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Are you picking up the new Shadowspear set?

Yes, I am, or I already have it!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:28 pm

Maichuko wrote:Have the Tau ever conquered a Space marine homeworld? I'd imagine they would just glass the fortress monastery since it would cost too many meatshields Auxiliaries to storm the place.

Dont think so no. I think the closest one to them is Macragge and well.. ah good luck with that.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:43 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:According to White Dwarf I think it was the Tau are also apparently getting a bit darker, I'm not a huge fan of them by any means but I'm curious to see what GW has planned.

So the blue cows are finally getting into the grimdark swing of things. Bout time. I was tired of them being naive space commies.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:02 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:According to White Dwarf I think it was the Tau are also apparently getting a bit darker, I'm not a huge fan of them by any means but I'm curious to see what GW has planned.

So the blue cows are finally getting into the grimdark swing of things. Bout time. I was tired of them being naive space commies.

Ameri you should join us for the greater good.

The Greater Good.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:08 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:The Tau are better at making allies than the Imperium, though.

Diplomacy doesn't do much if no one else listens. They've made all the allies they can, here's the list of people they haven't allied with:
-The Imperium: Xenophobic catholic space nazis. Suffer not the traitor, the xeno, or the heretic. Initiate Exterminatus. The Emperor protects.
-The Necrons: Immortal, psychopathic killer robots bent on eradicating all life.
-The Tyranids: OMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
-Chaos: Nurgle would infect them all with various plagues, Tzeentch would stab them in the back, Khorne would stab them in the face, and Slaanesh would do unspeakable things to the bodies, so no.
-The Eldar: Potentially the most promising. If they can get over the fact that the average Eldar's head is so far up their ass it wound up back on their shoulders, the Tau might be able to make an alliance with them.
-The Dark Eldar: ...On the other hand, this won't work. The Dark Eldar are on the Tau's kill list after the... cultural exchange incident, and even if they weren't, the DE basically combine the worst features of the normal Eldar and a hardcore Slaaneshi Chaos cult.
-The Orks: Combine Khornate bloodlust with Space Marine fearlessness and disdain for negotation, and you get what the average diplomatic discussion with an Ork WAAAGH! would be like.

Save for MAYBE the Eldar, none of these are particularly interested in actual diplomacy. Slaaneshi, Tzeentchian, or Dark Eldar forces might make short alliances (for instance, to fight a single campaign), but all of these would end in eternal torture, kidnapping, and backstabbing, in no particular order.

There are rumors of the Tau interacting with a species that might or might not be the officially Tyranid-devoured Squats under another name.


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:09 pm

The Squats came back tho, knockoffs be gone
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:10 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:So the blue cows are finally getting into the grimdark swing of things. Bout time. I was tired of them being naive space commies.

Ameri you should join us for the greater good.

The Greater Good.

While I often mock their fruitless fight against their encroaching destruction from Xeno forces, I am still human. Imperium all the way baby.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:14 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:The Squats came back tho, knockoffs be gone

Citation needed.


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:20 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:The Squats came back tho, knockoffs be gone

Citation needed.


There's a Squat bounty hunter in the new version of Necromunda, iirc.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:26 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Citation needed.

There's a Squat bounty hunter in the new version of Necromunda, iirc.

That's what the Lexicanum said as well, but it doesn't exactly mean they're back as a playable faction.


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:27 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:There's a Squat bounty hunter in the new version of Necromunda, iirc.

That's what the Lexicanum said as well, but it doesn't exactly mean they're back as a playable faction.


It means they're back from extinction at least. Slow and steady friendo, with any luck we'll get a new Squat army before the Sisters get something new.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:That's what the Lexicanum said as well, but it doesn't exactly mean they're back as a playable faction.

It means they're back from extinction at least. Slow and steady friendo, with any luck we'll get a new Squat army before the Sisters get something new.

Which would mean that GW is going to need to undo their previous drastic retcon of the Squats. It has been standard procedure for the company to boldly claim that the Squats never even existed, going even so far as to edit reissues of novels that used to mention the Squats.


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Postby Crookfur » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:That's what the Lexicanum said as well, but it doesn't exactly mean they're back as a playable faction.


It means they're back from extinction at least. Slow and steady friendo, with any luck we'll get a new Squat army before the Sisters get something new.


They were never fully extinct. GW always left room for squat survivors as part of the imperium and IIRC some squat worlds did apparently join the imperium. There were also rules in the journal to use squats as imp. gaurd, which kind of took them back to how they started out in RT before they developed the lore about the homeworlds and the war engines for Epic.

