few episodes and not enough time spent just looking at things after drafting them up.

[Ism]

What the hell happened to the show?

They rushed it, and GRRM took longer than hoped for to write the books. Bad combination.

[Tarsonis]

Duo lingo has a high Valyrian course

[New haven america]

What the hell happened to the show?

1. Lack of source material and GRRM pulling out as an active producer/entity
2. Generally meh-tier writers who got their jobs because of mommy and daddy getting bored with the series and wanting to make their Star Wars movie now

[Infected Mushroom]

I had a dream where Robb Stark came back from the dead and worked with Bronn of the Blackwater to lead a large army of golden armored knights.

Stannis has an army of silver knights. They met and clashed in a field with thousands of knights on both sides in a exaggerated highly stylicized cinematic sequence in the style of 300.

It was cool watching Robb swing his sword in slow motion and sending tons of heads flying...

Then I woke up

[Hanafuridake]

For a couple of days, I've been reading Fire and Blood, which is supposed to be a history of the Targaryen's starting with Aegon's Conquest and ending around the time of Aegon III. I actually really like the book, but understand why a lot of reviewers didn't. It's a dry pseudo-history, and even I have to admit that prose isn't Martin's strongest point. He jokingly referred to it as the Simarillion (the GRRMillion) but I don't think it can really compare in quality to Tolkien's work.

Duo lingo has a high Valyrian course

Yeah, HBO actually brought in a linguist to construct some of the fictional languages for the show.

[Infected Mushroom]

For a couple of days, I've been reading Fire and Blood, which is supposed to be a history of the Targaryen's starting with Aegon's Conquest and ending around the time of Aegon III. I actually really like the book, but understand why a lot of reviewers didn't. It's a dry pseudo-history, and even I have to admit that prose isn't Martin's strongest point. He jokingly referred to it as the Simarillion (the GRRMillion) but I don't think it can really compare in quality to Tolkien's work.

Duo lingo has a high Valyrian course

Yeah, HBO actually brought in a linguist to construct some of the fictional languages for the show.

Tolkien and Quality in the same sentence?