The Warhammer 40.000/Fantasy Discussion Thread Mk.II

[Genivaria]

I've concluded that "fascist space Iran" is a better description of the Imperium than "space nazi Germany"

Religious doctrines, beards, clunky old tech, it's all there.

Beards? Since when? And they're not Nazi Germany, they're Space Holy Roman Empire.

Considering how diverse the Imperium actually is, that comparison makes more sense.

[Lord Tothe]

This looks like it'll actually be pretty good. http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40 ... st-patrol/

[The United Remnants of America]

I know this sounds stupid, but I wish you could buy built and painted models new instead of buying them new in pieces and unpainted, or buying them second-hand already put together and painted up.

[Mefpan]

I know this sounds stupid, but I wish you could buy built and painted models new instead of buying them new in pieces and unpainted, or buying them second-hand already put together and painted up.

I know they sell variations on Guardsmen that are either a single piece or have like two halves that need assembly. But official painted things, or things that are guaranteed to not have the paintjob suck? Not sure.

Those bulk Guardsmen don't help you either given that it's probably the painting that costs more time than the assembly.

[Jetan]

I know this sounds stupid, but I wish you could buy built and painted models new instead of buying them new in pieces and unpainted, or buying them second-hand already put together and painted up.

Is there a spefic reason for that? Because if it's either the time it takes to paint or the difficulty of it, there's easy ways to migitate that. Some armies work very well with colour primer (army painter is better than gw) followed by simple painting of the areas you want to be different colour, followed by quickshade, and when that's dry anti-shine varnish if you dislike the glossy finish of the quickshade (personally I don't use it because I like the gloss). It won't be mindblowing, obviously, but easily produces good looking game minis.

[Nyte]

If you have the money, you could just commission a complete painted army from a company like Blue Table Painting. They'll order it, assemble it, convert it, and paint it for you... I have no idea what that would run you though. I imagine it wouldn't be cheap though..

[Jetan]

If you have the money, you could just commission a complete painted army from a company like Blue Table Painting. They'll order it, assemble it, convert it, and paint it for you... I have no idea what that would run you though. I imagine it wouldn't be cheap though..

Battle brush studios is worth checking too if you go that road. Sigur is great painter and swell dude to boot.

http://www.battlebrushstudios.com/?m=1

[Crookfur]

I know this sounds stupid, but I wish you could buy built and painted models new instead of buying them new in pieces and unpainted, or buying them second-hand already put together and painted up.

For better or for worse this is not the model GW have ever used they have always been very much about the "complete hobby" aspect, heck even when they teamed up with MB to make kids board games the boxes were decorated with wonderfully painted versions of the peices.

There have been a fair few companies who have tried the fully ready to go or snap together minis route but none have ever really had much traction appart from x-wing or the one that were really more collectable trading in nature (ie blind boxes etc).

It's basically the same question my dad asked when I started messing around with Warhammer 20 odd years ago and I think the answer is that GW make too much money relying in you to do the work to ever change.

[Lord Tothe]

I know this sounds stupid, but I wish you could buy built and painted models new instead of buying them new in pieces and unpainted, or buying them second-hand already put together and painted up.

The point of the GW model is to allow customization by the player. Admittedly, this makes it hard for Ork, IG, and Nid players who need to field hordes of basic troops.

As far as I'm concerned, you're free to use toy tanks and 1" prepainted modern or sci-fi infantry minis no matter where you find them in a game. I'm not a GW model purist so long as the scale is close and the model represents WYSIWYG.

[Genivaria]

I might be alone in this but I strongly believe we should see Guardsmen squad equivalents in the armies of both Chaos and Tau if and when those armies come out.

[Nyte]

I might be alone in this but I strongly believe we should see Guardsmen squad equivalents in the armies of both Chaos and Tau if and when those armies come out.

Chaos has an equivalent... Cultists.
And Tau have Firewarriors.

[Chedastan]

I might be alone in this but I strongly believe we should see Guardsmen squad equivalents in the armies of both Chaos and Tau if and when those armies come out.

Chaos has an equivalent... Cultists.

And Tau basically have guard infantry squads available to them if you use forge world.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

I might be alone in this but I strongly believe we should see Guardsmen squad equivalents in the armies of both Chaos and Tau if and when those armies come out.

>Tau
Already have Kroot, which are much more prevalent in their society than bunch of castrated humans.