Nope the squat character for nercomunda isn't a sign of reborn squats as anything beyond the possibility of abhuman guard units.

As for the demiurg thing, it seems they have made absolutely bugger all movement on them since BFG first came out so i doubt they will ever get any more fleshed out than they are.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:35 pm

I'll take more abhuman units too. Gimme Squats and Beastmen and I'll be very happy.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:48 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:According to White Dwarf I think it was the Tau are also apparently getting a bit darker, I'm not a huge fan of them by any means but I'm curious to see what GW has planned.

So the blue cows are finally getting into the grimdark swing of things. Bout time. I was tired of them being naive space commies.

But they were never space commies.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:49 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:So the blue cows are finally getting into the grimdark swing of things. Bout time. I was tired of them being naive space commies.

But they were never space commies.

Naive space socialists then. Whatever. Point is, their obliviousness to the setting annoyed me.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:53 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:But they were never space commies.

Naive space socialists then. Whatever. Point is, their obliviousness to the setting annoyed me.

Not even Socialists.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:55 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Naive space socialists then. Whatever. Point is, their obliviousness to the setting annoyed me.

Not even Socialists.

WHATEVER.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:03 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Not even Socialists.

WHATEVER.

They're closer to fascists or even Confucians than Socialists.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:45 am

When the guy with a hammer and sickle on his flag is thinking that we should really avoid the socialism debate, it means that we should really avoid the socialism debate.

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Postby Tethys 13 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:32 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:When the guy with a hammer and sickle on his flag is thinking that we should really avoid the socialism debate, it means that we should really avoid the socialism debate.


Haha, indeed.

Going back to the Tau discovering how vast the Imperium is and how outmatched they were, it was also a shock to the Imperium just how technologically advanced the Tau had become in such a short time - "For the Emperor!" by Sandy Mitchell (the first Ciaphas Cain novel) goes into that in a quite interesting way.

By the way Happyland, is your signature just a standard copyright prevention style thing, or is it possibly a reference to Team Four Star's Hellsing Ultimate Abridged?
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:38 pm

Tethys 13 wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:When the guy with a hammer and sickle on his flag is thinking that we should really avoid the socialism debate, it means that we should really avoid the socialism debate.


Haha, indeed.

Going back to the Tau discovering how vast the Imperium is and how outmatched they were, it was also a shock to the Imperium just how technologically advanced the Tau had become in such a short time - "For the Emperor!" by Sandy Mitchell (the first Ciaphas Cain novel) goes into that in a quite interesting way.

By the way Happyland, is your signature just a standard copyright prevention style thing, or is it possibly a reference to Team Four Star's Hellsing Ultimate Abridged?

It's more a reference to their Dragonball Z abridged than it is to their Hellsing Ultimate Abridged. If it were a Hellsing Abridged reference, I'd have tossed in something along the lines of "ya capitalist f**kbucket" to the end :P

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Postby Maichuko » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:27 pm

From what I can tell from the lore there are a lot more Dark Eldar than craftworlders and Exodites yes? like Billions more. I know they don't use soul stones and operate on the principal that if you die and don't have the connections to be resurrected you deserved it so they don't care about population control.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:37 pm

Tethys 13 wrote:Going back to the Tau discovering how vast the Imperium is and how outmatched they were, it was also a shock to the Imperium just how technologically advanced the Tau had become in such a short time - "For the Emperor!" by Sandy Mitchell (the first Ciaphas Cain novel) goes into that in a quite interesting way.

I imagine any technological advancement shocks the Imperium, considering how bad their own tech is stagnated.
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Postby Trollgaard » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:46 am

So I have the beginnings, for the fourth time...of a chaos force....fml. But I'ma do it right this time, I swear! :lol:

I have fifteen kakaphoni (which'll b noise marines, duh) on the way. I'd like to expand that to 3 squads of 10 noise marines with lucius leading, or at least a part of the army. Add in a sorceror or two, a sonic dreadnought or two, a contemptor dreadnought for sure (dreadnoughts and walkers are mah favorite in 40k, next to rough rider), and some rapier batteries (maybe like 2 quad heavy bolters, and two laser destroyers or something), and then fill in other stuff as needed. Like a raptors, bikes, etc. I know I want 3 squads of noise marines, and eventually a couple squads of regular marines, oh, and at least two squads of havoks as the core of my emperor's children list.

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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:25 am

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