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Are you picking up the new Shadowspear set?

Yes, I am, or I already have it!
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I'm still on the fence.
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No, I'm not interested in the set / the armies in it.
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Total votes : 26

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Postby Slorch » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:20 am

Morrdh wrote:
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:palm: why would they do that...


So they can copyright the names.


Eh well fine...
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Postby Morrdh » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:00 am

Part the third of my 40K fanfic "Wings of the Aquilla" can be found on the forum of much dakka.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/po ... ge#6670751
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Postby Tagmatium » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:18 am

Slorch wrote:
Morrdh wrote:
So they can copyright the names.


Eh well fine...

It's a fairly sensible move by them, to be fair.
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Postby Slorch » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:22 am

Tagmatium wrote:
Slorch wrote:
Eh well fine...

It's a fairly sensible move by them, to be fair.


Still feels kind of stupid everyone will probably still call them IG
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:24 am

Slorch wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:It's a fairly sensible move by them, to be fair.


Still feels kind of stupid everyone will probably still call them IG

I am trying to switch to AM bit by bit.
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Postby Tagmatium » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:29 am

Slorch wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:It's a fairly sensible move by them, to be fair.


Still feels kind of stupid everyone will probably still call them IG

Until the point that more of the people who start are knowing them as "AM", so you'd be able to tell who has been playing 40K for a while.
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Postby Slorch » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:38 am

Tagmatium wrote:
Slorch wrote:
Still feels kind of stupid everyone will probably still call them IG

Until the point that more of the people who start are knowing them as "AM", so you'd be able to tell who has been playing 40K for a while.


Wait so I will be one of though "old" folks...
"... Ultramarines never have to deal with shit like that. Then again, they are the Ultramarines. Rebels don't surrender out of fear of them, they surrender because the last they want is another lecture about their prowess in battle."- AETEN II
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Postby Partially Blind People » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:41 am

Slorch wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Until the point that more of the people who start are knowing them as "AM", so you'd be able to tell who has been playing 40K for a while.


Wait so I will be one of though "old" folks...


One of the old vets who will say things like 'I remember when you got 10 models in a box!' and 'Wasn't 40k so much better when you couldn't field a reaver titan in a 500 point game?'
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Postby Slorch » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:44 am

Partially Blind People wrote:
Slorch wrote:
Wait so I will be one of though "old" folks...


One of the old vets who will say things like 'I remember when you got 10 models in a box!' and 'Wasn't 40k so much better when you couldn't field a reaver titan in a 500 point game?'


I have basicly refued to play any game with a superheavy in it
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Postby Jormengand » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:09 pm

Slorch wrote:
Partially Blind People wrote:
One of the old vets who will say things like 'I remember when you got 10 models in a box!' and 'Wasn't 40k so much better when you couldn't field a reaver titan in a 500 point game?'


I have basicly refued to play any game with a superheavy in it

I have played a 1500 game with four knights in. Pity me.

That said, I won because moar meltas, but ehh.
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Postby Slorch » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:38 pm

Jormengand wrote:
Slorch wrote:
I have basicly refued to play any game with a superheavy in it

I have played a 1500 game with four knights in. Pity me.

That said, I won because moar meltas, but ehh.
"... Ultramarines never have to deal with shit like that. Then again, they are the Ultramarines. Rebels don't surrender out of fear of them, they surrender because the last they want is another lecture about their prowess in battle."- AETEN II
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Pragia
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Postby Pragia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:18 pm

Slorch wrote:
Partially Blind People wrote:
One of the old vets who will say things like 'I remember when you got 10 models in a box!' and 'Wasn't 40k so much better when you couldn't field a reaver titan in a 500 point game?'


I have basicly refued to play any game with a superheavy in it

*is that guy who runs with a barebones IG and a 4-sponson, pintle bolter Stormsword in a 750 PT game*

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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:21 pm

Pragia wrote:
Slorch wrote:
I have basicly refued to play any game with a superheavy in it

*is that guy who runs with a barebones IG and a 4-sponson, pintle bolter Stormsword in a 750 PT game*


Pah. It'll be toast for flyers.
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Postby Pragia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:23 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Pragia wrote:*is that guy who runs with a barebones IG and a 4-sponson, pintle bolter Stormsword in a 750 PT game*


Pah. It'll be toast for flyers.