[Space Pirate Ridley]

I'm currently trying to get into the lore of the Warhammer Fantasy universe (cause I already know some of the lore of 40k so why not?), and I find the Lizardmen lore to be quite interesting.

[Slorch]

I'm currently trying to get into the lore of the Warhammer Fantasy universe (cause I already know some of the lore of 40k so why not?), and I find the Lizardmen lore to be quite interesting.

Too bad it's not real anymore.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

I'm currently trying to get into the lore of the Warhammer Fantasy universe (cause I already know some of the lore of 40k so why not?), and I find the Lizardmen lore to be quite interesting.

Too bad it's not real anymore.

It's no less real than other works of fiction that aren't being worked on by the writers anymore.

[Crookfur]

Too bad it's not real anymore.

It's no less real than other works of fiction that aren't being worked on by the writers anymore.

And other than a lack of availability of stuff there is nothing to stop you playing in the "old world".

It will interesting to see how closely the aosta shift ends up resembling the mech warrior dark age move. Of course GW probably did the correct thing (from thier point of veiw) with a universe ending clean break rather than just a jump/shift that left room to be filled in.

[Jetan]

It's no less real than other works of fiction that aren't being worked on by the writers anymore.

And other than a lack of availability of stuff there is nothing to stop you playing in the "old world".

It will interesting to see how closely the aosta shift ends up resembling the mech warrior dark age move. Of course GW probably did the correct thing (from thier point of veiw) with a universe ending clean break rather than just a jump/shift that left room to be filled in.

That implies GW actually considers the the results of their actions beoynd "When we up the prices again we'll get more money per sold miniature!"

They've never done any real marketing or any kind of customer study, they haven't cared about their customers for years (arguably for a decade atleast) and they're delusional about their own bloody business and have no idea about how to run it properly.

[Crookfur]

And other than a lack of availability of stuff there is nothing to stop you playing in the "old world".

It will interesting to see how closely the aosta shift ends up resembling the mech warrior dark age move. Of course GW probably did the correct thing (from thier point of veiw) with a universe ending clean break rather than just a jump/shift that left room to be filled in.

That implies GW actually considers the the results of their actions beoynd "When we up the prices again we'll get more money per sold miniature!"

They've never done any real marketing or any kind of customer study, they haven't cared about their customers for years (arguably for a decade atleast) and they're delusional about their own bloody business and have no idea about how to run it properly.

To be honest I do miss ye olde annual survey. The prospect of winning one of every boxed product ensured the form got photocopied and sent away in double quick time.

Of course it would be interesting to find out what metrics GW use to gauge how stuff is going and how they gather them.

[The United Remnants of America]

That implies GW actually considers the the results of their actions beoynd "When we up the prices again we'll get more money per sold miniature!"

They've never done any real marketing or any kind of customer study, they haven't cared about their customers for years (arguably for a decade atleast) and they're delusional about their own bloody business and have no idea about how to run it properly.

To be honest I do miss ye olde annual survey. The prospect of winning one of every boxed product ensured the form got photocopied and sent away in double quick time.

Of course it would be interesting to find out what metrics GW use to gauge how stuff is going and how they gather them.

GW Response: "What metrics?"

[Bhikkustan]

On the topic of old world, have any of you seen this? They have 9th ed rules and army books for all the factions mentioned in the fluff like Araby and Cathay
http://warhammerarmiesproject.blogspot.co.nz/

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Gamesworkshop appears to be using a "money made per type of miniature", ie $10 million on Space Marine Tactical Squads, $5 million on Archaeon, etc.

[Crookfur]

To be honest I do miss ye olde annual survey. The prospect of winning one of every boxed product ensured the form got photocopied and sent away in double quick time.

Of course it would be interesting to find out what metrics GW use to gauge how stuff is going and how they gather them.

GW Response: "What metrics?"

Oh they will have somebody looking at metrics some where, its pretty much unavoidable these days.

That is not to say that the metrics they care about are the same as the ones we as fans/customers/stockists etc would like them to.

There is also probably somebody BPIing thier colleagues to death aswell.

[Bhikkustan]

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Please join this fantasy Rp.

[Lenehen]

Has anyone tried creating the Imperium of Man in Stellaris yet? I tried a peaceful playthrough and learnt the hard way not to trust the xeno.