Many Bothans Died To Bring You THE STAR WARS THREAD

[MERIZoC]

Have you ever seen the original clone wars series?

That series was horrible. So was the art.

[MERIZoC]

It won't happen, no way in hell, but I believe they should have just done Heir to the Empire as the next three Star Wars moves

I think I remember reading that Timothy Zahn was going to be giving some input on the new films, so there might be some Thrawn Trilogy influence. I'll try to dig up a source.

[Bearon]

It won't happen, no way in hell, but I believe they should have just done Heir to the Empire as the next three Star Wars moves

I think I remember reading that Timothy Zahn was going to be giving some input on the new films, so there might be some Thrawn Trilogy influence. I'll try to dig up a source.

Nah they're using a completely original script for the new trilogy.

[The Rich Port]

I think I remember reading that Timothy Zahn was going to be giving some input on the new films, so there might be some Thrawn Trilogy influence. I'll try to dig up a source.

Nah they're using a completely original script for the new trilogy.

Nothing's set in stone yet.

If we're lucky, the movie will go tits up in development hell and competent storytellers will grab hold of it and make it for a meager budget and the whole movie will take place in a dirty alien city or a Star Destroyer or something.

[Bearon]

Nah they're using a completely original script for the new trilogy.

Nothing's set in stone yet.

If we're lucky, the movie will go tits up in development hell and competent storytellers will grab hold of it and make it for a meager budget and the whole movie will take place in a dirty alien city or a Star Destroyer or something.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Rich Port]

Nothing's set in stone yet.

If we're lucky, the movie will go tits up in development hell and competent storytellers will grab hold of it and make it for a meager budget and the whole movie will take place in a dirty alien city or a Star Destroyer or something.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! subtitle: do not want

Fix'd.

[Bearon]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! subtitle: do not want

Fix'd.

Honestly I prefer a new trilogy isn't made it just cheapens the series as a whole and shifts Star Wars from iconic to sequel slutt.

Edit: But if they had to make them at least expand the universe like Marvel's doing.

[Arstotzkas]

Yesterday was the anniversary of the HOLIDAY SPECIAL

[The Rich Port]

Yesterday was the anniversary of the HOLIDAY SPECIAL

...

There's honestly not much to say about the Holiday Special except "shiagr"

[The Romulan Republic]

Nah they're using a completely original script for the new trilogy.

Nothing's set in stone yet.

If we're lucky, the movie will go tits up in development hell and competent storytellers will grab hold of it and make it for a meager budget and the whole movie will take place in a dirty alien city or a Star Destroyer or something.

Given that they're already filming it (unless they've finished filming it by now), I doubt its release will be delayed for long. And its funny that you seem to think having a low budget leads to quality and that being somewhere dirty leads to quality. Let me guess: Hollywood bad, grimdark good. How cliche.

[The Rich Port]

Nothing's set in stone yet.

If we're lucky, the movie will go tits up in development hell and competent storytellers will grab hold of it and make it for a meager budget and the whole movie will take place in a dirty alien city or a Star Destroyer or something.

Given that they're already filming it (unless they've finished filming it by now), I doubt its release will be delayed for long. And its funny that you seem to think having a low budget leads to quality and that being somewhere dirty leads to quality. Let me guess: Hollywood bad, grimdark good. How cliche.

Less can often be more.

Look what happened with goddamn George Lucas.

Give the guy computers and all of a sudden all his actors turn into robots.

[The Romulan Republic]

Given that they're already filming it (unless they've finished filming it by now), I doubt its release will be delayed for long. And its funny that you seem to think having a low budget leads to quality and that being somewhere dirty leads to quality. Let me guess: Hollywood bad, grimdark good. How cliche.

Less can often be more.

Look what happened with goddamn George Lucas.

Give the guy computers and all of a sudden all his actors turn into robots.

You can make a good film with or without a lot of money. But more money lets you do things you couldn't do otherwise, so I don't think its a bad thing. However, it is not a substitute for a good script and good actors. Neither is a low budget.

That said, I think George Lucas went overboard with the action in Episode III. You need a director who won't let the spectacle get over the top. Christopher Nolan is pretty good at this and Peter Jackson was good at it for the most part in The Lord of the Rings, though he's lost his touch since then. Joss Whedon can do it too.

As for Abrams, he didn't get really absurd with the action in Star Trek. The main problems there were with the script.

[The Rich Port]

Less can often be more.

Look what happened with goddamn George Lucas.

Give the guy computers and all of a sudden all his actors turn into robots.

You can make a good film with or without a lot of money. But more money lets you do things you couldn't do otherwise, so I don't think its a bad thing. However, it is not a substitute for a good script and good actors. Neither is a low budget.

That said, I think George Lucas went overboard with the action in Episode III. You need a director who won't let the spectacle get over the top. Christopher Nolan is pretty good at this and Peter Jackson was good at it for the most part in The Lord of the Rings, though he's lost his touch since then. Joss Whedon can do it too.

As for Abrams, he didn't get really absurd with the action in Star Trek. The main problems there were with the script.

A big problem with George Lucas is that he's targeting children, and he thinks that means that he has to resort to stereotypes and less grim themes, and that he's forgotten what was fun about Star Wars.

It's the fantasy, the many different alien races, their interactions, the witty banter.

