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Are you picking up the new Shadowspear set?

Yes, I am, or I already have it!
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I'm still on the fence.
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No, I'm not interested in the set / the armies in it.
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Postby Morrdh » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:06 pm

Ulisses North America has the old Fantasy Flight 40K RPGs up for sale on DriveThruRPG, only seems to be PDFs but does include both editions of Dark Heresy.

Same guys which are doing the new 40K RPG.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:24 am


Well, looks like I'm going to have to listen to the soothing voice emanating from the Golden Throne once more.


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Postby Ardavia » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:22 am

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Another valid way is to just... Introduce the models maybe? Because it's not like they've never had to make new models?


BEAKIEEEEEES :'(


One thing I really dislike about the Chadmarines is they're basically the epitome of "THESE ARE THE BEST SOLDIERS EVER, MATCHED BY NONE."

If you read about Cadians, it'll say they're TRAINED SINCE BIRTH TO FIGHT etc LESSER MEN WOULD GO INSANE etc, but then the same thing is written about the Scions, then the Assassins, then the "regular" Space Marines and Sisters (the latter of whom get schwacked every time they come up and exist to portray Worf Effect,) and now, Primaris Marines. Almost every unit is "the absolute best" and "worth X men from any other unit." How can you already have apparently perfect soldiers and then make them even more perfect?

I've yet to face a Primaris player on the tabletop, so I can't really speak to the crunch aspect of them. If they're BS/WS 2+ though like Custodes, I'm going to be mildly (very) upset


iirc
compared to normal SMs, the chadmarines get +1 wound, +1 attack, and a better weapon (+6" range and -1 AP, compared to the normal bolter), with the same statline otherwise
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Postby Communist Xomaniax » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:26 pm

Any good reading about the Ogres?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:26 am

Communist Xomaniax wrote:Any good reading about the Ogres?

Shrek the Novel.
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:18 am



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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:56 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Communist Xomaniax wrote:Any good reading about the Ogres?

Shrek the Novel.

Shall we ever be liberated from the ominous shadow of Shrek? Come to think of it, is it possible that Shrek is the original manifestation of what shall become known as the Divine Duo of the Ork's interstellar 'civilization' in the grim darkness of the far future? The Immaterium works in strange ways, after all?


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Postby Jetan » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:21 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Shrek the Novel.

Shall we ever be liberated from the ominous shadow of Shrek? Come to think of it, is it possible that Shrek is the original manifestation of what shall become known as the Divine Duo of the Ork's interstellar 'civilization' in the grim darkness of the far future? The Immaterium works in strange ways, after all?

Indeed. The divine manifestation of Gork. Or possibly Mork.
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Postby Onekawa-Nukanor » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:35 pm

Morrdh wrote:Ulisses North America has the old Fantasy Flight 40K RPGs up for sale on DriveThruRPG, only seems to be PDFs but does include both editions of Dark Heresy.

Same guys which are doing the new 40K RPG.


I'm really excited for Wrath & Glory. It's got a good team behind it. Plus you'll be able to play Primaris Marines, so that's something I'm looking forward too.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:32 pm

Jetan wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Shall we ever be liberated from the ominous shadow of Shrek? Come to think of it, is it possible that Shrek is the original manifestation of what shall become known as the Divine Duo of the Ork's interstellar 'civilization' in the grim darkness of the far future? The Immaterium works in strange ways, after all?

Indeed. The divine manifestation of Gork. Or possibly Mork.

Hm. If Mork is Shrek, Gork is probably princess Fiona.


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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:45 pm

She's cunnin' but brutal.
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Postby Jetan » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:43 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Jetan wrote:Indeed. The divine manifestation of Gork. Or possibly Mork.

Hm. If Mork is Shrek, Gork is probably princess Fiona.

I think it's the other way around.

Socialist Czechia wrote:She's cunnin' but brutal.

