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Postby The Alexanderians » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:02 am

Seraven wrote:Any recommendations on good adblock application? And what is the usefulness of an adblock application?

uBlock and AdNauseum, Google has been doing a good job of countering AdBlock or at the very least targeting its users. Like the AdBlock mobile browser doesn't work with google services anymore. I blame its popularity but I havent noticed big problems with the others (assuming you can install them).
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Postby Minoa » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:58 am

Source: http://uk.pcmag.com/nvidia-shield-tv/91 ... ebrity-pho

I think this seems to be a small proof-of-concept step towards creating the Swiss Army Knife for creating roleplay characters without ripping photos off the Wikimedia Commons or something – but it is missing one important thing that Nvidia is widely known for: 3D rendering.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:56 pm

Minoa wrote:Source: http://uk.pcmag.com/nvidia-shield-tv/91 ... ebrity-pho

I think this seems to be a small proof-of-concept step towards creating the Swiss Army Knife for creating roleplay characters without ripping photos off the Wikimedia Commons or something – but it is missing one important thing that Nvidia is widely known for: 3D rendering.

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Postby Minoa » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:35 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Minoa wrote:Source: http://uk.pcmag.com/nvidia-shield-tv/91 ... ebrity-pho

I think this seems to be a small proof-of-concept step towards creating the Swiss Army Knife for creating roleplay characters without ripping photos off the Wikimedia Commons or something – but it is missing one important thing that Nvidia is widely known for: 3D rendering.

"AI"

It can't be AI without 3D in my opinion (otherwise people will just be talking to a faceless device). :p
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Postby Seraven » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:09 pm

So I just need to google Adblock/AdNaseum/uBlock and look for their official sites then download it from their site and installs it normally, or there is an unique way for that?

Also for reference, I mainly use Microsoft's Internet Explorer on Windows 10.
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Postby Minoa » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:09 pm

Seraven wrote:So I just need to google Adblock/AdNaseum/uBlock and look for their official sites then download it from their site and installs it normally, or there is an unique way for that?

Also for reference, I mainly use Microsoft's Internet Explorer on Windows 10.

uBlock Origin only supports Firefox and Chrome. Adblock Plus supports Internet Explorer. The best option is indeed to only download from official sites: the Windows Store has a sour reputation from the long time that it took for Microsoft to actually promise to remove fake applications and scams.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:51 am

So Firefox 57 "Quantum" has arrived. The version of the web browser which doesn't have support for any legacy extensions. I'm impressed with the page loading in that now it is a bit more like Google Chrome in terms of performance, but it remains to be seen if I can go back to using it as my main. I have yet to determine if it is still a memory hog or not, after extended use.

Does anyone here like it so far? This is effectively another major revamp of the browser by Mozilla. There will be limited add-ons for now, because many developers have yet to move away completely from legacy methods which now aren't compatible.
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Postby Minoa » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:43 am

Saiwania wrote:So Firefox 57 "Quantum" has arrived. The version of the web browser which doesn't have support for any legacy extensions. I'm impressed with the page loading in that now it is a bit more like Google Chrome in terms of performance, but it remains to be seen if I can go back to using it as my main. I have yet to determine if it is still a memory hog or not, after extended use.

Does anyone here like it so far? This is effectively another major revamp of the browser by Mozilla. There will be limited add-ons for now, because many developers have yet to move away completely from legacy methods which now aren't compatible.

Today is W-Day for me: that is, Waterfox is now my main browser after using Firefox since forever. There is no doubt that Firefox served me well, but a majority of the extensions I use still depend on use pre-WebExtension technology. NoScript has also fallen behind schedule.

The only reason I dropped ChatZilla was because it has not been updated in months. I am still looking for a replacement IRC extension.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:17 pm

Minoa wrote:Today is W-Day for me: that is, Waterfox is now my main browser after using Firefox since forever. There is no doubt that Firefox served me well, but a majority of the extensions I use still depend on use pre-WebExtension technology. NoScript has also fallen behind schedule.


You should eventually give regular Firefox a chance, there is a ton to like about it.

Some extensions have alternatives that perform much the same function, but is ready for WebExtension compatibility. The new AdBlock Plus looks different, but isn't in any way inferior to the legacy version. It is quite nice to now be able to update every filter simultaneously for example. I've been testing uMatrix as a stand-in for NoScript, instead of lists it is a more visual approach that uses a color coded grid; it is quite cool.

