ASoIAF/Game of Thrones general Discussion Thread

[Ifreann]

Are you still pushing this really dumb idea that the pepole of Kings landing deserves to die?

On balance they're just a bunch of filthy peasants (in every literal and metaphorical sense of the word).

The Dragon Queen is a piece of work but these people are something else.

Pretty fucked up to think that people who are poor are worse that the woman who was going around murdering people for no reason.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Since this thread is full of experts, I just wanted an answer to a burning question I had.

Why did the Undying Warlocks of the House of the Undying attack Daenaryus after helping her quest? They are the spiritual leaders of the Qartheen religion and oversee both matters in mysticism and faith in the region. For what reason would they attack a guest, especially if this had never happened before? Daenaryus came in unarmed and she wasn't the first to meet the Undying Ones. What caused them to attack her?

[Fedel]

Since this thread is full of experts, I just wanted an answer to a burning question I had.

Why did the Undying Warlocks of the House of the Undying attack Daenaryus after helping her quest? They are the spiritual leaders of the Qartheen religion and oversee both matters in mysticism and faith in the region. For what reason would they attack a guest, especially if this had never happened before? Daenaryus came in unarmed and she wasn't the first to meet the Undying Ones. What caused them to attack her?

The dragons enhanced their magical power and they wanted them for themselves.

[Andsed]

Are you still pushing this really dumb idea that the pepole of Kings landing deserves to die?

On balance they're just a bunch of filthy peasants (in every literal and metaphorical sense of the word).

The Dragon Queen is a piece of work but these people are something else.

¨Peasants¨ who have done nothing wrong but get mad at the nobles for their constant petty squabbles that cause wars that cause them to starve and die for the nobles benefits and be afraid of a foreign army coming in to overthrow their government. Compared to Dany who murders men women and children they come out looking pretty innocent.

[Baltenstein]

Qyburn: Sorry guys, Cleganebowl has been cancelled
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[The New California Republic]

Qyburn: Sorry guys, Cleganebowl has been cancelled
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Anton Lesser was doing a reading on Radio 4 the other day. I didn't realise it was him at first, and I was sat there thinking "I know that voice...", and it eventually clicked.

[Chadacian]

I'm going to be honest, I'm not all that hurt by the burning of King's Landing anyway. Dany is a Targaryen, Fire and Blood. Plus, these are the same people that cheered when Ned Stark was beheaded. It needed to happen. I do not like how they're using this to push the whole Mad Queen angle. I think she just snapped, which is quite explainable considering the losses shes absorbed (no matter how unlikely they seem) over the past few episodes. Another thing, I find Jon incredibly selfish for having a problem with being with Dany romantically. If he's going to claim the Targaryen name, he has to take all of it, including the incest. Which isn't all that bad considering he's already had relations with her prior to his knowledge of his heritage, they're the last of a dying breed, and oh she's attractive. I apologize for the little rant here, but as you cant tell I have quite a few gripes with season 8

[Tarsonis]

I'm going to be honest, I'm not all that hurt by the burning of King's Landing anyway. Dany is a Targaryen, Fire and Blood. Plus, these are the same people that cheered when Ned Stark was beheaded. It needed to happen. I do not like how they're using this to push the whole Mad Queen angle. I think she just snapped, which is quite explainable considering the losses shes absorbed (no matter how unlikely they seem) over the past few episodes. Another thing, I find Jon incredibly selfish for having a problem with being with Dany romantically. If he's going to claim the Targaryen name, he has to take all of it, including the incest. Which isn't all that bad considering he's already had relations with her prior to his knowledge of his heritage, they're the last of a dying breed, and oh she's attractive. I apologize for the little rant here, but as you cant tell I have quite a few gripes with season 8

He may by blood be a Targaryan, but he was raised as a Stark. He's not being selfish, he's living his truth.

