Many Bothans Died To Bring You THE STAR WARS THREAD

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Every Encounter Between Kenobi and Grievous

Grievous: Kenobiiiiiiiii-

Kenobi: Why hello there.

KENOBAUUUGH

XD

[Salus Maior]

XD
Droid: sir there's a ship
General Grievous: Scan it
Droid: we're detecting high level of salt aboard
General Grievous: *slams fist* ANAKIN

Droid: Sir there's a ship
General Grievous: scan it
Droid: we're detecting high level of sass
General grievous: *slams Fist* KENOBI

LOL

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

[Alekseandrea]

But they don't do it efficiently!
When you see what the empire does to people, mandatory blood testing seems like something reasonable.
Why don't they test everyone for midichlorians?

Force every citizen of your galactic empire to undergo a midichlorian test.
e.g. Make it a prerequisite to get a passport and say every citizen needs to get one.

Quick, simple, efficient.

Those with high scores are:

• Jedi-->kill them
• weird force cultists-->kill or use them for your own ends
• untrained-->train them for your own ends

And the result is an army of force-sensitives.
Or alternatively loads of dead would-be insurgents if you can't be bothered to train them.



Thus some people know it exists.
Why does nobody abuse that fact?

It wouldn't be that hard to do.

Consider the sort of training these Force-sensistives would undergo. It would be highly dangerous, far more so than that of the Jedi. Naturally, far fewer would survive, the Empire obviously wouldn't care, and thus you have a smaller number of trained Force-sensitive.

You'd still end up with a relatively large amount of them.
You'd find the force-sensitives more efficiently than the jedi did. (Who were thousands strong with a relatively small influx of new members)
Larger influx, more dropouts, better quality.
It all evens out.

And of course, there are only so many people to train them, unlike the Order which had thousands of potential trainers, so they can't just scoop up every Force-sensitive in the galaxy, and it's far more likely most would be killed, with only those with sufficiently high midichlorian counts being taken for training.

Teach them in large groups according to skill level.
Suddenly, you need a lot less teachers.

Those you can't teach, you graciously offer a job in the imperial navy.
Makes them less likely to defect and as added bonus, if you ever want to train them, you'll know where they are.
Or you just kill them.
It's a matter of taste, really.

Add into all this bureaucratic ineptitude and corruption and you end up with oversights and errors to boot.

Sure, but you'll always have oversights, errors and corruption.
If you keep it down to managable levels, they shouldn't be an obstacle.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Consider the sort of training these Force-sensistives would undergo. It would be highly dangerous, far more so than that of the Jedi. Naturally, far fewer would survive, the Empire obviously wouldn't care, and thus you have a smaller number of trained Force-sensitive.

You'd still end up with a relatively large amount of them.
You'd find the force-sensitives more efficiently than the jedi did. (Who were thousands strong with a relatively small influx of new members)
Larger influx, more dropouts, better quality.
It all evens out.

And of course, there are only so many people to train them, unlike the Order which had thousands of potential trainers, so they can't just scoop up every Force-sensitive in the galaxy, and it's far more likely most would be killed, with only those with sufficiently high midichlorian counts being taken for training.

Teach them in large groups according to skill level.
Suddenly, you need a lot less teachers.

Those you can't teach, you graciously offer a job in the imperial navy.
Makes them less likely to defect and as added bonus, if you ever want to train them, you'll know where they are.
Or you just kill them.
It's a matter of taste, really.

Add into all this bureaucratic ineptitude and corruption and you end up with oversights and errors to boot.

Sure, but you'll always have oversights, errors and corruption.
If you keep it down to managable levels, they shouldn't be an obstacle.

Something you don't take into account is that Palpatine has a fear of other force sensitives. The more there are, the more likely Palpatine is to be overthrown. The Inquisitors are the exception and they're tightly controlled. Palpatine doesn't want generations of force sensitives serving all over his government.

[Skylus]

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[The first Galactic Republic]

You know what this thread needs? Random EU facts. Here's an EU factoid.

General Crix Madine is the first film character with speaking lines to die in the EU. He was killed while leading a strike team to a weapon being built by Durga the Hutt.

[The first Galactic Republic]

But they don't do it efficiently!
When you see what the empire does to people, mandatory blood testing seems like something reasonable.
Why don't they test everyone for midichlorians?

Force every citizen of your galactic empire to undergo a midichlorian test.
e.g. Make it a prerequisite to get a passport and say every citizen needs to get one.

Quick, simple, efficient.

Those with high scores are:

• Jedi-->kill them
• weird force cultists-->kill or use them for your own ends
• untrained-->train them for your own ends

And the result is an army of force-sensitives.
Or alternatively loads of dead would-be insurgents if you can't be bothered to train them.



Thus some people know it exists.
Why does nobody abuse that fact?

It wouldn't be that hard to do.

There's no source saying the Empire doesn't do this. There were a lot of Inquisitors and Dark Jedi after all.

