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[Zeinbrad]

I'm okay with most style of lightsabers...besides the whip. I really don't know that would do well. At least on it's own.

It allows you to attack at a range and allows more flexibility against parrying. However as is noted, wielding a lightwhip has a number of drawbacks and comes with an increased chance of maiming yourself and is not good defensively, it's a very offensive focused weapon. It's the same with all weapons, the lightsabre itself has advantages and disadvantages. It comes down to preference, fighting style, and risk assessment (such as Darth Maul recognising he's usually on his own and fighting back two Jedi is easier with a double bladed lightsabre).

Maybe it takes a lot of training to use well.

Through I only know one person who uses it....Lumnina?

[United States Kingdom]

It allows you to attack at a range and allows more flexibility against parrying. However as is noted, wielding a lightwhip has a number of drawbacks and comes with an increased chance of maiming yourself and is not good defensively, it's a very offensive focused weapon. It's the same with all weapons, the lightsabre itself has advantages and disadvantages. It comes down to preference, fighting style, and risk assessment (such as Darth Maul recognising he's usually on his own and fighting back two Jedi is easier with a double bladed lightsabre).

Maybe it takes a lot of training to use well.

Through I only know one person who uses it....Lumnina?

You mean her?

[Napkiraly]

How is the double bladed lightsabre gimmicky? People have to remember that Jedi and Sith develop their own fighting styles and what feels comfortable with them. For Darth Maul a double bladed lightsabre was adequate for his fighting style, especially if he knew he was going to at some point encounter more than one Jedi, it makes it easier to handle them both at the same time (as can be seen in the film). "Oh but XYZ, chop off your own leg/arm/etc" well yeah you can do that with a regular lightsabre if you haven't trained with it.

The lightsaber wasn't really the best choice for Maul. His mastery of Niman, which opens the way to wielding dual lightsabers, such as double-bladed lightsabers, was impressive, but his hilt was pretty big, which offered him a large disadvantage. The only thing that I can see that saw Maul's lightsaber being an advantage was the fact that it was rare, and not a lot of Jedi had been trained in fighting saberstaff(double bladed lightsaber) opponents. Maul was quite a powerful Sith, but his chosen weapon seemed only to be used for surprise attacks, and it fitted him as the role of Darth Sidious's Sith Assassin, as opposed to actually being a Sith apprentice.

The hilt size is something pointed out in the EU as being a disadvantage. As I said, it will depend on the individual and their fighting style, what they're comfortable with etc.

[Havl]

I've also seen lightsaber nunchucks; doesn't mean I want to see them in the new films, though.

Like someone said earlier, this is very, very early days for this film. But I have a bad feeling about this. I'm reminded of Darth Maul: gimmicky lightsaber, interesting appearance, not much else going on.

How is the double bladed lightsabre gimmicky? People have to remember that Jedi and Sith develop their own fighting styles and what feels comfortable with them. For Darth Maul a double bladed lightsabre was adequate for his fighting style, especially if he knew he was going to at some point encounter more than one Jedi, it makes it easier to handle them both at the same time (as can be seen in the film). "Oh but XYZ, chop off your own leg/arm/etc" well yeah you can do that with a regular lightsabre if you haven't trained with it.

I don't want to see Star Wars continue on the path of every villain having a strange different kind of lightsaber just for the sake of it.

Darth Maul - double-bladed lightsaber
Count Dooku - curved hilt lightsaber
Asajj Ventress - dual curved-hilt lightsaber
The Inquisitor - spinning, double-bladed lightsaber
Unknown Trailer Sith - Claymore lightsaber

It's a trend at this point. The only Sith we've seen with a standard lightsaber since Return of the Jedi is Darth Sidious. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Zeinbrad]

Maybe it takes a lot of training to use well.

Through I only know one person who uses it....Lumnina?

You mean her?

No, she's a sith assassin I think.

[Napkiraly]

It allows you to attack at a range and allows more flexibility against parrying. However as is noted, wielding a lightwhip has a number of drawbacks and comes with an increased chance of maiming yourself and is not good defensively, it's a very offensive focused weapon. It's the same with all weapons, the lightsabre itself has advantages and disadvantages. It comes down to preference, fighting style, and risk assessment (such as Darth Maul recognising he's usually on his own and fighting back two Jedi is easier with a double bladed lightsabre).

