Computer General Discussion Thread

[Industrial Republics]

Well it's official, Fedora is just a shitty desktop OS. Which isn't surprising.

Now, to try Antergos or openSUSE..

[Gondolaulus]

Well it's official, Fedora is just a shitty desktop OS. Which isn't surprising.

Now, to try Antergos or openSUSE..

If you take Linux seriously, then, well.

[Industrial Republics]

Well it's official, Fedora is just a shitty desktop OS. Which isn't surprising.

Now, to try Antergos or openSUSE..

If you take Linux seriously, then, well.

The hell does that even mean.

[Minoa]

Oh no, not another (WD) Green Drive in an old PC: are these the ones known for being a lot less reliable than the standard Blue ones?

[Salandriagado]

Oh no, not another (WD) Green Drive in an old PC: are these the ones known for being a lot less reliable than the standard Blue ones?

They have that reputation, yes. Not sure how accurate it is.

[Gondolaulus]

If you take Linux seriously, then, well.

The hell does that even mean.

Just use Windows m8

[Minoa]

Isn't there an ability to make differential full-disk backups of Linux computers like what I can do with Windows (Macrium Reflect) and macOS (Time Machine)?

I cannot constantly make full-sized backups because it wastes space on backup disks for no rational reason. Deja-dup seems to be good for small-scale backups, but struggle with backing up everything including the system files.

Full backups are necessary because I am expected to install a lot of extra programs to run the new OpenStreetMap server.

[Gondolaulus]

Isn't there an ability to make differential full-disk backups of Linux computers like what I can do with Windows (Macrium Reflect) and macOS (Time Machine)?

I cannot constantly make full-sized backups because it wastes space on backup disks for no rational reason. Deja-dup seems to be good for small-scale backups, but struggle with backing up everything including the system files.

Full backups are necessary because I am expected to install a lot of extra programs to run the new OpenStreetMap server.

Maybe you can run a virtual machine and run the Linux backup on said virtual machine.

[Industrial Republics]

The hell does that even mean.

Just use Windows m8

Lol, no.

Sorry that Linux runs the majority of Enterprise and top end systems.

- Sent from my Ubuntu system that has been running full steam ahead for years.

[Industrial Republics]

Isn't there an ability to make differential full-disk backups of Linux computers like what I can do with Windows (Macrium Reflect) and macOS (Time Machine)?

I cannot constantly make full-sized backups because it wastes space on backup disks for no rational reason. Deja-dup seems to be good for small-scale backups, but struggle with backing up everything including the system files.

Full backups are necessary because I am expected to install a lot of extra programs to run the new OpenStreetMap server.

Easy wise? I just generally do a clonezilla image of my entire disk, so if anything goes wrong it's a simple one-two and you're back to full running speed.

[Gondolaulus]

Just use Windows m8

Lol, no.

Sorry that Linux runs the majority of Enterprise and top end systems.

- Sent from my Ubuntu system that has been running full steam ahead for years.

Yes but who uses a supercomputer of NASA anyway.

Except NASA.

So are you NASA?

[Industrial Republics]

Lol, no.

Sorry that Linux runs the majority of Enterprise and top end systems.

- Sent from my Ubuntu system that has been running full steam ahead for years.

Yes but who uses a supercomputer of NASA anyway.

Except NASA.

So are you NASA?

Yes.

[Minoa]

Isn't there an ability to make differential full-disk backups of Linux computers like what I can do with Windows (Macrium Reflect) and macOS (Time Machine)?

I cannot constantly make full-sized backups because it wastes space on backup disks for no rational reason. Deja-dup seems to be good for small-scale backups, but struggle with backing up everything including the system files.

Full backups are necessary because I am expected to install a lot of extra programs to run the new OpenStreetMap server.

Easy wise? I just generally do a clonezilla image of my entire disk, so if anything goes wrong it's a simple one-two and you're back to full running speed.

Interesting point, except that once I am at full swing with a physical server, I will probably be needing to do daily backups. I do not think, as far as I know, that Clonezilla does differential backups to save disk space. Portable 4TB external drives that don't require a clumsy power adapter still set us back £120 on Amazon or £129 on Maplin.

[Minoa]

Yes but who uses a supercomputer of NASA anyway.

Except NASA.

So are you NASA?

