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Which OS do YOU use?

Windows
628
75%
Linux/Unix
121
14%
Mac
70
8%
OS/2
5
1%
DOS
7
1%
Phantom OS
4
0%
Croquet
5
1%
 
Total votes : 840

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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:27 pm

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Valentine Z wrote:A few days back, for a personal project on NS' Got Issues?, I have transitioned from using Excel, to Python. The... the amount of freedom I got is staggering, and it's also blazing fast!

What project would be doable in both Excel in Python that wouldn't be better served by R? :blink:

I'm ashamed to admit that I simply don't know R... at least not now. I might be learning it alongside C++.

Most of the school and everything I am doing right now is on The Great Ol' Python.

Shameless plug on what I'm doing. Python graphs only came in recently with the last post of mine.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:32 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:What project would be doable in both Excel in Python that wouldn't be better served by R? :blink:

I'm ashamed to admit that I simply don't know R... at least not now. I might be learning it alongside C++.

Most of the school and everything I am doing right now is on The Great Ol' Python.

Shameless plug on what I'm doing. Python graphs only came in recently with the last post of mine.

Oh yeah, R would be way easier for that. It's not too hard to get into if you understand the syntax of other programming languages (speaking as someone who's fairly new to it), which it seems you do.
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:33 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I'm ashamed to admit that I simply don't know R... at least not now. I might be learning it alongside C++.

Most of the school and everything I am doing right now is on The Great Ol' Python.

Shameless plug on what I'm doing. Python graphs only came in recently with the last post of mine.

Oh yeah, R would be way easier for that. It's not too hard to get into if you understand the syntax of other programming languages (speaking as someone who's fairly new to it), which it seems you do.

I will give that a try one day, thanks for the advice. ^^ Current focus is on Python and me being busy with school stuff, but if I can be here, then I have free time to learn a new lang. :P
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:41 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Oh yeah, R would be way easier for that. It's not too hard to get into if you understand the syntax of other programming languages (speaking as someone who's fairly new to it), which it seems you do.

I will give that a try one day, thanks for the advice. ^^ Current focus is on Python and me being busy with school stuff, but if I can be here, then I have free time to learn a new lang. :P

I fully understand. I recommend RStudio as an IDE for R, by the way.
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Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:46 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I will give that a try one day, thanks for the advice. ^^ Current focus is on Python and me being busy with school stuff, but if I can be here, then I have free time to learn a new lang. :P

I fully understand. I recommend RStudio as an IDE for R, by the way.

Awesome, I will check that out. :D
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:18 am

Looking for a lightweight email client to put on my P4 box with Slackware (preferably GTK+, as I don't want to install a bunch of unnecessary Qt stuff). Sylpheed is having issues getting my Gmail account synced, unfortunately. Suggestions?
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Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
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right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

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Postby Cisairse » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:24 pm

Cekoviu wrote:Looking for a lightweight email client to put on my P4 box with Slackware (preferably GTK+, as I don't want to install a bunch of unnecessary Qt stuff). Sylpheed is having issues getting my Gmail account synced, unfortunately. Suggestions?


If Thunderbird is too heavy for you but you want something graphical (ie not mutt or alpine), you basically don't have any options that support webmail out of the box.

The problem is modern email requires a web browser engine to render, so "lightweight" basically means "doesn't actually work" anymore. I mean you could try gnus, but that's probably not what you're looking for.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:04 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Looking for a lightweight email client to put on my P4 box with Slackware (preferably GTK+, as I don't want to install a bunch of unnecessary Qt stuff). Sylpheed is having issues getting my Gmail account synced, unfortunately. Suggestions?


If Thunderbird is too heavy for you but you want something graphical (ie not mutt or alpine), you basically don't have any options that support webmail out of the box.

I guess I could try mutt. The other option, which I'm currently using, is the "basic HTML" Gmail web client, but I have multiple email addresses and I'm not particularly enthused with wasting my extremely limited system resources on a browser tab for each.
The problem is modern email requires a web browser engine to render, so "lightweight" basically means "doesn't actually work" anymore. I mean you could try gnus, but that's probably not what you're looking for.

Yeah, I don't really care for Emacs (nor Vim). That is quite unfortunate. When did the web get so bloated?
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Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
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Postby Immoren » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:41 pm

I thought graphics cards cooler fans had dying bearings because it made weird noise and it didn't spin easily when I tried manually spin it. Bought replacement without checking more closely
Turns out it looks like one of the SATA cables had come loose and was scratching against it.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:58 am

Another shockingly bad update for Windows 10 from Microsoft. Not even polishing the turd, they are making it shittier.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:49 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Another shockingly bad update for Windows 10 from Microsoft. Not even polishing the turd, they are making it shittier.

What did they do this time? I've been off Windows for a number of months.
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Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
Liriena wrote:anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:36 am

Cekoviu wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Another shockingly bad update for Windows 10 from Microsoft. Not even polishing the turd, they are making it shittier.

