ASoIAF/Game of Thrones general Discussion Thread

[Ism]

Errrr, no. What had been discussed between the two of them was that Tyrion would find a way for the bells to ring in King's Landing, which for the most part he succeeded. Dany decided to throw a wrench at what could've been a bloodless (and flameless) conclusion to the war by burning the city bcoz why not.

I have a feeling Tyrion will die for her mistake anyway bcoz she can just place the blame on others for the "failure" he displayed.

How does that change the fact that he comitted treason right after she had explicitedly told him that he'll die the next time he lets her down.

But as far as they know, he didn't let them down, but delivered her the city with minimal bloodshed. It was Dany who chose to reject the surrender. Not that I think she'll see it that way, being a Mad Queen and all.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Since this show has returned to a very high artistic status (just as I predicted it would); I’m really really looking forward to the finale now

D and D have proven themselves to have quite a bit of style after all

You dont know as much about art as you think you do IM.

[The Huskar Social Union]

How does that change the fact that he comitted treason right after she had explicitedly told him that he'll die the next time he lets her down.

But as far as they know, he didn't let them down, but delivered her the city with minimal bloodshed. It was Dany who chose to reject the surrender. Not that I think she'll see it that way, being a Mad Queen and all.

its gona be a bite sized snack for drogon

[The New California Republic]

Since this show has returned to a very high artistic status

What the hell are you talking about?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Since this show has returned to a very high artistic status

What the hell are you talking about?

Pretentious shite from someone who thinks they know art but they really dont.


Game of Thrones for him flip flops from garbage when he doesnt like what happens to being "hIGh aRT" and is comparable to the moon landing and the renaissance when ever he likes what happens

[Baltenstein]

How does that change the fact that he comitted treason right after she had explicitedly told him that he'll die the next time he lets her down.

But as far as they know, he didn't let them down, but delivered her the city with minimal bloodshed. It was Dany who chose to reject the surrender. Not that I think she'll see it that way, being a Mad Queen and all.

Who's "they"? Anyway, Dany is the one he will have to answer to and the one whose will he disobeyed. Hence, BBQ time.

[Stormwrath]

Errrr, no. What had been discussed between the two of them was that Tyrion would find a way for the bells to ring in King's Landing, which for the most part he succeeded. Dany decided to throw a wrench at what could've been a bloodless (and flameless) conclusion to the war by burning the city bcoz why not.

I have a feeling Tyrion will die for her mistake anyway bcoz she can just place the blame on others for the "failure" he displayed.

How does that change the fact that he comitted treason right after she had explicitedly told him that he'll die the next time he lets her down.

Ah, but Dany didn't say to Tyrion that he should not release Jaime "or else". I'm pretty sure she was aware of the close relationship Tyrion has with his brother, evident when Tyrion tried to intercede for him in Episode 2, so most likely she trusted that Tyrion would use Jaime to bring the city to surrender.

Honestly, Dany executing Tyrion would've made sense when they were losing the war last season. Her executing Tyrion for the "failure to bring a bloodless surrender of King's Landing" is senseless as it is clearly her fault for deciding, "I actually want Cersei and everyone to burn to a crisp" at the last minute. Which is tragic since Tyrion, again, will die for her mistake anyway bcoz Dany will find a way to put this all on him.

[Baltenstein]

How does that change the fact that he comitted treason right after she had explicitedly told him that he'll die the next time he lets her down.

Ah, but Dany didn't say to Tyrion that he should not release Jaime "or else". I'm pretty sure she was aware of the close relationship Tyrion has with his brother, evident when Tyrion tried to intercede for him in Episode 2, so most likely she trusted that Tyrion would use Jaime to bring the city to surrender.

I think "not releasing enemy prisoners without my knowledge" is the sort of thing you can expect your underlings to stick to without having to explicitedly order them. ESPECIALLY when you've just told them that you're done tolerating their fuck-ups.
I didn't see anything in the episode indicating that she was in any way okay with Jaime's release because it would lead to the city's surrender. In fact, Tyrion makes his plea in regards to the bells before even knowing that they have captured Jaime.

[Ethel mermania]

But as far as they know, he didn't let them down, but delivered her the city with minimal bloodshed. It was Dany who chose to reject the surrender. Not that I think she'll see it that way, being a Mad Queen and all.

its gona be a bite sized snack for drogon

A growing boy has got to eat.

Who else you going to put on the iron thrown? Jon? He is an idiot.
A girl has a tough day and everyone crucifies here for it.
#teamdaney.

[Andsed]

its gona be a bite sized snack for drogon

A growing boy has got to eat.

Who else you going to put on the iron thrown? Jon? He is an idiot.
A girl has a tough day and everyone crucifies here for it.
#teamdaney.

Wait having a tough day can excuse murder?! Finally I have an argument for court!

But honestly i hope they destroy the Iron Throne. No one deserves it.

[Infected Mushroom]

A growing boy has got to eat.

Who else you going to put on the iron thrown? Jon? He is an idiot.
A girl has a tough day and everyone crucifies here for it.
#teamdaney.