Remember though that even the Empire doesn't control every planet. Many people never even see Stormtroopers. That's partially why the Rebellion could survive at all. How could there be a Rebellion if every planet was so tightly controlled that the Empire could run blood tests on everyone?

Another thing. Maybe Vader just doesn't allow any force sensitive children to live.

[Salus Maior]

You know what this thread needs? Random EU facts. Here's an EU factoid.

General Crix Madine is the first film character with speaking lines to die in the EU. He was killed while leading a strike team to a weapon being built by Durga the Hutt.

Who is he in the films?

[The first Galactic Republic]

You know what this thread needs? Random EU facts. Here's an EU factoid.

General Crix Madine is the first film character with speaking lines to die in the EU. He was killed while leading a strike team to a weapon being built by Durga the Hutt.

Who is he in the films?

He's in Episode VI at the Endor briefing. He tells the strike team about the stolen imperial shuttle.

Fun fact, all of Ackbar's lines were also filmed coming from Crix Madine. They originally weren't sure if they wanted to give plot relevant exposition to an animatronic fish so they had the scenes with Crix Madine as back up.

[Ism]

You know what this thread needs? Random EU facts. Here's an EU factoid.

General Crix Madine is the first film character with speaking lines to die in the EU. He was killed while leading a strike team to a weapon being built by Durga the Hutt.

Who is he in the films?

In ROTJ, he was in the meeting do discuss the second Death Star, and spoke on the subject.

Ninja'd

[Havl]

Who is he in the films?

He's in Episode VI at the Endor briefing. He tells the strike team about the stolen imperial shuttle.

Fun fact, all of Ackbar's lines were also filmed coming from Crix Madine. They originally weren't sure if they wanted to give plot relevant exposition to an animatronic fish so they had the scenes with Crix Madine as back up.

I never knew that. Makes a lot of sense. I'd enjoy seeing him say Ackbar's signature line.

[Kulonia]

What if the world of E.T. is canon in Star Wars, since the E.T. aliens are in the Senate. Does that mean Earth is in the galaxy..? Or even a planet of E.T.'s?

[Ism]

What if the world of E.T. is canon in Star Wars, since the E.T. aliens are in the Senate. Does that mean Earth is in the galaxy..? Or even a planet of E.T.'s?

Earth is in a galaxy far far away, and presumably there is at least a planet with the E.T. aliens as an indigenous species.

[The first Galactic Republic]

I am the Senate.

There is another.

[Alekseandrea]

There's no source saying the Empire doesn't do this. There were a lot of Inquisitors and Dark Jedi after all.

There's a handful of inquisitors and dark jedi.
If you look at it optimistically they are with around 100-ish.
Which is too little too consider active finding (with the midichlorian method), gathering and training force-sensitives.
The jedi must have missed more than a mere 100 people and one could easily train them in groups of 30 or more.

Remember though that even the Empire doesn't control every planet. Many people never even see Stormtroopers. That's partially why the Rebellion could survive at all. How could there be a Rebellion if every planet was so tightly controlled that the Empire could run blood tests on everyone?

Well, one could start with the core planets, it shouldn't be much of a problem there.
Since those have the biggest population, you would reach the biggest part of the population.

Further you could add controls in the spaceports that require one to have (e.g. a passport and therefore) a blood test.
It would make the transport of force-sensitives a lot harder.

Combine those two and it would be hard for any force sensitive in the core-worlds to escape your grasp.

Something you don't take into account is that Palpatine has a fear of other force sensitives. The more there are, the more likely Palpatine is to be overthrown. The Inquisitors are the exception and they're tightly controlled. Palpatine doesn't want generations of force sensitives serving all over his government.

Well, then he would have a very good reason to exterminate force-users them like vermin, wouldn't he?
And how would he find them if he wouldn't use midichlorians?

Another thing. Maybe Vader just doesn't allow any force sensitive children to live.

Well, I'm sure all those younglings kicked puppies, didn't eat their vegetables and went door to door asking if you had heard "the truth of the force and how it can help you become a better person!". And then I haven't mentioned the stupid folders yet.

[Zanera]

I am the Senate.

There is another.

>that one uninhabited planet Starkiller blasted anyway

[Kulonia]

What if the world of E.T. is canon in Star Wars, since the E.T. aliens are in the Senate. Does that mean Earth is in the galaxy..? Or even a planet of E.T.'s?

Earth is in a galaxy far far away, and presumably there is at least a planet with the E.T. aliens as an indigenous species.

I wonder if it's possible for E.T. to have been a Jedi.

[Alekseandrea]

Earth is in a galaxy far far away, and presumably there is at least a planet with the E.T. aliens as an indigenous species.

I wonder if it's possible for E.T. to have been a Jedi.

I doubt it.
He had to phone home.
Jedi's can just "force" something.

[Kulonia]

I wonder if it's possible for E.T. to have been a Jedi.

I doubt it.
He had to phone home.
Jedi's can just "force" something.