Maybe it takes a lot of training to use well.

Through I only know one person who uses it....Lumnina?

Something like a lightwhip would require extensive training to even become competent with. To master it would take even more time and training.

[The Romulan Republic]

I don't mind Maul and Dooku's sabres. The double-bladed one looks cool and the curved hilt looks stylish. And Ventress just combined the two styles. And though not a Force user like the others, Grievous used standard sabres (albeit while using four at once).

For that matter, I even like the new sabre with the hand guard.

[United States Kingdom]

How is the double bladed lightsabre gimmicky? People have to remember that Jedi and Sith develop their own fighting styles and what feels comfortable with them. For Darth Maul a double bladed lightsabre was adequate for his fighting style, especially if he knew he was going to at some point encounter more than one Jedi, it makes it easier to handle them both at the same time (as can be seen in the film). "Oh but XYZ, chop off your own leg/arm/etc" well yeah you can do that with a regular lightsabre if you haven't trained with it.

I don't want to see Star Wars continue on the path of every villain having a strange different kind of lightsaber just for the sake of it.

Darth Maul - double-bladed lightsaber
Count Dooku - curved hilt lightsaber
Asajj Ventress - dual curved-hilt lightsaber
Sith Infiltrator - spinning, double-bladed lightsaber
Unknown Trailer Sith - Claymore lightsaber

It's a trend at this point. The only Sith we've seen with a standard lightsaber since Return of the Jedi is Darth Sidious. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Count Dooku, and Asajj Ventress, had lightsabers that were for their respective styles, as Form II:Makashi users were well known to use specialized weapons which were curve hilted lightsabers. Darth Maul used a double bladed lightsaber, in accordance with him have studied the Sixth Form, Niman, which opens the way to Jar'Kai dual blade fencing, and allows the wielder to become adept at wielding two lightsabers, such as double bladed lightsabers. The Sith Infiltrator may be using Form 4, Ataru, which has a Jar'Kai variant, and like stated before, would be open to allow the user to practice this, and become proficient in using two lightsabers, one in each hand or double bladed lightsabers. According to what I have read, Makashi also seems to have a Jar'Kai variant, so it is safe to assume that all forms seem to have one. The reason why I am okay with Ventress having two lightsabers was because Makashi wasn't good at fighting multiple opponents, and blaster wielders, and Ventress compesated for this by using two lightsabers, although Count Dooku, being one of the best lightsaber duelists of the era, didn't need two compesate for this.

[Napkiraly]

How is the double bladed lightsabre gimmicky? People have to remember that Jedi and Sith develop their own fighting styles and what feels comfortable with them. For Darth Maul a double bladed lightsabre was adequate for his fighting style, especially if he knew he was going to at some point encounter more than one Jedi, it makes it easier to handle them both at the same time (as can be seen in the film). "Oh but XYZ, chop off your own leg/arm/etc" well yeah you can do that with a regular lightsabre if you haven't trained with it.

I don't want to see Star Wars continue on the path of every villain having a strange different kind of lightsaber just for the sake of it.

Darth Maul - double-bladed lightsaber
Count Dooku - curved hilt lightsaber
Asajj Ventress - dual curved-hilt lightsaber
Sith Infiltrator - spinning, double-bladed lightsaber
Unknown Trailer Sith - Claymore lightsaber

It's a trend at this point. The only Sith we've seen with a standard lightsaber since Return of the Jedi is Darth Sidious. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Each lightsabre is unique. Sidious' hilts were of a different look from Vader's, from Luke's etc. It's just the Sith tend to be more obvious and that's to make them stand out more and give them more character, etc. It's nothing new in storytelling.

[Havl]

I don't want to see Star Wars continue on the path of every villain having a strange different kind of lightsaber just for the sake of it.