[Chadacian]

I'm going to be honest, I'm not all that hurt by the burning of King's Landing anyway. Dany is a Targaryen, Fire and Blood. Plus, these are the same people that cheered when Ned Stark was beheaded. It needed to happen. I do not like how they're using this to push the whole Mad Queen angle. I think she just snapped, which is quite explainable considering the losses shes absorbed (no matter how unlikely they seem) over the past few episodes. Another thing, I find Jon incredibly selfish for having a problem with being with Dany romantically. If he's going to claim the Targaryen name, he has to take all of it, including the incest. Which isn't all that bad considering he's already had relations with her prior to his knowledge of his heritage, they're the last of a dying breed, and oh she's attractive. I apologize for the little rant here, but as you cant tell I have quite a few gripes with season 8

He may by blood be a Targaryan, but he was raised as a Stark. He's not being selfish, he's living his truth.

I think he's aware that the fate of the realm is at stake. That is why I say selfish.

[Andsed]

I'm going to be honest, I'm not all that hurt by the burning of King's Landing anyway. Dany is a Targaryen, Fire and Blood. Plus, these are the same people that cheered when Ned Stark was beheaded. It needed to happen. I do not like how they're using this to push the whole Mad Queen angle. I think she just snapped, which is quite explainable considering the losses shes absorbed (no matter how unlikely they seem) over the past few episodes. Another thing, I find Jon incredibly selfish for having a problem with being with Dany romantically. If he's going to claim the Targaryen name, he has to take all of it, including the incest. Which isn't all that bad considering he's already had relations with her prior to his knowledge of his heritage, they're the last of a dying breed, and oh she's attractive. I apologize for the little rant here, but as you cant tell I have quite a few gripes with season 8

How does the people of Kings Landing cheering during Ned´s (a man who as far as they know tried to usurp the throne and likely start a war) execution make them deserving of being burned alive?

[Baltenstein]

I'm going to be honest, I'm not all that hurt by the burning of King's Landing anyway. Dany is a Targaryen, Fire and Blood. Plus, these are the same people that cheered when Ned Stark was beheaded. It needed to happen. I do not like how they're using this to push the whole Mad Queen angle. I think she just snapped, which is quite explainable considering the losses shes absorbed (no matter how unlikely they seem) over the past few episodes. Another thing, I find Jon incredibly selfish for having a problem with being with Dany romantically. If he's going to claim the Targaryen name, he has to take all of it, including the incest. Which isn't all that bad considering he's already had relations with her prior to his knowledge of his heritage, they're the last of a dying breed, and oh she's attractive. I apologize for the little rant here, but as you cant tell I have quite a few gripes with season 8

If only he had taken one for the team and porked his auntie, half a million civilian casualties could have been avoided. Thanks Jon!

[Tarsonis]

He may by blood be a Targaryan, but he was raised as a Stark. He's not being selfish, he's living his truth.

I think he's aware that the fate of the realm is at stake. That is why I say selfish.

He's moral to a fault. Selfish is the wrong word.

[Chadacian]

I'm going to be honest, I'm not all that hurt by the burning of King's Landing anyway. Dany is a Targaryen, Fire and Blood. Plus, these are the same people that cheered when Ned Stark was beheaded. It needed to happen. I do not like how they're using this to push the whole Mad Queen angle. I think she just snapped, which is quite explainable considering the losses shes absorbed (no matter how unlikely they seem) over the past few episodes. Another thing, I find Jon incredibly selfish for having a problem with being with Dany romantically. If he's going to claim the Targaryen name, he has to take all of it, including the incest. Which isn't all that bad considering he's already had relations with her prior to his knowledge of his heritage, they're the last of a dying breed, and oh she's attractive. I apologize for the little rant here, but as you cant tell I have quite a few gripes with season 8

How does the people of Kings Landing cheering during Ned´s (a man who as far as they know tried to usurp the throne and likely start a war) execution make them deserving of being burned alive?

I'm not talking about what they deserved, rather my own personal feeling on the subject based upon what I know.

[Chadacian]

I'm going to be honest, I'm not all that hurt by the burning of King's Landing anyway. Dany is a Targaryen, Fire and Blood. Plus, these are the same people that cheered when Ned Stark was beheaded. It needed to happen. I do not like how they're using this to push the whole Mad Queen angle. I think she just snapped, which is quite explainable considering the losses shes absorbed (no matter how unlikely they seem) over the past few episodes. Another thing, I find Jon incredibly selfish for having a problem with being with Dany romantically. If he's going to claim the Targaryen name, he has to take all of it, including the incest. Which isn't all that bad considering he's already had relations with her prior to his knowledge of his heritage, they're the last of a dying breed, and oh she's attractive. I apologize for the little rant here, but as you cant tell I have quite a few gripes with season 8

If only he had taken one for the team and porked his auntie, half a million civilian casualties could have been avoided. Thanks Jon!

