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Which is your favorite sentient Star Wars race?

Wookies. Because fur is hot... And murder.
39
8%
Twi'leks. Because slugs are hot.
131
27%
Tusken Raiders. A little rape fantasy never hurt anybody.
33
7%
Jawas. Lots of little hands touching me is hot.
22
4%
Hutts. BIG. NASTY. RUDE. SWEATY. HOT.
13
3%
Ewoks. Because creepy ugly teddy bears are hot.
30
6%
Bothans. I hear they die a lot. And that's hot.
27
5%
Trandoshans. Because lizards are hot.
12
2%
Rodians. Because... I don't know anymore. Reptilian ant-eaters are hot?
13
3%
Other. Because my God there's a lot of alien species in Star Wars. And they're ALL hot.
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35%
 
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Postby Havl » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:56 pm

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Havl wrote:Meh. That's not Star Wars to me.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber

Well it is Star wars, turns out it already existed in the EU before this teaser came a long.

EU isn't very Star Wars to me either, sometimes.

Anyway, do lightsaber blades even slide? Would you even need a crossguard? I haven't seen blades slide in the films. The blade would cut through this crossguard anyway because it isn't flush with the hilt. Seems like a gimmick. Easier to design a new lightsaber than to write a good villain.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:27 pm

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Chinese Regions wrote:I'm disappointed in Star Wars fans complaining that the storm trooper is black.


The problem isn't that a character is black, it's that a Stormtrooper is black.

Pretty sure they're all still supposed to be clones.

The first soldiers of the Empire were the clone troopers of the Republic. They soon recruited regular humans. Luke's best friend, Biggs Darklighter from a deleted scene of A New Hope for example.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:39 pm

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber

Well it is Star wars, turns out it already existed in the EU before this teaser came a long.

EU isn't very Star Wars to me either, sometimes.

Anyway, do lightsaber blades even slide? Would you even need a crossguard? I haven't seen blades slide in the films. The blade would cut through this crossguard anyway because it isn't flush with the hilt. Seems like a gimmick. Easier to design a new lightsaber than to write a good villain.

We know absolutely nothing about the villain or villains so far so you nor i know if they are good or bad.

And also it would be handy in blocking an attack from a blade that misses your primary blade and goes for your hands or arms, it can block it or catch it allowing the user to round on them and counter attack. Also having another look at it it seems as if this lightsaber is basically a laser Claymore.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:12 pm

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Chinese Regions wrote:I'm disappointed in Star Wars fans complaining that the storm trooper is black.


The problem isn't that a character is black, it's that a Stormtrooper is black.

Pretty sure they're all still supposed to be clones.

Used to be, then they became to expensive and the Kamino Rebellion happened (If that's still canon).
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Postby Havl » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:53 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Havl wrote:EU isn't very Star Wars to me either, sometimes.

Anyway, do lightsaber blades even slide? Would you even need a crossguard? I haven't seen blades slide in the films. The blade would cut through this crossguard anyway because it isn't flush with the hilt. Seems like a gimmick. Easier to design a new lightsaber than to write a good villain.

Also having another look at it it seems as if this lightsaber is basically a laser Claymore.

Which is dumb. Lightsabers aren't swords. And they certainly aren't Claymores.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:55 pm

Havl wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Also having another look at it it seems as if this lightsaber is basically a laser Claymore.

Which is dumb. Lightsabers aren't swords. And they certainly aren't Claymores.

Ikr. It seems that they were very lazy in their designing although this is very EARLY in the production, so the benefit of the doubt applies here.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:05 pm

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Also having another look at it it seems as if this lightsaber is basically a laser Claymore.

Which is dumb. Lightsabers aren't swords. And they certainly aren't Claymores.

You know I'm referring to claymores as in the type of sword right?

Just want to check.
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Postby Spoder » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:11 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Havl wrote:Which is dumb. Lightsabers aren't swords. And they certainly aren't Claymores.

You know I'm referring to claymores as in the type of sword right?

Just want to check.

The crossguard does actually resemble a Claymore.

But yeah, it's kind of silly because a lightsaber would just cut off the crossguard bit if it slid down the blade, or hit the crossguard and slid.
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Postby Havl » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:24 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Havl wrote:Which is dumb. Lightsabers aren't swords. And they certainly aren't Claymores.

You know I'm referring to claymores as in the type of sword right?

Just want to check.

Yeah, I know. But lightsaber =\= sword. So a claymore lightsaber doesn't make sense. Is it going to be a heavy, two-handed sword even though lightsaber blades are basically weightless?
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:18 pm

Havl wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:You know I'm referring to claymores as in the type of sword right?

Just want to check.

