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What are your feelings towards the Game of Thrones prequel "Blood Moon"?

Very excited/interested for the new series
3
7%
Cautious but optimistic
15
33%
Cautious, not optimistic
11
24%
Not excited/interested for the new series
16
36%
 
Total votes : 45

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 16, 2019 1:50 am

All the civilians in winterfell should have been sent to white harbour or something so they could go to the vale. Hiding them in the crypts was stupid.
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Postby Baltenstein » Thu May 16, 2019 1:58 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:He has acted like an idiot over the last 2 seasons a couple of times, but i still like him


He acted like an idiot in Season 5 as well. His idea was to work out a deal with the Slaver Masters and solve the riddle of the Harpy, when the correct approach would have been to simply burninate them all.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 16, 2019 2:04 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Andsed wrote:So how exactly does the fact the small folk did not revolt against Cersi justify Dany killing thousands of them after they gave up?


Honestly... who cares.

She had the power, she chose to use it to kill a bunch of filthy peasants and now she's the antagonist (because we as a 21st century audience have this notion that using weapons to deliberately target civilians is wrong unless when the USA does it with nukes in WWII).

The mechanics work fine with me.

I'm not sure it has much emotional stakes (considering how EVERY major siege in Westerosi history ended with mass rape and murder) and since we weren't really shown ANYTHING GOOD about the people of KL but if it gets from Point A to Point B so we can end with a Jon vs Danny, then I'm okay with it.

But at no point did I feel sorry for KL at all.



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Postby Baltenstein » Thu May 16, 2019 2:07 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Honestly... who cares.

She had the power, she chose to use it to kill a bunch of filthy peasants and now she's the antagonist (because we as a 21st century audience have this notion that using weapons to deliberately target civilians is wrong unless when the USA does it with nukes in WWII).

The mechanics work fine with me.

I'm not sure it has much emotional stakes (considering how EVERY major siege in Westerosi history ended with mass rape and murder) and since we weren't really shown ANYTHING GOOD about the people of KL but if it gets from Point A to Point B so we can end with a Jon vs Danny, then I'm okay with it.

But at no point did I feel sorry for KL at all.



Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were major military industrial centers. The difference is nukes are indiscriminate while
Dragons don’t have to be.


Also, no nukes have ever been dropped on countries that had already unconditionally surrendered.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu May 16, 2019 2:33 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Honestly... who cares.

She had the power, she chose to use it to kill a bunch of filthy peasants and now she's the antagonist (because we as a 21st century audience have this notion that using weapons to deliberately target civilians is wrong unless when the USA does it with nukes in WWII).

The mechanics work fine with me.

I'm not sure it has much emotional stakes (considering how EVERY major siege in Westerosi history ended with mass rape and murder) and since we weren't really shown ANYTHING GOOD about the people of KL but if it gets from Point A to Point B so we can end with a Jon vs Danny, then I'm okay with it.

But at no point did I feel sorry for KL at all.



Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were major military industrial centers. The difference is nukes are indiscriminate while
Dragons don’t have to be.


I find the whole Hiroshima and Nagasaki’s civilian casualties were merely “collateral” because the target was military (or in some way unintended) extremely insincere

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu May 16, 2019 2:34 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were major military industrial centers. The difference is nukes are indiscriminate while
Dragons don’t have to be.


Also, no nukes have ever been dropped on countries that had already unconditionally surrendered.


I don’t think it really matters

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu May 16, 2019 2:45 am

Baltenstein wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:He has acted like an idiot over the last 2 seasons a couple of times, but i still like him


He acted like an idiot in Season 5 as well. His idea was to work out a deal with the Slaver Masters and solve the riddle of the Harpy, when the correct approach would have been to simply burninate them all.


Surprisingly I’m starting to like Jon this season. Many moments involving him in S8 were unintentionally kind of funny.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu May 16, 2019 2:55 am

is the show going to remember Edmure Tully, Daario, and Bronn in the finale????

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 16, 2019 3:04 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
is the show going to remember Edmure Tully, Daario, and Bronn in the finale????

1. Maybe
2. No
3. Maybe
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu May 16, 2019 3:09 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
is the show going to remember Edmure Tully, Daario, and Bronn in the finale????

1. Maybe
2. No
3. Maybe


if Danny bites the dust, does Daario become permanent emperor of a ton of Essos lands?

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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 16, 2019 4:34 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:1. Maybe
2. No
3. Maybe


if Danny bites the dust, does Daario become permanent emperor of a ton of Essos lands?


Sure
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu May 16, 2019 4:48 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:1. Maybe
2. No
3. Maybe


if Danny bites the dust, does Daario become permanent emperor of a ton of Essos lands?