No, that's Mork. Gork is brutal but kunnin', Mork is kunnin' but brutal.
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Postby Morrdh » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:00 pm

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
Morrdh wrote:Ulisses North America has the old Fantasy Flight 40K RPGs up for sale on DriveThruRPG, only seems to be PDFs but does include both editions of Dark Heresy.

Same guys which are doing the new 40K RPG.


I'm really excited for Wrath & Glory. It's got a good team behind it. Plus you'll be able to play Primaris Marines, so that's something I'm looking forward too.


Got me curious what sort of power level W&G games are suppose to be.

Had an idea for a bunch of mercs/tomb raiders that was somewhere between Dark Hersey and Rogue Trader in scope.
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Postby Onekawa-Nukanor » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:31 pm

Morrdh wrote:
Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
I'm really excited for Wrath & Glory. It's got a good team behind it. Plus you'll be able to play Primaris Marines, so that's something I'm looking forward too.


Got me curious what sort of power level W&G games are suppose to be.

Had an idea for a bunch of mercs/tomb raiders that was somewhere between Dark Hersey and Rogue Trader in scope.


Apparently its corebook is supposed to be "broad and inclusive" for a wide range of play, from the "untrained guardsmen in way over their heads as they are being slaughtered by a singe Ork Nob" to "Veteran Space Marines going toe-to-toe wth Tyranid Warriors".

Plus there will be support for Orks and Eldar as playable races.
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Postby Ardavia » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:27 pm

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
Morrdh wrote:
Got me curious what sort of power level W&G games are suppose to be.

Had an idea for a bunch of mercs/tomb raiders that was somewhere between Dark Hersey and Rogue Trader in scope.


Apparently its corebook is supposed to be "broad and inclusive" for a wide range of play, from the "untrained guardsmen in way over their heads as they are being slaughtered by a singe Ork Nob" to "Veteran Space Marines going toe-to-toe wth Tyranid Warriors".

Plus there will be support for Orks and Eldar as playable races.


That sounds cool. One of my pet gripes with the FFG 40k RPGs is the issue of how XP isn't always equal (you get a lot more mileage out of 5000 XP in the old games where Talents and things tend to cost a flat 200, while in the new games those same or equivalent Talents tend to cost at least twice as much depending on Tier and Aptitudes), which presents obvious difficulties when trying to port shit from, say, OW to DH even before you get into the nitty gritty of mechanics changes and differences in rules that are just a headache.

So a system that actually lets you go anywhere from Guardsmen to Chadmarines on the power scale sounds pretty good.
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Postby Iyanden » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:36 am

I have to say yey for Primaris marines they do so much damage alongside my Custodians. I made them space wolves over smurfs

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Postby Iyanden » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:39 am

I wonder if when new space wolves and custodian content will be relased

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Postby Hirota » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:58 pm

Iyanden wrote:I have to say yey for Primaris marines they do so much damage alongside my Custodians. I made them space wolves over smurfs

Iirc most of the primaris wolves got ordered into their own chapter. It was mentioned in one of the books.

Don't want to steal your mojo though, I'm sure a few made it to fenris, or whatever is left of it.
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Postby Iyanden » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:30 pm

Hirota wrote:
Iyanden wrote:I have to say yey for Primaris marines they do so much damage alongside my Custodians. I made them space wolves over smurfs

Iirc most of the primaris wolves got ordered into their own chapter. It was mentioned in one of the books.

Don't want to steal your mojo though, I'm sure a few made it to fenris, out whatever is left of it.

I am gonna buy normal space wolves I just have primaris stuff from the dark imperium box

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:00 am

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:10 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:

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Won't somebody thinks of the Inquisition?


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Postby Trollgaard » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:15 pm

So it looks like Rough Riders are not in the new Guard codex.

WTF.

If they are truly gone then I may be done with 40k.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:30 pm

Trollgaard wrote:So it looks like Rough Riders are not in the new Guard codex.

WTF.

If they are truly gone then I may be done with 40k.


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