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Postby The Time Alliance » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:58 pm

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New Babylonia wrote:Luna is so beautiful. Almost as much as Twilight :P


Yea, but Luna can carry herself with regal grace, can Twilight do that? No? Okay then! :P

Luna in a dress

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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:59 pm

Celestia gotten a little clingy since Luna's return.

Damn, it must be Luna's Day since I'm finding so many good Luna's artwork today.

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Postby New Babylonia » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:59 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Yea, but Luna can carry herself with regal grace, can Twilight do that? No? Okay then! :P

Luna in a dress

Yes.

She could. She chooses not to.
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Postby Patridam » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:03 pm

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Honestly, especially after Simple Ways, Spike's total crush on Rarity seems to be waning (at least to the point where he's not even that envious of Trenderhood). Plus SS would actually need the CMC's help to woo him because of his crush. If she were to go after Featherweight or really any other colt in her class, she would most likely not need help too woo them (least of all from the CMC) because she is, after all, the second most popular gal in school (or appears to be).

Maybe I just want to see Sweetie Bell give SS's hair the Rarity-ringlet treatment, not to mention fake eyelashes and eye shadow (though they should prove ineffective at winning Spike over; we don't want to teach 8 year old girls the wrong thoughts about wearing makeup).


Well, have Diamond Tiara go away with her dad on a business trip for a week, and then show that she's basically been using DT as a crutch in social situations, without the main bitch, she's actually a shy and nervous pony who's self conscious about what other ponies think of her. That way, she'd still need the CMC's help to get Featherweight and the episode wouldn't be ruined by Spike. Honestly at this point, any episode that has Spike in it has not been a good episode. It's a trend that started with Spike At Your Service.


Well I stick by Spike in this situation, but I certainly see your point. I was trying to use this episode to buck that trend of bad Spike episodes (though 'Simple Ways' wasn't all that great, it wasn't Spike's fault). I am really curious as to how the upcoming ep, which features Spike heavily, will fare.

I think the decrease in the quality of Spike-related eps is mainly due to writers treating him like a butt-monkey. He has shown the capability of being a deep character ('Secret of My Excess' anyone? - mind you, written by a male) but is rarely given the chance thanks to flanderization and character discontinuity. This plot, especially with ending A, could save him from the character derailment train and give a major insight into SS; who is right now far too flat.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:04 pm

New Babylonia wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:Yes.

She could. She chooses not to.

She's more down to earth with the princess job. Which I frankly respect.

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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:05 pm

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Well, have Diamond Tiara go away with her dad on a business trip for a week, and then show that she's basically been using DT as a crutch in social situations, without the main bitch, she's actually a shy and nervous pony who's self conscious about what other ponies think of her. That way, she'd still need the CMC's help to get Featherweight and the episode wouldn't be ruined by Spike. Honestly at this point, any episode that has Spike in it has not been a good episode. It's a trend that started with Spike At Your Service.


Well I stick by Spike in this situation, but I certainly see your point. I was trying to use this episode to buck that trend of bad Spike episodes (though 'Simple Ways' wasn't all that great, it wasn't Spike's fault). I am really curious as to how the upcoming ep, which features Spike heavily, will fare.

I think the decrease in the quality of Spike-related eps is mainly due to writers treating him like a butt-monkey. He has shown the capability of being a deep character ('Secret of My Excess' anyone? - mind you, written by a male) but is rarely given the chance thanks to flanderization and character discontinuity. This plot, especially with ending A, could save him from the character derailment train and give a major insight into SS; who is right now far too flat.


Honestly if I had it my way, I'd just write Spike out of the show, maybe his real parents come to pick him up or whatever and just have him leave. If any male character that need to be develop, it'd be Big Mac, at least the staff doesn't treat him as a butt monkey.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:06 pm

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New Babylonia wrote:She could. She chooses not to.

She's more down to earth with the princess job. Which I frankly respect.

We haven't seen her do a single thing she wouldn't otherwise.
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Postby New Babylonia » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:06 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:She could. She chooses not to.

She's more down to earth with the princess job. Which I frankly respect.