Michiel Huisman, the actor who played Daario Naharis, was busy filming The Haunting of Hill House during the beginning of season 8's filming. He's probably not going to be making an appearance, but S8 filming did last until June last year, so there's still a chance, but I highly doubt it.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu May 16, 2019 5:29 am

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
if Danny bites the dust, does Daario become permanent emperor of a ton of Essos lands?

Michiel Huisman, the actor who played Daario Naharis, was busy filming The Haunting of Hill House during the beginning of season 8's filming. He's probably not going to be making an appearance, but S8 filming did last until June last year, so there's still a chance, but I highly doubt it.


so there's no way he's going to be showing up to grab the Iron Throne with Unsullied and Essos reinforcements once everyone's completely depleted their remaining Westerosi troops?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 16, 2019 5:38 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
Also, no nukes have ever been dropped on countries that had already unconditionally surrendered.


I don’t think it really matters

Shocking twist as the poster who claims to value honour sees nothing wrong with going back on one's word and killing surrendering non-combatants for no reason.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu May 16, 2019 5:51 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I don’t think it really matters

Shocking twist as the poster who claims to value honour sees nothing wrong with going back on one's word and killing surrendering non-combatants for no reason.


I strongly dislike the inhabitants of KL

if it was another town, I'd consider the argument

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 16, 2019 5:57 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Shocking twist as the poster who claims to value honour sees nothing wrong with going back on one's word and killing surrendering non-combatants for no reason.


I strongly dislike the inhabitants of KL

if it was another town, I'd consider the argument

There's a million people in King's Landing. It's stupid to judge them all based on some people being mean to your waifu.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 16, 2019 6:00 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Shocking twist as the poster who claims to value honour sees nothing wrong with going back on one's word and killing surrendering non-combatants for no reason.


I strongly dislike the inhabitants of KL

if it was another town, I'd consider the argument




So Honor is conditional based on who you like? interesting.
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Postby Andsed » Thu May 16, 2019 6:02 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Shocking twist as the poster who claims to value honour sees nothing wrong with going back on one's word and killing surrendering non-combatants for no reason.


I strongly dislike the inhabitants of KL

if it was another town, I'd consider the argument

That makes no sense. The people of Kings landing are just as innocent as the people of say Winterfell.
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Postby Otira » Thu May 16, 2019 6:12 am

Leaked image of Dany and her supporters next episode:

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Postby Chadacian » Thu May 16, 2019 6:23 am

What about the inconsistent power-scaling of the dragons?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 16, 2019 6:33 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I strongly dislike the inhabitants of KL

if it was another town, I'd consider the argument




So Honor is conditional based on who you like? interesting.

Remember the words of House Tully. "Family. Duty. People I Like. Honour."
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 16, 2019 6:34 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Michiel Huisman, the actor who played Daario Naharis, was busy filming The Haunting of Hill House during the beginning of season 8's filming. He's probably not going to be making an appearance, but S8 filming did last until June last year, so there's still a chance, but I highly doubt it.


so there's no way he's going to be showing up to grab the Iron Throne with Unsullied and Essos reinforcements once everyone's completely depleted their remaining Westerosi troops?

No because that would be completely stupid, out of left field and would be cramming yet another conflict storyline into the last episode.
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Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Shocking twist as the poster who claims to value honour sees nothing wrong with going back on one's word and killing surrendering non-combatants for no reason.


I strongly dislike the inhabitants of KL

if it was another town, I'd consider the argument

Have you ever considered that Kings Landing people, have suffered more then the noble house, given that they have been starved, religiously bullied by the faith militant, dealt with a siege, and used as pawns in the schemes of nobles.

Oh, and burnt.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 16, 2019 6:41 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I strongly dislike the inhabitants of KL

if it was another town, I'd consider the argument

Have you ever considered that Kings Landing people, have suffered more then the noble house, given that they have been starved, religiously bullied by the faith militant, dealt with a siege, and used as pawns in the schemes of nobles.

Oh, and burnt.

Kings Landing gets Sacked by the Lannisters in Roberts Rebellion
City gets assaulted by a Baratheon Army led by King Stannis in the battle of Blackwater bay and a bit of it gets burnt down/fucked up
City is starving to death until the Tyrells show up
City falls prey to rampant zealotry and bullshit with the Sparrows and the power struggle between the Tyrells and Lannisters
Equivalent of the Vatican gets fucking nuked with tens of thousands dying fiery deaths
They all flee into the city because of the targaryen invasion and then the city gets wiped off the face of the earth in the inevitable attack on the city by Daenerys



Think thats everything, yeah they went through a lot of fucking shit
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