I'm in the same boat as you, only I'm using Pale Moon instead for the time being. I had to abandon Firefox when Australis was introduced, but it gradually became good enough for me to come back to it. I expect much the same with this change. A new framework is rarely great until 3 months later or so, when everyone else has caught up and it enjoys full third party support.
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Postby Minoa » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:45 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Minoa wrote:Today is W-Day for me: that is, Waterfox is now my main browser after using Firefox since forever. There is no doubt that Firefox served me well, but a majority of the extensions I use still depend on use pre-WebExtension technology. NoScript has also fallen behind schedule.


You should eventually give regular Firefox a chance, there is a ton to like about it.

Some extensions have alternatives that perform much the same function, but is ready for WebExtension compatibility. The new AdBlock Plus looks different, but isn't in any way inferior to the legacy version. It is quite nice to now be able to update every filter simultaneously for example. I've been testing uMatrix as a stand-in for NoScript, instead of lists it is a more visual approach that uses a color coded grid; it is quite cool.

I'm in the same boat as you, only I'm using Pale Moon instead for the time being. I had to abandon Firefox when Australis was introduced, but it gradually became good enough for me to come back to it. I expect much the same with this change. A new framework is rarely great until 3 months later or so, when everyone else has caught up and it enjoys full third party support.

I have not stated that I have given up on Firefox forever, but the decision to end legacy addons right now is too soon that the release Firefox 57 is too early for regular day-to-day use.

I have tried uMatrix but the options are a bit too complicated, although I agree that NoScript could give us the option to allow or block by subdomain (e.g. www.google.tld vs ad-server-thing.google.tld).
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Postby Nordengrund » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:54 pm

Minoa wrote:
Saiwania wrote:So Firefox 57 "Quantum" has arrived. The version of the web browser which doesn't have support for any legacy extensions. I'm impressed with the page loading in that now it is a bit more like Google Chrome in terms of performance, but it remains to be seen if I can go back to using it as my main. I have yet to determine if it is still a memory hog or not, after extended use.

Does anyone here like it so far? This is effectively another major revamp of the browser by Mozilla. There will be limited add-ons for now, because many developers have yet to move away completely from legacy methods which now aren't compatible.

Today is W-Day for me: that is, Waterfox is now my main browser after using Firefox since forever. There is no doubt that Firefox served me well, but a majority of the extensions I use still depend on use pre-WebExtension technology. NoScript has also fallen behind schedule.

The only reason I dropped ChatZilla was because it has not been updated in months. I am still looking for a replacement IRC extension.


I'm debating whether or not it is worth switching to Waterfox. I have been using Firefox since I was converted from IE, and it has been my primary browser until I decided to pick up Chrome. Now I use Vivaldi as my primary browser.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:01 pm

Seraven wrote:So I just need to google Adblock/AdNaseum/uBlock and look for their official sites then download it from their site and installs it normally, or there is an unique way for that?

Also for reference, I mainly use Microsoft's Internet Explorer on Windows 10.


Well, you see, some of those aren-

Also for reference, I mainly use Microsoft's Internet Explorer on Windows 10.


Nevermind everything, get a decent browser first.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:11 pm

Minoa wrote:I have tried uMatrix but the options are a bit too complicated, although I agree that NoScript could give us the option to allow or block by subdomain (e.g. http://www.google.tld vs ad-server-thing.google.tld).


NoScript is almost equally as complicated to use. There is effectively no way to tell which scripts are needed for a website to not be broken and which scripts are just useless advertising or bloat. You only have time consuming trial and error to go off of, if trying to build a whitelist or a blacklist, and that is its greatest weakness.

I don't think there exists a good way to handle scripts. It does keep your browser significantly more secure and safe, but the cost is that any time you visit a new website- it may take forever to fully configure each individual URL destination to your liking. Two dozen different scripts doing god knows what- is unfortunately typical for a lot of websites now.
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Postby Minoa » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:47 am

Saiwania wrote:
Minoa wrote:I have tried uMatrix but the options are a bit too complicated, although I agree that NoScript could give us the option to allow or block by subdomain (e.g. http://www.google.tld vs ad-server-thing.google.tld).