What did they do this time? I've been off Windows for a number of months.


They seem to have fucked up wireless adaptors, amongst other things. Oh and wiping some people's files.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:43 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:What did they do this time? I've been off Windows for a number of months.


They seem to have fucked up wireless adaptors, amongst other things. Oh and wiping some people's files.

Lovely. Glad I've switched to an actually stable system.
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:28 pm

I'm putting a build together, does this look like a good list: https://www.amazon.co.uk/hz/wishlist/ls ... _=wl_share
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:40 pm

Crysuko wrote:I'm putting a build together, does this look like a good list: https://www.amazon.co.uk/hz/wishlist/ls ... _=wl_share

The TX#M series is very good (not sure about 650 specifically, but 750 and 850 have been well reviewed), but you might be able to get a better deal on a SeaSonic 650W. Maybe not at Gold level efficiency, but definitely 80+, and the sheer reliability of SeaSonic is unparalleled.
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Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
Liriena wrote:anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

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Postby Minoa » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:11 am

This one: https://www.howtogeek.com/658194/window ... les-again/

I have been thinking of giving up computing entirely, and considering a return to the traditional arts. I feel like I face a choice between an OS, whose latest version nags me to use a cloud service, an OS that neglects on privacy and pushes out broken updates, another OS that neglects on privacy, and an OS where I cannot run apps that I have been used to for years.

Or maybe I should just fade away before it drives me further down the rabbit hole of despair… there is always next time, and while nothing is perfect, it may be better than now.
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:11 pm

Minoa wrote:This one: https://www.howtogeek.com/658194/window ... les-again/

I have been thinking of giving up computing entirely, and considering a return to the traditional arts. I feel like I face a choice between an OS, whose latest version nags me to use a cloud service, an OS that neglects on privacy and pushes out broken updates, another OS that neglects on privacy, and an OS where I cannot run apps that I have been used to for years.

Or maybe I should just fade away before it drives me further down the rabbit hole of despair… there is always next time, and while nothing is perfect, it may be better than now.


There's virtually nothing you can't run on Linux these days, and it's trivially easy to set up a Windows Server VM for the one or two applications you've ever used that don't run on Linux.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:21 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Minoa wrote:This one: https://www.howtogeek.com/658194/window ... les-again/

I have been thinking of giving up computing entirely, and considering a return to the traditional arts. I feel like I face a choice between an OS, whose latest version nags me to use a cloud service, an OS that neglects on privacy and pushes out broken updates, another OS that neglects on privacy, and an OS where I cannot run apps that I have been used to for years.

Or maybe I should just fade away before it drives me further down the rabbit hole of despair… there is always next time, and while nothing is perfect, it may be better than now.


There's virtually nothing you can't run on Linux these days, and it's trivially easy to set up a Windows Server VM for the one or two applications you've ever used that don't run on Linux.

Minoa's big issue is 3DS Max IIRC. Which doesn't run on Linux because Autodesk are assholes.
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Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:31 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
There's virtually nothing you can't run on Linux these days, and it's trivially easy to set up a Windows Server VM for the one or two applications you've ever used that don't run on Linux.

Minoa's big issue is 3DS Max IIRC. Which doesn't run on Linux because Autodesk are assholes.


That seems like a good use of the VM to me.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:36 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Minoa's big issue is 3DS Max IIRC. Which doesn't run on Linux because Autodesk are assholes.


That seems like a good use of the VM to me.

Does 3DS Max work in Windows Server?
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Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:40 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
That seems like a good use of the VM to me.

Does 3DS Max work in Windows Server?


If it runs on Windows 10, it runs on Windows Server 2019, and you have the added benefit of no adware pre-installed, no forced reboots, and a much slower release cycle coupled with very little of the bloatware that Windows 10 comes with.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:59 pm

Because of the demise of Windows 7, it looks like we will be seeing the glorious return of the PC to some extent.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-pc-wa ... -happened/
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Postby Minoa » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:Because of the demise of Windows 7, it looks like we will be seeing the glorious return of the PC to some extent.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-pc-wa ... -happened/
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/annua ... 2020-01-13

The desktop computer can never die. It is the option of choice for video gamers and people like me who doubt that the full size ATX case is mandatory for performance. Most people do fine with one RTX 2080. For me, the RTX 2080 Ti and Super is a bit of an overkill.
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Postby Valentine Z » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:56 am

I did this the other day. Turns out to be USD 10,000.

Don't worry, it's not one of those things where every parts is a must. Basically, I went to those pick-a-parts websites based in Singapore, and I picked the most expensive options and added every single add-on.

4 SSDs (11 TB total), 64 GB RAM, Office 365, Gaming Chair, Gaming KB and Mouse, Water Cooling,... every single expensive thing!
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Postby Minoa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:55 pm

Even without the hysteria over the coronavirus, SSDs are still pricier than traditional HDDs, which is why most gaming machines tend to use both, with the SSD managing the system volumes, and the HDDs for the rest.
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