... C'mon, guy. I thought 2 and 3 were FINE. In fact, the action in those movies was my goddamn favorite part because it was fun. It's seeing the characters that we know and love in these situations that make it fun. It's seeing the characters succeed that makes them fun.

[The Romulan Republic]

Less grim is good. Star Wars has violence and death, but it wasn't terribly bleak/cynical initially. In fact, Luke refusing to follow his supposed destiny and kill Vader, refusing to fight, and redeeming the second biggest villain in the galaxy is one of the most idealistic endings in cinema.

[The Rich Port]

Less grim is good. Star Wars has violence and death, but it wasn't terribly bleak/cynical initially. In fact, Luke refusing to follow his supposed destiny and kill Vader, refusing to fight, and redeeming the second biggest villain in the galaxy is one of the most idealistic endings in cinema.

Uh huh... So Episode 3, being perhaps the grimmest of all Star Wars, is bad, then?

And Empire Strikes Back, too, even though it's often rightfully considered the greatest Star Wars movie?

Grim is great. Grim is better. Because then the idealistic reward at the end feels better.

[The Romulan Republic]

Less grim is good. Star Wars has violence and death, but it wasn't terribly bleak/cynical initially. In fact, Luke refusing to follow his supposed destiny and kill Vader, refusing to fight, and redeeming the second biggest villain in the galaxy is one of the most idealistic endings in cinema.

Uh huh... So Episode 3, being perhaps the grimmest of all Star Wars, is bad, then?

And Empire Strikes Back, too, even though it's often rightfully considered the greatest Star Wars movie?

Grim is great. Grim is better. Because then the idealistic reward at the end feels better.

Being grim is fine (to a point) as long as the end is idealistic. But I wouldn't say its inherently better.

However, Empire Strikes Back's grimness is more superficial than something in the story. None of the main characters die, no world is destroyed (unlike the first film) and the heroes never really fall to the Dark Side. Episode III is darker but still ends somewhat optimistically (and knowing how things turn out in Return of the Jedi softens it).

Incidentally, I tentatively rate the films as follows:

1. The Empire Strikes Back.
2. The Return of the Jedi with the caveat that it has the best end in the series.
3. A New Hope.
4. A tie between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.
5. The Phantom Menace.
6. The Clone Wars movie (though some of the episodes of The Clone Wars were much better).

[Bearon]

Am I the only one that liked the Phantom Menace? xD

[The Rich Port]

Am I the only one that liked the Phantom Menace? xD

Believe it or not, I thought it would actually be interesting to see the political machinations of the Star Wars world but... George Lucas sucks.

[Bearon]

Am I the only one that liked the Phantom Menace? xD

Believe it or not, I thought it would actually be interesting to see the political machinations of the Star Wars world but... George Lucas sucks.

I think the hate for that movie was a little too strong. It explored a few different worlds and while the actor for Anakin wasn't great he wasn't terrible ( in my opinion at least ) the only unsalvageable thing was Jar Jar.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Am I the only one that liked the Phantom Menace? xD

There are some parts of it i like, such as the battle between Darth maul and Obi Wan and Qui Gon and the battle between the Droid army and the gungans (The droid deployment and advance on the gungans was fucking awesome looking, as was the mass formations of tanks. Also every gungan that died made it that much better). But there were some parts that annoyed the hell out of me such as Jar Jar and the kid who played Anakin.

So overall eh is alright.

[Saiwania]

I think the hate for that movie was a little too strong. It explored a few different worlds and while the actor for Anakin wasn't great he wasn't terrible, the only unsalvageable thing was Jar Jar.

The actors for Anakin in the prequel movies were probably casted correctly, but without a proper director and script; the people still won't do well. I think the bigger problem was that Anakin just wasn't written well and got turned into a "space Jesus."

[Bearon]

I think the hate for that movie was a little too strong. It explored a few different worlds and while the actor for Anakin wasn't great he wasn't terrible, the only unsalvageable thing was Jar Jar.

The actors for Anakin in the prequel movies were probably casted correctly, but without a proper director and script; the people still won't do well. I think the bigger problem was that Anakin just wasn't written well and got turned into a "space Jesus."

His dialogue made him emo. ;c;

[Havl]

I think the hate for that movie was a little too strong. It explored a few different worlds and while the actor for Anakin wasn't great he wasn't terrible, the only unsalvageable thing was Jar Jar.

The actors for Anakin in the prequel movies were probably casted correctly, but without a proper director and script; the people still won't do well. I think the bigger problem was that Anakin just wasn't written well and got turned into a "space Jesus."

He's not a compelling character (as depicted). In the original trilogy, the little that Kenobi tells Luke about his father is far more interesting and compelling than the whole of what we see in Episodes I-III.

[The Rich Port]

Believe it or not, I thought it would actually be interesting to see the political machinations of the Star Wars world but... George Lucas sucks.

I think the hate for that movie was a little too strong. It explored a few different worlds and while the actor for Anakin wasn't great he wasn't terrible ( in my opinion at least ) the only unsalvageable thing was Jar Jar.

Not to mention they made Darth Maul into a nothing character.

Darth Maul, a Sith so powerful he took on two Jedi and managed to kill one and almost kill the other.

[MERIZoC]

Am I the only one that liked the Phantom Menace? xD

I enjoyed it. I don't even hate Jar-Jar that much.

*ducks*