NoScript is almost equally as complicated to use. There is effectively no way to tell which scripts are needed for a website to not be broken and which scripts are just useless advertising or bloat. You only have time consuming trial and error to go off of, if trying to build a whitelist or a blacklist, and that is its greatest weakness.

I don't think there exists a good way to handle scripts. It does keep your browser significantly more secure and safe, but the cost is that any time you visit a new website- it may take forever to fully configure each individual URL destination to your liking. Two dozen different scripts doing god knows what- is unfortunately typical for a lot of websites now.

In any case, I will have to find some time to create my initial set of allowed domains on uMatrix and then export it as a text file to a safe place, so if the browser profile goes haywire I do not have to spend hours trying to reconfigure it to my requirements.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:13 am

How good are the upcoming Ryzen APUs for 720p or 1080p gaming? I'm thinking of building a Ryzen APU system in 1-2 years because I rarely play any demanding games anyway. Are the graphics in them better than A-series APUs or are they just for the basics? Also how good are integrated graphics in general when coupled with good RAM? Are they seriously lacking compared to graphics cards which have their own VRAM?

Saiwania wrote:So Firefox 57 "Quantum" has arrived. The version of the web browser which doesn't have support for any legacy extensions. I'm impressed with the page loading in that now it is a bit more like Google Chrome in terms of performance, but it remains to be seen if I can go back to using it as my main. I have yet to determine if it is still a memory hog or not, after extended use.

Does anyone here like it so far? This is effectively another major revamp of the browser by Mozilla. There will be limited add-ons for now, because many developers have yet to move away completely from legacy methods which now aren't compatible.


Been using Chrome for many years and switched to FF 57 to test it out and I'm going to keep it. In most cases it's noticeably faster than Chrome. And Chrome is already very fast. No crashes or freezes so far. Last time I used FF it was slow and occasionally unresponsive compared to Chrome, so it feels good to see FF making a comeback.

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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:07 am

-Ocelot- wrote:How good are the upcoming Ryzen APUs for 720p or 1080p gaming?


Not very, but it depends what you're doing. As always, wait until people actually get their hands on retail models.

I'm thinking of building a Ryzen APU system in 1-2 years because I rarely play any demanding games anyway. Are the graphics in them better than A-series APUs or are they just for the basics?


Should be better than the A-series APUs, but that isn't saying much.

Also how good are integrated graphics in general when coupled with good RAM? Are they seriously lacking compared to graphics cards which have their own VRAM?


Yes. Video RAM isn't the major issue here: raw horsepower is.
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So ever since the power went out the last time, my speakers keep making a weird static buzzy noise here and there, off and on. I think I found out it was my cellphone interfering with it, but it didn't do this before until the power went out. My phone being close to it wasn't a problem at all until then. And from what I can gather, my sister and my dads computer speakers have been doing the same thing since then. Seems kind of...weird and I kinda want to know why.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:31 am

Does someone know how I could run/emulate Paint.NET to be used on Mac OS?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:15 am

Grand Britannia wrote:Does someone know how I could run/emulate Paint.NET to be used on Mac OS?


Emulate through WINE, or if you have a machine capable enough, run it through a VM using Windows 10.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:12 am

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Grand Britannia wrote:Does someone know how I could run/emulate Paint.NET to be used on Mac OS?


Emulate through WINE, or if you have a machine capable enough, run it through a VM using Windows 10.


Would using WINE hinder using peripherals on the program?
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Postby The Alexanderians » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:02 am

Grand Britannia wrote:Does someone know how I could run/emulate Paint.NET to be used on Mac OS?

GIMP might work on Mac OS if Paint.NET won't.
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Postby Minoa » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:02 am

Grand Britannia wrote:Does someone know how I could run/emulate Paint.NET to be used on Mac OS?

If it wasn't payware (£14.99), I would have said Pixelmator.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:55 am

I checked around the Wine website and apperently Paint.NET does not work under it. So I installed GIMP to replace it.

Learning how to use it hasn't been as bad as I thought, but the simplicity of Paint.NET is missed.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:58 am

Anyone know any good resources on Assembly help? Rare flower that they are they really only have help for the 8086 and even that can be dodgy.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:49 pm

Well I have to say, I'm not impressed with WebExtensions, it sucks. I say this because it has ruined the UI of NoScript and it may well be a long while before it is sorted out. The old UI of NoScript was good as it was, but isn't technically possible to implement anymore.
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