You say that jokingly lol, but I honestly believe if he would have shown just a little affection. Then things might have turned out differently.

[Des-Bal]

You say that jokingly lol, but I honestly believe if he would have shown just a little affection. Then things might have turned out differently.

All the Stark men have a tragic flaw. Ned's was his refusal to murder children, Robb didn't know how to hit it and quit it, and Jon is uncomfortable with incest.

[Chadacian]

I think he's aware that the fate of the realm is at stake. That is why I say selfish.

He's moral to a fault. Selfish is the wrong word.

Depending on how you look at it I guess

[Tarsonis]

He's moral to a fault. Selfish is the wrong word.

Depending on how you look at it I guess

What if you could cure all the worlds diseases, all you had to do was murder one innocent child?

Some wouldn't hesitate, others would never dare. It's not selfish when moral quandaries are involved.

[Chadacian]

Depending on how you look at it I guess

What if you could cure all the worlds diseases, all you had to do was murder one innocent child?

Some wouldn't hesitate, others would never dare. It's not selfish when moral quandaries are involved.

In this case though it does not involve an innocent child or anyone other than himself.

[Tarsonis]

What if you could cure all the worlds diseases, all you had to do was murder one innocent child?

Some wouldn't hesitate, others would never dare. It's not selfish when moral quandaries are involved.

In this case though it does not involve an innocent child or anyone other than himself.

Sure, but you're a moral issue. You're saying John should have abandoned his moral principles, because it *might* have saved a bunch of people. (John didn't know that Dany was gonna burninate the entire city.) It's not selfish to abide by your moral principles, (unless your moral principles are dumb but that's another issue.)

[Chadacian]

In this case though it does not involve an innocent child or anyone other than himself.

Sure, but you're a moral issue. You're saying John should have abandoned his moral principles, because it *might* have saved a bunch of people. (John didn't know that Dany was gonna burninate the entire city.) It's not selfish to abide by your moral principles, (unless your moral principles are dumb but that's another issue.)

Fair enough, it's a delicate situation for sure. My personal opinion still stands though lol.

[Ifreann]

I'm going to be honest, I'm not all that hurt by the burning of King's Landing anyway. Dany is a Targaryen, Fire and Blood. Plus, these are the same people that cheered when Ned Stark was beheaded. It needed to happen. I do not like how they're using this to push the whole Mad Queen angle. I think she just snapped, which is quite explainable considering the losses shes absorbed (no matter how unlikely they seem) over the past few episodes. Another thing, I find Jon incredibly selfish for having a problem with being with Dany romantically. If he's going to claim the Targaryen name, he has to take all of it, including the incest. Which isn't all that bad considering he's already had relations with her prior to his knowledge of his heritage, they're the last of a dying breed, and oh she's attractive. I apologize for the little rant here, but as you cant tell I have quite a few gripes with season 8

Why do people keep talking about residents of King's Landing cheering when Ned Stark was executed as if that means you can write them all off as bad people?

Like, Ned was beheaded as a traitor who was conspiring to overthrow the rightful king, the son of his best friend. The people in the crowd didn't know anything more about what happened than that. Why shouldn't they have cheered?

And the people of King's Landing also pelted Joffrey with shit and rioted when he called for their heads.

[Ifreann]

Petition to HBO asking them to "fix" Game of Thrones.

[The New California Republic]

Petition to HBO asking them to "fix" Game of Thrones.
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So what exactly do they want to happen? Do they expect the entire episode or two to get retconned? Fucking nonsense.

[Tarsonis]

are the sets even still standing? There’s no way they’re gonna get everyone back for reshoots and what not.

[Des-Bal]

Final shot is Ned, Oberyn, and Syrio giving a thumbs up to the camera. All is forgiven.