Very humble about it, which i always liked, too.
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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:08 pm

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The Time Alliance wrote:She's more down to earth with the princess job. Which I frankly respect.

We haven't seen her do a single thing she wouldn't otherwise.


Honestly, I really wish Luna and Celestia would be Queens and then Twilight could be an actual Princess. A mare who's next in line for one of the two thrones of Equestria, but she doesn't have any actual authority unless one of the Queens (or both) are unable to fulfill their royal duties. This whole business of everyone being a Princess, even though they're clearly not on the same footing, power-wise is very confusing and makes for poor writing.

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Postby The Time Alliance » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:11 pm

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Wisconsin9 wrote:We haven't seen her do a single thing she wouldn't otherwise.


Honestly, I really wish Luna and Celestia would be Queens and then Twilight could be an actual Princess. A mare who's next in line for one of the two thrones of Equestria, but she doesn't have any actual authority unless one of the Queens (or both) are unable to fulfill their royal duties. This whole business of everyone being a Princess, even though they're clearly not on the same footing, power-wise is very confusing and makes for poor writing.

I agree here.

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Postby Patridam » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:11 pm

Anybody else, thoughts on this? Silver Spoon, CMC, and Spike fans should be especially interested:

MY PROPOSED Plot for season 5 episode: Silver Spoon meets Spike at some form of CMC-related event (I do not believe he has met Diamond Tiara or SS?) and gets a crush on him (being as they are somewhere approaching the same age and the school-age colts are a sad lot). Spike, as always, is oblivious. SS splits off from being DT's crony to enlist the help of the CMC to get him to notice her. The CMC once again try their hooves at matchmaking: Scootaloo tries to get SS to do something 120% awesome to impress Spike (fails), Apple Bloom tries to give her lessons in being less bitchy (thereby revealing that she is not actually mean underneath), and Sweetie Belle does her best to make SS more Rarity-ish via makeover and assumed accent (with moderate but entertaining success). Spike ends up noticing her and either A.) shows an interest in her (destroying the status quo, leaving DT alone and open for a character episode, and potentially curbing Sparity shippers) or B.) (more likely) is as kind as he can be but says he's still 100% Rarity; which devastates SS and makes her return to DT (Status quo is god).


It doesn't have to be Spike, but I stand by that this role would be good for his character.




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Well I stick by Spike in this situation, but I certainly see your point. I was trying to use this episode to buck that trend of bad Spike episodes (though 'Simple Ways' wasn't all that great, it wasn't Spike's fault). I am really curious as to how the upcoming ep, which features Spike heavily, will fare.

I think the decrease in the quality of Spike-related eps is mainly due to writers treating him like a butt-monkey. He has shown the capability of being a deep character ('Secret of My Excess' anyone? - mind you, written by a male) but is rarely given the chance thanks to flanderization and character discontinuity. This plot, especially with ending A, could save him from the character derailment train and give a major insight into SS; who is right now far too flat.


Honestly if I had it my way, I'd just write Spike out of the show, maybe his real parents come to pick him up or whatever and just have him leave. If any male character that need to be develop, it'd be Big Mac, at least the staff doesn't treat him as a butt monkey.


It's probably just a matter of time until Big Mac gets the butt-monkey; MLP is not kind to any of the few male characters. And I would agree that if Spike continues too far down the path he is currently on, he might be unsalvageable. But I like to think we can still save him while there is still time?
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Postby Pargentina » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:30 pm

It just occured to me that attempting to dance with a pony would be exeedingly difficult for both parties.
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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:33 pm

Pargentina wrote:It just occured to me that attempting to dance with a pony would be exeedingly difficult for both parties.


I'm not that much of a dancer anyway, I much prefer to cuddle a pony.






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Postby Pargentina » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:38 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Pargentina wrote:It just occured to me that attempting to dance with a pony would be exeedingly difficult for both parties.


I'm not that much of a dancer anyway, I much prefer to cuddle a pony.

Consider it. A human is bipedal and tall. A pony is quadrupedal and long. It presents an issue.
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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:39 pm

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I'm not that much of a dancer anyway, I much prefer to cuddle a pony.