Darth Maul - double-bladed lightsaber
Count Dooku - curved hilt lightsaber
Asajj Ventress - dual curved-hilt lightsaber
Sith Infiltrator - spinning, double-bladed lightsaber
Unknown Trailer Sith - Claymore lightsaber

It's a trend at this point. The only Sith we've seen with a standard lightsaber since Return of the Jedi is Darth Sidious. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Each lightsabre is unique. Sidious' hilts were of a different look from Vader's, from Luke's etc. It's just the Sith tend to be more obvious and that's to make them stand out more and give them more character, etc. It's nothing new in storytelling.

At this point, it's a cliche, and it annoys me.

New bad guy? Give him a weird new lightsaber! Don't worry, the SW fans will figure out an in-universe explanation.

[Bearon]

You're looking for http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lumiya

[The Huskar Social Union]

You know I'm referring to claymores as in the type of sword right?

Just want to check.

Yeah, I know. But lightsaber =\= sword. So a claymore lightsaber doesn't make sense. Is it going to be a heavy, two-handed sword even though lightsaber blades are basically weightless?

Basically it would allow for more range in battle, as you can see its blade is of a greater length than most other sabers. This will allow the wielder to keep opponents further back from them.

Also ive seen a lot of people saying that the crossguard may not actually be a crossguard, but could be exhaust vents of some kind. Maybe a sign that the crystal of the saber is unstable and very very powerful, and needs to be relieved of excess energy. Which makes sense as you can see the blade appears to have fire coming from it and looks quite unusual.

[Napkiraly]

Yeah, I know. But lightsaber =\= sword. So a claymore lightsaber doesn't make sense. Is it going to be a heavy, two-handed sword even though lightsaber blades are basically weightless?

Basically it would allow for more range in battle, as you can see its blade is of a greater length than most other sabers. This will allow the wielder to keep opponents further back from them.

Also ive seen a lot of people saying that the crossguard may not actually be a crossguard, but could be exhaust vents of some kind. Maybe a sign that the crystal of the saber is unstable and very very powerful, and needs to be relieved of excess energy. Which makes sense as you can see the blade appears to have fire coming from it and looks quite unusual.

That could be a possibility.

[MERIZoC]

Yeah, I know. But lightsaber =\= sword. So a claymore lightsaber doesn't make sense. Is it going to be a heavy, two-handed sword even though lightsaber blades are basically weightless?

Basically it would allow for more range in battle, as you can see its blade is of a greater length than most other sabers. This will allow the wielder to keep opponents further back from them.

Also ive seen a lot of people saying that the crossguard may not actually be a crossguard, but could be exhaust vents of some kind. Maybe a sign that the crystal of the saber is unstable and very very powerful, and needs to be relieved of excess energy. Which makes sense as you can see the blade appears to have fire coming from it and looks quite unusual.

That's actually possible, especially when you take a look at the lightsaber, and see that the blade looks slightly different, like it's got red lightning swirling around it. Still, wouldn't a more unstable lightsaber still be just as bad a choice as having finger-choppers?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Basically it would allow for more range in battle, as you can see its blade is of a greater length than most other sabers. This will allow the wielder to keep opponents further back from them.

Also ive seen a lot of people saying that the crossguard may not actually be a crossguard, but could be exhaust vents of some kind. Maybe a sign that the crystal of the saber is unstable and very very powerful, and needs to be relieved of excess energy. Which makes sense as you can see the blade appears to have fire coming from it and looks quite unusual.

That's actually possible, especially when you take a look at the lightsaber, and see that the blade looks slightly different, like it's got red lightning swirling around it. Still, wouldn't a more unstable lightsaber still be just as bad a choice as having finger-choppers?

Well for all we know it could have been the only crystal available to the user when they were creating their weapon. Or the person wielding it may not be that proficient at making a lightsaber in the first place, which could explain its very ramshackle and hazardous appearance as well as that of the crystal. As in they just kind of cobbled it together from stuff they had.

Or maybe its a very very old saber, maybe a kind of prototype of some sorts or it was made when the process was less refined.

edit: Now that i think about i believe there was a saber you could unlock in the force unleashed that had lightning coming from it. It could be something similar.

[Spoder]

That's actually possible, especially when you take a look at the lightsaber, and see that the blade looks slightly different, like it's got red lightning swirling around it. Still, wouldn't a more unstable lightsaber still be just as bad a choice as having finger-choppers?