You're probably right. E.T.'s species don't even wear clothes, lol.

[The first Galactic Republic]

There's no source saying the Empire doesn't do this. There were a lot of Inquisitors and Dark Jedi after all.

There's a handful of inquisitors and dark jedi.
If you look at it optimistically they are with around 100-ish.
Which is too little too consider active finding (with the midichlorian method), gathering and training force-sensitives.
The jedi must have missed more than a mere 100 people and one could easily train them in groups of 30 or more.

Remember though that even the Empire doesn't control every planet. Many people never even see Stormtroopers. That's partially why the Rebellion could survive at all. How could there be a Rebellion if every planet was so tightly controlled that the Empire could run blood tests on everyone?

Well, one could start with the core planets, it shouldn't be much of a problem there.
Since those have the biggest population, you would reach the biggest part of the population.

Further you could add controls in the spaceports that require one to have (e.g. a passport and therefore) a blood test.
It would make the transport of force-sensitives a lot harder.

Combine those two and it would be hard for any force sensitive in the core-worlds to escape your grasp.

Something you don't take into account is that Palpatine has a fear of other force sensitives. The more there are, the more likely Palpatine is to be overthrown. The Inquisitors are the exception and they're tightly controlled. Palpatine doesn't want generations of force sensitives serving all over his government.

Well, then he would have a very good reason to exterminate force-users them like vermin, wouldn't he?
And how would he find them if he wouldn't use midichlorians?

Another thing. Maybe Vader just doesn't allow any force sensitive children to live.

Well, I'm sure all those younglings kicked puppies, didn't eat their vegetables and went door to door asking if you had heard "the truth of the force and how it can help you become a better person!". And then I haven't mentioned the stupid folders yet.

How do you know how many Inquisitors there are? Is it just based on the named ones? Just because we only see a few doesn't mean that there aren't any more.

Probably half the population of Coruscant is unaccounted for. When a planet just has that many people on it the Empire can't keep track of them all. Even in the age of the Empire no one knew how many people lived on a Coruscant exactly, and you think this Empire can run blood tests on all of them? The other core worlds are little different.

Palpatine does exterminate force users like vermin. There's a middle ground between no force sensitives allowed and force sensitives encouraged. Those are the Inquisitors. Most are hunted down though. Also keep in mind that most people can't really use the force without training. So long as there are no force sensitive orders around that Palpatine doesn't approve of most force sensitives just can't threaten Palpatine. He only has to worry about the strongest ones.

[Kulonia]

Could a Toydarian be a force sensitive? Just wondering.

[Ism]

Could a Toydarian be a force sensitive? Just wondering.

I've never heard anything saying they can't be, so probably yes.

[Alekseandrea]

There's a handful of inquisitors and dark jedi.
If you look at it optimistically they are with around 100-ish.
Which is too little too consider active finding (with the midichlorian method), gathering and training force-sensitives.
The jedi must have missed more than a mere 100 people and one could easily train them in groups of 30 or more.



Well, one could start with the core planets, it shouldn't be much of a problem there.
Since those have the biggest population, you would reach the biggest part of the population.

Further you could add controls in the spaceports that require one to have (e.g. a passport and therefore) a blood test.
It would make the transport of force-sensitives a lot harder.

Combine those two and it would be hard for any force sensitive in the core-worlds to escape your grasp.




Well, then he would have a very good reason to exterminate force-users them like vermin, wouldn't he?
And how would he find them if he wouldn't use midichlorians?




Well, I'm sure all those younglings kicked puppies, didn't eat their vegetables and went door to door asking if you had heard "the truth of the force and how it can help you become a better person!". And then I haven't mentioned the stupid folders yet.

How do you know how many Inquisitors there are? Is it just based on the named ones? Just because we only see a few doesn't mean that there aren't any more.

It doesn't mean there are more either.

Probably half the population of Coruscant is unaccounted for. When a planet just has that many people on it the Empire can't keep track of them all. Even in the age of the Empire no one knew how many people lived on a Coruscant exactly, and you think this Empire can run blood tests on all of them? The other core worlds are little different.

I dissagree. Simply make life without having your blood tested hell an you'll even reach the population you can't account for.
Most citizens on the core worlds are law-abiding citizens. I doubt those will become off-grid gutter scum because they have to take a blood test.

Palpatine does exterminate force users like vermin. There's a middle ground between no force sensitives allowed and force sensitives encouraged. Those are the Inquisitors. Most are hunted down though. Also keep in mind that most people can't really use the force without training. So long as there are no force sensitive orders around that Palpatine doesn't approve of most force sensitives just can't threaten Palpatine. He only has to worry about the strongest ones.

Sure, but his approach lets strong force-sensitives, like Bridger, slip through the cracks.
Wouldn't a broader search work better?

[Kulonia]

Could a Toydarian be a force sensitive? Just wondering.

I've never heard anything saying they can't be, so probably yes.

I'll keep this in mind