4 TL heavy Bolters say otherwise, also the fact that I still got 25 las guns to shoot at it (iirc they have a chance of pening rear)

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Postby Nyte » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:27 pm

Pragia wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Pah. It'll be toast for flyers.

4 TL heavy Bolters say otherwise, also the fact that I still got 25 las guns to shoot at it (iirc they have a chance of pening rear)


I has 1 Stormraven... You lose.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:30 pm

Nyte wrote:
Pragia wrote:4 TL heavy Bolters say otherwise, also the fact that I still got 25 las guns to shoot at it (iirc they have a chance of pening rear)


I has 1 Stormraven... You lose.


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Postby Jormengand » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:31 pm

Pragia wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Pah. It'll be toast for flyers.

4 TL heavy Bolters say otherwise, also the fact that I still got 25 las guns to shoot at it (iirc they have a chance of pening rear)

You don't rc. S3 AV10 needs 7s on a d6.

While in WHF it is actually possible to do that on your To Hit roll, it is not possible in 40K.
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Postby Pragia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:35 pm

Nyte wrote:
Pragia wrote:4 TL heavy Bolters say otherwise, also the fact that I still got 25 las guns to shoot at it (iirc they have a chance of pening rear)


I has 1 Stormraven... You lose.

Please refer to previous heavy Bolters, 12 shots without sky fire have 1/6 to hit iirc, so average 2 hits, they're S5, so iirc that's 1/3 chance to damage. Not to mention 4 Lascannons so that's 2/3 chance to land an almost always penetrating hit.

EDIT: not sure on this one, don't have my SM dex, how heavily armored are stormravens?
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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:38 pm

Pragia wrote:
Nyte wrote:
I has 1 Stormraven... You lose.

Please refer to previous heavy Bolters, 12 shots without sky fire have 1/6 to hit iirc, so average 2 hits, they're S5, so iirc that's 1/3 chance to damage. Not to mention 4 Lascannons so that's 2/3 chance to land an almost always penetrating hit.

EDIT: not sure on this one, don't have my SM dex, how heavily armored are stormravens?


12 all around, IIRC.
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Postby Jormengand » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:39 pm

Pragia wrote:
Nyte wrote:
I has 1 Stormraven... You lose.

Please refer to previous heavy Bolters, 12 shots without sky fire have 1/6 to hit iirc, so average 2 hits, they're S5, so iirc that's 1/3 chance to damage. Not to mention 4 Lascannons so that's 2/3 chance to land an almost always penetrating hit.

EDIT: not sure on this one, don't have my SM dex, how heavily armored are stormravens?

12s, so only a third of your lascannons and none of your anything else will work.
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Postby Nyte » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:40 pm

Pragia wrote:
Nyte wrote:
I has 1 Stormraven... You lose.

Please refer to previous heavy Bolters, 12 shots without sky fire have 1/6 to hit iirc, so average 2 hits, they're S5, so iirc that's 1/3 chance to damage. Not to mention 4 Lascannons so that's 2/3 chance to land an almost always penetrating hit.


Heavy bolter is S5... Stormraven is AV 12... Your Lascannons are the only thing that could do it - assuming you roll a 6 to hit for any of them. You'd then need a 3 to glance or a 4+ to pen - assuming I don't just jink to get a save. Odds are NOT in your favor.
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Postby Pragia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:40 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Pragia wrote:Please refer to previous heavy Bolters, 12 shots without sky fire have 1/6 to hit iirc, so average 2 hits, they're S5, so iirc that's 1/3 chance to damage. Not to mention 4 Lascannons so that's 2/3 chance to land an almost always penetrating hit.

EDIT: not sure on this one, don't have my SM dex, how heavily armored are stormravens?


12 all around, IIRC.

*grumbles about spehss mehreens*
Okay, so then nvm, 2/3 chance to hit with Lascannons, 1/2 chance to damage...

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Postby Vicious Debaters » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:03 pm

Why did the Void Shield generator sell out in ten minutes, while the rest of the similarly-priced 'limited' stuff takes months or years to sell out?

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Postby Greater Istanistan » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:55 pm

Nyte wrote:
Pragia wrote:4 TL heavy Bolters say otherwise, also the fact that I still got 25 las guns to shoot at it (iirc they have a chance of pening rear)


I has 1 Stormraven... You lose.


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Postby Nyte » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:36 pm

Greater Istanistan wrote:
Nyte wrote:
I has 1 Stormraven... You lose.


Croissant of Damnation defeats you all.


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