Well for all we know it could have been the only crystal available to the user when they were creating their weapon. Or the person wielding it may not be that proficient at making a lightsaber in the first place, which could explain its very ramshackle and hazardous appearance as well as that of the crystal. As in they just kind of cobbled it together from stuff they had.

Or maybe its a very very old saber, maybe a kind of prototype of some sorts or it was made when the process was less refined.

edit: Now that i think about i believe there was a saber you could unlock in the force unleashed that had lightning coming from it. It could be something similar.

Well, thanks to Jude Watson's books we can eliminate this.

I specifically remember in one of the books, Ilum's (planet from which Jedi obtained their crystals from after its discovery) crystals decide for you. It's sort of the like the Harry Potter "he wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter" thing. In fact, it's exactly like it. So it's entirely possible that if the wielder of this lightsaber had a personality and inner spirit and everything that was unstable, and matched the volatile nature of the crystal, the crystal decided he needed it.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Well for all we know it could have been the only crystal available to the user when they were creating their weapon. Or the person wielding it may not be that proficient at making a lightsaber in the first place, which could explain its very ramshackle and hazardous appearance as well as that of the crystal. As in they just kind of cobbled it together from stuff they had.

Or maybe its a very very old saber, maybe a kind of prototype of some sorts or it was made when the process was less refined.

edit: Now that i think about i believe there was a saber you could unlock in the force unleashed that had lightning coming from it. It could be something similar.

Well, thanks to Jude Watson's books we can eliminate this.

I specifically remember in one of the books, Ilum's (planet from which Jedi obtained their crystals from after its discovery) crystals decide for you. It's sort of the like the Harry Potter "he wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter" thing. In fact, it's exactly like it. So it's entirely possible that if the wielder of this lightsaber had a personality and inner spirit and everything that was unstable, and matched the volatile nature of the crystal, the crystal decided he needed it.

Oh now that is very interesting, had no idea about that aspect. Thanks for the info Spoder.

[Spoder]

Well, thanks to Jude Watson's books we can eliminate this.

I specifically remember in one of the books, Ilum's (planet from which Jedi obtained their crystals from after its discovery) crystals decide for you. It's sort of the like the Harry Potter "he wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter" thing. In fact, it's exactly like it. So it's entirely possible that if the wielder of this lightsaber had a personality and inner spirit and everything that was unstable, and matched the volatile nature of the crystal, the crystal decided he needed it.

Oh now that is very interesting, had no idea about that aspect. Thanks for the info Spoder.

Yeah it is interesting.

Apparently, Jedi have hallucinations in these caves because of how much force power stuff (I don't know what to call it) can be felt in there, and then a crystal comes to them in their vision and also some bits and bobs of their future.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Oh now that is very interesting, had no idea about that aspect. Thanks for the info Spoder.

Yeah it is interesting.

Apparently, Jedi have hallucinations in these caves because of how much force power stuff (I don't know what to call it) can be felt in there, and then a crystal comes to them in their vision and also some bits and bobs of their future.

Oh thats cool.

Actually now that i think about it, didnt you have to do something like that in KOTOR 2 when trying to create your saber? I definitely remember something like that in regards to the crystals.

..Or maybe it was in another game.

[Arstotzkas]

The crossguard saber exists in the EU

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber

[Spoder]

So I saw the teaser and now I know why everybody found the lightsaber to be so stupid.


I mean, holy shit. What steaming pile of Rancor shit did that come from?

[MERIZoC]

The crossguard saber exists in the EU

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossgua ... lightsaber

Link is broken, though I can say it's significantly different.

[Havl]

The crossguard saber exists in the EU

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossgua ... lightsaber

Link is broken, though I can say it's significantly different.

Fixed.

Also, here's one that shows the user's Swiss-style lightsaber form.

[Arstotzkas]

Oh well, there are worse lightsabers.

They could have used a lightwhip

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightwhip

[MERIZoC]

Oh well, there are worse lightsabers.

They could have used a lightwhip

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightwhip

Or that abomination carried by the antagonist of Rebels.