Consider it. A human is bipedal and tall. A pony is quadrupedal and long. It presents an issue.


For dancing or cuddling?

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Postby New Babylonia » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:40 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Pargentina wrote:Consider it. A human is bipedal and tall. A pony is quadrupedal and long. It presents an issue.


For dancing or cuddling?

Dancing. Cuddling works just fine. Twily helped prove that :)
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Postby Pargentina » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:41 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Pargentina wrote:Consider it. A human is bipedal and tall. A pony is quadrupedal and long. It presents an issue.


For dancing or cuddling?

I dont suppose you have to be standing up to cuddle. Lying down, standing up, and whatever angle inbetween. Anything goes. Such is not the case with an amiable waltz.
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Postby The Norgan Alliance » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:41 pm

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That is beautiful, did you make it?

It's a birthday card from back when I was eight.

It was foreshadowing :p
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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:41 pm

Pargentina wrote:
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For dancing or cuddling?

I dont suppose you have to be standing up to cuddle. Lying down, standing up, and whatever angle inbetween. Anything goes. Such is not the case with an amiable waltz.


Well this is kinda why I like anthro, you get the pony, but without the limitation of a pony.

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Postby Pargentina » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:44 pm

The Norgan Alliance wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
That is beautiful, did you make it?

It's a birthday card from back when I was eight.

It was foreshadowing :p

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Postby The Time Alliance » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:45 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Pargentina wrote:I dont suppose you have to be standing up to cuddle. Lying down, standing up, and whatever angle inbetween. Anything goes. Such is not the case with an amiable waltz.


Well this is kinda why I like anthro, you get the pony, but without the limitation of a pony.

I like all the forms.

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Postby Magthere » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:46 pm

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Give the Vulcan salute plus phrase (Live Long and Prosper), and initiate first contact protocols, plus CMC addendum to those First Contact protocols...

Patridam wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
I'm not sure how to feel about Silver Spoon TBH. I mean she's a bitch to the CMC, but at the same time she's clearly a hanger on for Diamond Tiara, maybe if she got away from DT, she'd turn into a different pony.


Plot for season 5 episode: Silver Spoon meets Spike at some form of CMC-related event (I do not believe he has met Diamond Tiara or SS?) and gets a crush on him (being as they are somewhere approaching the same age and the school-age colts are a sad lot). Spike, as always, is oblivious. SS splits off from being DT's crony to enlist the help of the CMC to get him to notice her. The CMC once again try their hooves at matchmaking: Scootaloo tries to get SS to do something 120% awesome to impress Spike (fails), Apple Bloom tries to give her lessons in being less bitchy (thereby revealing that she is not actually mean underneath), and Sweetie Belle does her best to make SS more Rarity-ish via makeover and assumed accent (with moderate but entertaining success). Spike ends up noticing her and either A.) shows an interest in her (destroying the status quo, leaving DT alone and open for a character episode, and potentially curbing Sparity shippers) or B.) (more likely) is as kind as he can be but says he's still 100% Rarity; which devastates SS and makes her return to DT (Status quo is god).

^ Not sure if terrible or genius ^ I'm no writer, but thoughts?


I'm thinking that if we're talking a "redeem Silver Spoon" episode doing it for a crush seems a bit a. cliché and b. has some rather poor implications if you start thinking about it.

Possibilities that strike my mind:

1. Diamond Tiara crosses the Godzilla threshold and Silver Spoon breaks off her friendship and we see her try and initiate a friendship with the crusaders. After some effort she succeeds, and we gradually watch DT have a break down of not quite Azula proportions but along a similar stream of thought.

2. Silver Spoon has some closet hobby/talent that does not meet DT's standards which causes her to stop her friendship with Silver Spoon. The crusaders appreciate Silver Spoon's talent and make her feel better about it. However Silver Spoon struggles between giving up the hobby to have Diamond Tiara back or keeping her hobby and trying to make new friends.
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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:46 pm

Pargentina wrote:
The Norgan Alliance wrote:It's a birthday card from back when I was eight.

It was foreshadowing :p

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