Yeah, I know. But lightsaber =\= sword. So a claymore lightsaber doesn't make sense. Is it going to be a heavy, two-handed sword even though lightsaber blades are basically weightless?

Claymores aren't heavy either unless you think 5-6 pounds is heavy.

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Postby Bearon » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:18 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Havl wrote:Yeah, I know. But lightsaber =\= sword. So a claymore lightsaber doesn't make sense. Is it going to be a heavy, two-handed sword even though lightsaber blades are basically weightless?

Claymores aren't heavy either unless you think 5-6 pounds is heavy.


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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:39 pm

I think there might be a use for the cross guard after all. You see, when two light sabres meet, two characters tend to draw close together to have a little chat about all the evils that have happened so far. So, when that happend, our villain guy can just engage his cross guard and poke it into someone's face. Sounds like Sith tactics to me.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:42 pm

Spoder wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:You know I'm referring to claymores as in the type of sword right?

Just want to check.

The crossguard does actually resemble a Claymore.

But yeah, it's kind of silly because a lightsaber would just cut off the crossguard bit if it slid down the blade, or hit the crossguard and slid.


A light sabre can cut through the hilt of an enemy's weapon (and the hand of the person wielding it) as it is. This way there's at least a little protection, even if its not perfect.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:42 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Havl wrote:Yeah, I know. But lightsaber =\= sword. So a claymore lightsaber doesn't make sense. Is it going to be a heavy, two-handed sword even though lightsaber blades are basically weightless?

Claymores aren't heavy either unless you think 5-6 pounds is heavy.

Trust Nap, he like swords.

Through I'm guessing, because he told someone that a sword won't be able to thrust through a breastplate.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:49 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Claymores aren't heavy either unless you think 5-6 pounds is heavy.

Trust Nap, he like swords.

Through I'm guessing, because he told someone that a sword won't be able to thrust through a breastplate.

Well generally anyway. Also great way to damage your sword.

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Postby Havl » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:56 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Havl wrote:Yeah, I know. But lightsaber =\= sword. So a claymore lightsaber doesn't make sense. Is it going to be a heavy, two-handed sword even though lightsaber blades are basically weightless?

Claymores aren't heavy either unless you think 5-6 pounds is heavy.

Interesting. I always pictured them as big, hulking things.

Anyway, the Sith lightsaber in the trailer looks gimmicky to me. I can't explain why.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:01 pm

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Napkiraly wrote:Claymores aren't heavy either unless you think 5-6 pounds is heavy.

Interesting. I always pictured them as big, hulking things.

Anyway, the Sith lightsaber in the trailer looks gimmicky to me. I can't explain why.

If a sword is hulky then something has gone very wrong.

The complaint I have with it is that the nozzle for the cross-guards are too big, you could still slide down the side, slice through it, then slice of the persons hand. Design flaw given the considerations of a lightsabre. Apart from that having a cross guard is something I actually like and it has been seen before.

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Postby Havl » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:18 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Havl wrote:Interesting. I always pictured them as big, hulking things.

Anyway, the Sith lightsaber in the trailer looks gimmicky to me. I can't explain why.

If a sword is hulky then something has gone very wrong.

The complaint I have with it is that the nozzle for the cross-guards are too big, you could still slide down the side, slice through it, then slice of the persons hand. Design flaw given the considerations of a lightsabre. Apart from that having a cross guard is something I actually like and it has been seen before.

I've also seen lightsaber nunchucks; doesn't mean I want to see them in the new films, though.

Like someone said earlier, this is very, very early days for this film. But I have a bad feeling about this. I'm reminded of Darth Maul: gimmicky lightsaber, interesting appearance, not much else going on.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:19 pm

Havl wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:If a sword is hulky then something has gone very wrong.

The complaint I have with it is that the nozzle for the cross-guards are too big, you could still slide down the side, slice through it, then slice of the persons hand. Design flaw given the considerations of a lightsabre. Apart from that having a cross guard is something I actually like and it has been seen before.

I've also seen lightsaber nunchucks; doesn't mean I want to see them in the new films, though.

Like someone said earlier, this is very, very early days for this film. But I have a bad feeling about this. I'm reminded of Darth Maul: gimmicky lightsaber, interesting appearance, not much else going on.

Lightsaber whips.

It's not even stupid enough to be awesome, it's just stupid.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:20 pm

Havl wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:If a sword is hulky then something has gone very wrong.

The complaint I have with it is that the nozzle for the cross-guards are too big, you could still slide down the side, slice through it, then slice of the persons hand. Design flaw given the considerations of a lightsabre. Apart from that having a cross guard is something I actually like and it has been seen before.

I've also seen lightsaber nunchucks; doesn't mean I want to see them in the new films, though.