For this reply, everyone who uses modern technology has in one way or another the capabilities that only NASA could afford. In 2000, terabyte drives did not exist in the consumer market: that only came sometime in 2007 with HGST’s offering.

[Industrial Republics]

Easy wise? I just generally do a clonezilla image of my entire disk, so if anything goes wrong it's a simple one-two and you're back to full running speed.

Interesting point, except that once I am at full swing with a physical server, I will probably be needing to do daily backups. I do not think, as far as I know, that Clonezilla does differential backups to save disk space. Portable 4TB external drives that don't require a clumsy power adapter still set us back £120 on Amazon or £129 on Maplin.

Ah I gotcha, then why not use rsync over deja-dup?

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       rsync is a program that behaves in much the same way that rcp does, but
       has many more options and uses  the  rsync  remote-update  protocol  to
       greatly  speed  up  file  transfers  when the destination file is being
       updated.

       The rsync remote-update protocol allows rsync to transfer just the dif-
       ferences between two sets of files across the network connection, using
       an efficient  checksum-search  algorithm  described  in  the  technical
       report that accompanies this package.

       Some of the additional features of rsync are:


       o      support  for copying links, devices, owners, groups, and permis-
              sions

       o      exclude and exclude-from options similar to GNU tar

       o      a CVS exclude mode for ignoring the same files  that  CVS  would
              ignore

       o      can use any transparent remote shell, including ssh or rsh

       o      does not require root privileges

       o      pipelining of file transfers to minimize latency costs

       o      support  for anonymous or authenticated rsync servers (ideal for
              mirroring)

[Minoa]

Interesting point, except that once I am at full swing with a physical server, I will probably be needing to do daily backups. I do not think, as far as I know, that Clonezilla does differential backups to save disk space. Portable 4TB external drives that don't require a clumsy power adapter still set us back £120 on Amazon or £129 on Maplin.

Ah I gotcha, then why not use rsync over deja-dup?

Code: Select all

       rsync is a program that behaves in much the same way that rcp does, but
       has many more options and uses  the  rsync  remote-update  protocol  to
       greatly  speed  up  file  transfers  when the destination file is being
       updated.

       The rsync remote-update protocol allows rsync to transfer just the dif-
       ferences between two sets of files across the network connection, using
       an efficient  checksum-search  algorithm  described  in  the  technical
       report that accompanies this package.

       Some of the additional features of rsync are:


       o      support  for copying links, devices, owners, groups, and permis-
              sions

       o      exclude and exclude-from options similar to GNU tar

       o      a CVS exclude mode for ignoring the same files  that  CVS  would
              ignore

       o      can use any transparent remote shell, including ssh or rsh

       o      does not require root privileges

       o      pipelining of file transfers to minimize latency costs

       o      support  for anonymous or authenticated rsync servers (ideal for
              mirroring)

Hi, for now, VMware Workstation and its easy-to-use on-demand snapshot system it will be, although the bridge networking isn't working due to the firewall. I originally bought VMware Workstation for real, because I have been maintaining a heritage collection of old operating systems (if it actually works for you and it can survive without the Internet, then buy it or look for an alternative).

Obviously, I'm not letting all programs communicate with the Internet by default, but I am getting too stressed to work out which program or process within Vmware I need to allow through the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security, so that the bridged networking works, and that my computers can access the virtual server on the local network. I already allowed the main vmware.exe and vmnat.exe (for NAT) process through, but bridged networking still doesn't work.

I’m not going for a third party firewall yet, since it is superfluous and thus not worth the money. I just wished Little Snitch would create a Windows version.

[Industrial Republics]

Ah I gotcha, then why not use rsync over deja-dup?

Code: Select all

       rsync is a program that behaves in much the same way that rcp does, but
       has many more options and uses  the  rsync  remote-update  protocol  to
       greatly  speed  up  file  transfers  when the destination file is being
       updated.

       The rsync remote-update protocol allows rsync to transfer just the dif-
       ferences between two sets of files across the network connection, using
       an efficient  checksum-search  algorithm  described  in  the  technical
       report that accompanies this package.