Wait having a tough day can excuse murder?! Finally I have an argument for court!

But honestly i hope they destroy the Iron Throne. No one deserves it.

I believe all mitigating factors must always at least be considered

This echoes a bit of a callback to my Witch Annie threads where I’ve made this point a few times

[Infected Mushroom]

Since this show has returned to a very high artistic status

What the hell are you talking about?

Shows been hitting some really high notes recently

Promising signs that this show could finish as a true masterpiece

[Ifreann]

Since this show has returned to a very high artistic status

What the hell are you talking about?

IM thinks that there is a high-low scale of art quality, despite repeatedly being told that this is not what "high art" means.

[Tarsonis]

What the hell are you talking about?

IM thinks that there is a high-low scale of art quality, despite repeatedly being told that this is not what "high art" means.

Also their judgment of what constitutes “high art” seems to be pretty off.

[Andsed]

Wait having a tough day can excuse murder?! Finally I have an argument for court!

But honestly i hope they destroy the Iron Throne. No one deserves it.

I believe all mitigating factors must always at least be considered

This echoes a bit of a callback to my Witch Annie threads where I’ve made this point a few times

I’m sorry but no nothing justifies mass murder of innocent men women and children.

[Ifreann]

IM thinks that there is a high-low scale of art quality, despite repeatedly being told that this is not what "high art" means.

Also their judgment of what constitutes “high art” seems to be pretty off.

That too.

[Ethel mermania]

IM thinks that there is a high-low scale of art quality, despite repeatedly being told that this is not what "high art" means.

Also their judgment of what constitutes “high art” seems to be pretty off.

It's not art created when you are high?

[Tarsonis]

Also their judgment of what constitutes “high art” seems to be pretty off.

It's not art created when you are high?

If it was I could forgive a lot more of GoT’s idiosyncrasies

[The Huskar Social Union]

Also their judgment of what constitutes “high art” seems to be pretty off.

It's not art created when you are high?

High art is the opposite of low art. Whilst Low art is art made for the masses, and often has a utility purpose/function and is of lower value compared to high art which is made for more limited audiences with more refined taste and artistic and aesthetic contemplation, is of higher value both financially and culturally and where artists are supposedly at their peak with little to no constraints, allowing them to reach their full potential.

Its basically art for arts sake, its something more than just made for entertainment which would be "low art" and was more challenging to make and was made to be unique etc etc

As far as i am concerned after 4 years in an art university its a load of pretentious bollocks most cases.

[Tarsonis]

It's not art created when you are high?

High art is the opposite of low art. Whilst Low art is art made for the masses, and often has a utility purpose/function and is of lower value compared to high art which is made for more limited audiences with more refined taste and artistic and aesthetic contemplation, is of higher value both financially and culturally and where artists are supposedly at their peak with little to no constraints, allowing them to reach their full potential.

Its basically art for arts sake, its something more than just made for entertainment which would be "low art" and was more challenging to make and was made to be unique etc etc

As far as i am concerned after 4 years in an art university its a load of pretentious bollocks most cases.

The price of everything and the value of nothing.

[Tarsonis]

What the hell are you talking about?

Pretentious shite from someone who thinks they know art but they really dont.


Game of Thrones for him flip flops from garbage when he doesnt like what happens to being "hIGh aRT" and is comparable to the moon landing and the renaissance when ever he likes what happens

Usually what we see from the failed artists, they inevitably become art critics

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

This thread has become very strange indeed.

[Infected Mushroom]

I am so very very happy to be born at just the right point in history to be able to experience this great show as the miracle and masterpiece that it is

And I truly hope that the finale will maintain that standard

It’s been a most excellent ride and I’m glad to be able to see history literally being remade in these 9 or so years

[Ethel mermania]

It's not art created when you are high?

High art is the opposite of low art. Whilst Low art is art made for the masses, and often has a utility purpose/function and is of lower value compared to high art which is made for more limited audiences with more refined taste and artistic and aesthetic contemplation, is of higher value both financially and culturally and where artists are supposedly at their peak with little to no constraints, allowing them to reach their full potential.

Its basically art for arts sake, its something more than just made for entertainment which would be "low art" and was more challenging to make and was made to be unique etc etc

As far as i am concerned after 4 years in an art university its a load of pretentious bollocks most cases.

I agree with your last paragraph. If we are to be serious, I dont believe there is any distinction between the two terms, and the categories itself are. only made by elitists to belittle the expression of others.

As a couple of Broadway actors told me the other day "the arts are for everybody"

As to high and low art, define Andy warhol and the Art factory.

But this is widely off topic. So I will get off my step stool now.

[The New California Republic]

Pretentious shite from someone who thinks they know art but they really dont.


Game of Thrones for him flip flops from garbage when he doesnt like what happens to being "hIGh aRT" and is comparable to the moon landing and the renaissance when ever he likes what happens

Usually what we see from the failed artists, they inevitably become art critics

Low blow Tarsonis.