Like someone said earlier, this is very, very early days for this film. But I have a bad feeling about this. I'm reminded of Darth Maul: gimmicky lightsaber, interesting appearance, not much else going on.


Darth Maul is one of the few things about Phantom Menace that didn't suck. Sure, he wasn't deep/complex. But he filled the menacing assassin role pretty well.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:27 pm

Havl wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:If a sword is hulky then something has gone very wrong.

The complaint I have with it is that the nozzle for the cross-guards are too big, you could still slide down the side, slice through it, then slice of the persons hand. Design flaw given the considerations of a lightsabre. Apart from that having a cross guard is something I actually like and it has been seen before.

I've also seen lightsaber nunchucks; doesn't mean I want to see them in the new films, though.

Like someone said earlier, this is very, very early days for this film. But I have a bad feeling about this. I'm reminded of Darth Maul: gimmicky lightsaber, interesting appearance, not much else going on.

How is the double bladed lightsabre gimmicky? People have to remember that Jedi and Sith develop their own fighting styles and what feels comfortable with them. For Darth Maul a double bladed lightsabre was adequate for his fighting style, especially if he knew he was going to at some point encounter more than one Jedi, it makes it easier to handle them both at the same time (as can be seen in the film). "Oh but XYZ, chop off your own leg/arm/etc" well yeah you can do that with a regular lightsabre if you haven't trained with it.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:29 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Havl wrote:I've also seen lightsaber nunchucks; doesn't mean I want to see them in the new films, though.

Like someone said earlier, this is very, very early days for this film. But I have a bad feeling about this. I'm reminded of Darth Maul: gimmicky lightsaber, interesting appearance, not much else going on.

How is the double bladed lightsabre gimmicky? People have to remember that Jedi and Sith develop their own fighting styles and what feels comfortable with them. For Darth Maul a double bladed lightsabre was adequate for his fighting style, especially if he knew he was going to at some point encounter more than one Jedi, it makes it easier to handle them both at the same time (as can be seen in the film). "Oh but XYZ, chop off your own leg/arm/etc" well yeah you can do that with a regular lightsabre if you haven't trained with it.

I'm okay with most style of lightsabers...besides the whip. I really don't know that would do well. At least on it's own.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:31 pm

I'm fond of the single and double-bladed sabers. And while I have mixed feelings about the new sabre with a hand guard, I'm mostly okay with it.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:35 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Havl wrote:I've also seen lightsaber nunchucks; doesn't mean I want to see them in the new films, though.

Like someone said earlier, this is very, very early days for this film. But I have a bad feeling about this. I'm reminded of Darth Maul: gimmicky lightsaber, interesting appearance, not much else going on.

How is the double bladed lightsabre gimmicky? People have to remember that Jedi and Sith develop their own fighting styles and what feels comfortable with them. For Darth Maul a double bladed lightsabre was adequate for his fighting style, especially if he knew he was going to at some point encounter more than one Jedi, it makes it easier to handle them both at the same time (as can be seen in the film). "Oh but XYZ, chop off your own leg/arm/etc" well yeah you can do that with a regular lightsabre if you haven't trained with it.


The lightsaber wasn't really the best choice for Maul. His mastery of Niman, which opens the way to wielding dual lightsabers, such as double-bladed lightsabers, was impressive, but his hilt was pretty big, which offered him a large disadvantage. The only thing that I can see that saw Maul's lightsaber being an advantage was the fact that it was rare, and not a lot of Jedi had been trained in fighting saberstaff(double bladed lightsaber) opponents. Maul was quite a powerful Sith, but his chosen weapon seemed only to be used for surprise attacks, and it fitted him as the role of Darth Sidious's Sith Assassin, as opposed to actually being a Sith apprentice.

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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:36 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:How is the double bladed lightsabre gimmicky? People have to remember that Jedi and Sith develop their own fighting styles and what feels comfortable with them. For Darth Maul a double bladed lightsabre was adequate for his fighting style, especially if he knew he was going to at some point encounter more than one Jedi, it makes it easier to handle them both at the same time (as can be seen in the film). "Oh but XYZ, chop off your own leg/arm/etc" well yeah you can do that with a regular lightsabre if you haven't trained with it.

I'm okay with most style of lightsabers...besides the whip. I really don't know that would do well. At least on it's own.

It allows you to attack at a range and allows more flexibility against parrying. However as is noted, wielding a lightwhip has a number of drawbacks and comes with an increased chance of maiming yourself and is not good defensively, it's a very offensive focused weapon. It's the same with all weapons, the lightsabre itself has advantages and disadvantages. It comes down to preference, fighting style, and risk assessment (such as Darth Maul recognising he's usually on his own and fighting back two Jedi is easier with a double bladed lightsabre).

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