       Some of the additional features of rsync are:


       o      support  for copying links, devices, owners, groups, and permis-
              sions

       o      exclude and exclude-from options similar to GNU tar

       o      a CVS exclude mode for ignoring the same files  that  CVS  would
              ignore

       o      can use any transparent remote shell, including ssh or rsh

       o      does not require root privileges

       o      pipelining of file transfers to minimize latency costs

       o      support  for anonymous or authenticated rsync servers (ideal for
              mirroring)

Hi, for now, VMware Workstation and its easy-to-use on-demand snapshot system it will be, although the bridge networking isn't working due to the firewall. I originally bought VMware Workstation for real, because I have been maintaining a heritage collection of old operating systems (if it actually works for you and it can survive without the Internet, then buy it or look for an alternative).

Obviously, I'm not letting all programs communicate with the Internet by default, but I am getting too stressed to work out which program or process within Vmware I need to allow through the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security, so that the bridged networking works, and that my computers can access the virtual server on the local network. I already allowed the main vmware.exe and vmnat.exe (for NAT) process through, but bridged networking still doesn't work.

I’m not going for a third party firewall yet, since it is superfluous and thus not worth the money. I just wished Little Snitch would create a Windows version.

Sounds overtly complicated.

[Nordengrund]

So my computer is taking forever to start up. It's pretty important because half of my classes are online.

It says it is loading Windows and getting everything ready but takes over 10 minutes. The only thing I can think of causing this is that I bought and installed a Steam game.

My computer is a 64 HP Notebook with Windows 7 (I think)

[Salandriagado]

So my computer is taking forever to start up. It's pretty important because half of my classes are online.

It says it is loading Windows and getting everything ready but takes over 10 minutes. The only thing I can think of causing this is that I bought and installed a Steam game.

My computer is a 64 HP Notebook with Windows 7 (I think)

Wipe and reinstall is probably the easiest fix.

[Nordengrund]

So my computer is taking forever to start up. It's pretty important because half of my classes are online.

It says it is loading Windows and getting everything ready but takes over 10 minutes. The only thing I can think of causing this is that I bought and installed a Steam game.

My computer is a 64 HP Notebook with Windows 7 (I think)

Wipe and reinstall is probably the easiest fix.

How do I do that? I don't want to have to reinstall everything. I also forgot my steam account password and that was before I had an email address, so I hope I don't have to login all over again.

It does take me to the main screen, but the background is black and I can't access any of the features, and some icons haven't loaded.

Actually I can use Mozilla, but the start menu won't pop up or anything like that

[Industrial Republics]

Wipe and reinstall is probably the easiest fix.

How do I do that? I don't want to have to reinstall everything. I also forgot my steam account password and that was before I had an email address, so I hope I don't have to login all over again.

It does take me to the main screen, but the background is black and I can't access any of the features, and some icons haven't loaded.

Actually I can use Mozilla, but the start menu won't pop up or anything like that

Key things is to make sure you don't have any viruses.

Put computer into safe mode with networking, downloading malwarebytesand Microsoft security essentials and run scans. Let them complete and see if they find anything.

[Nordengrund]

How do I do that? I don't want to have to reinstall everything. I also forgot my steam account password and that was before I had an email address, so I hope I don't have to login all over again.

It does take me to the main screen, but the background is black and I can't access any of the features, and some icons haven't loaded.

Actually I can use Mozilla, but the start menu won't pop up or anything like that

Key things is to make sure you don't have any viruses.

K. Is Malwarebytes free?

Put computer into safe mode with networking, downloading malwarebytesand Microsoft security essentials and run scans. Let them complete and see if they find anything.

[Industrial Republics]

Key things is to make sure you don't have any viruses.

K. Is Malwarebytes free?

Put computer into safe mode with networking, downloading malwarebytesand Microsoft security essentials and run scans. Let them complete and see if they find anything.

Malwarebytes has a free edition and security essentials is from Microsoft so it is free for use on your machine.

[Nordengrund]

Malwarebytes has a free edition and security essentials is from Microsoft so it is free for use on your machine.

Thanks. Idk if I have malware because I only use the laptop for homework and steam games.

[Industrial Republics]

Malwarebytes has a free edition and security essentials is from Microsoft so it is free for use on your machine.

Thanks. Idk if I have malware because I only use the laptop for homework and steam games.

Course you can, only takes one bad download, one bad click, a whole lotta luck, and then you're infected.

Nah you're probably not but it's a precautionary thing, I'm sure you have some little things that'll be flagged and removed.

Reinstalling the system would mean you would need to do EVERYTHING from scratch, including logging into everything like steam.

I'd figure out your steam login btw, otherwise you're going to be screwed if your HDD ever takes a crap.