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Are you picking up the new Shadowspear set?

Yes, I am, or I already have it!
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I'm still on the fence.
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No, I'm not interested in the set / the armies in it.
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Total votes : 26

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Lord Tothe
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Postby Lord Tothe » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:18 pm

Mantic has released an official list for ratkin and The Herd so Skaven and Beastmen players can run their WHFB armies in KoW. More GW racial integration lists are on the way, too.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:47 pm

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:52 pm

Lord Tothe wrote:Mantic has released an official list for ratkin and The Herd so Skaven and Beastmen players can run their WHFB armies in KoW. More GW racial integration lists are on the way, too.

Just another reason to get into KoW. The Emperor bless Mantic, for they are the true believers and continue his light in spite of the Daemon infested warp entity that is GW.

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Postby Atelia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:33 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Lord Tothe wrote:Mantic has released an official list for ratkin and The Herd so Skaven and Beastmen players can run their WHFB armies in KoW. More GW racial integration lists are on the way, too.

Just another reason to get into KoW. The Emperor bless Mantic, for they are the true believers and continue his light in spite of the Daemon infested warp entity that is GW.

Mantic's models look absolutely atrocious.
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Postby Lord Tothe » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:45 pm

Atelia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Just another reason to get into KoW. The Emperor bless Mantic, for they are the true believers and continue his light in spite of the Daemon infested warp entity that is GW.

Mantic's models look absolutely atrocious.

Depends on which range, what you want aesthetically, and whether you value the ability to buy a lot more troops for a given price point. GW is not exactly immune to criticism, and Mantic has awesome undead models. The Basileans are a bit odd, but you are explicitly encouraged to also use models from other companies so you can use Roman legions or Aztec warriors in a Kingdoms of men army. Skip the magic users for your army list and it can even be a lightweight historical wargaming system.
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Postby Pragia » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:45 pm

Well, getting 2 lasrifle sections and a quad mortar from the solar auxilia. New game place is really chill, people want to fight 30k vs 40k, and solar auxilia is everything I want the guard to be and more.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:07 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWteWul9cBE

Battlefleet Gothic Armada gameplay trailer, looks pretty neat at its current state, hope its like this at release, its rare you get a good Warhammer good. Most are pretty meh or crap.
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:24 am

I think I've played too much Battlefield, I started painting Snow Reed Camo on the gun of one of my Inquisition Stormtroopers/Scions today...
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Postby Lord Tothe » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:01 pm

Can anyone explain for me how the IG force org works? I read through the book, but it didn't make much sense at first reading.
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:00 pm

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Postby Morrdh » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:23 pm

Lord Tothe wrote:Can anyone explain for me how the IG force org works? I read through the book, but it didn't make much sense at first reading.


Whats causing you trouble?
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Postby Lord Tothe » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:28 pm

Morrdh wrote:
Lord Tothe wrote:Can anyone explain for me how the IG force org works? I read through the book, but it didn't make much sense at first reading.


Whats causing you trouble?

Well, Orks or Space Marines are fairly simple. In a troop slot you can designate a squad leader and give upgrades depending on size or unit type. An IG player was trying to explain how each troop choice could include a command squad and several troop squads that were somehow separate but together, along with their heavy weapon teams that counted as two bodies but one wound. Was I misunderstanding, or is it that convoluted?
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Postby Brickistan » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:41 am

Lord Tothe wrote:
Morrdh wrote:
Whats causing you trouble?

Well, Orks or Space Marines are fairly simple. In a troop slot you can designate a squad leader and give upgrades depending on size or unit type. An IG player was trying to explain how each troop choice could include a command squad and several troop squads that were somehow separate but together, along with their heavy weapon teams that counted as two bodies but one wound. Was I misunderstanding, or is it that convoluted?


Every "Troop Choice" for an Imperial Guard army consists of a number of squads. You always need an HQ squad and two Infantry Squads. In addition to that, you may add other squads such as more Infantry or Special / Heavy squads. Together they count as a single choice.

The heavy weapon team is simply two Guardsmen and a heavy weapon mounted on a single large base with two wounds and two attacks.

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Postby Hjalmarr » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:43 am

I need to get into Warhammer more. Anyone have some recommended readings? (I also wont be getting figurines because I can't paint and I have no friends).
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Postby Atelia » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:14 pm

Hjalmarr wrote:I need to get into Warhammer more. Anyone have some recommended readings? (I also wont be getting figurines because I can't paint and I have no friends).

Well if 40k the Eisenhorn series is pretty great.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:22 am

Atelia wrote:
Hjalmarr wrote:I need to get into Warhammer more. Anyone have some recommended readings? (I also wont be getting figurines because I can't paint and I have no friends).

Well if 40k the Eisenhorn series is pretty great.
Yeah Eisenhorn is a good read.

Gaunts Ghosts are also another great read, especially if you are a fan of the regular grunts and their stories, in this particular case constantly getting shit on by both their superiors and their enemies and thrown into all sorts of screwed up campaigns and battles.

Ciaphas Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM, is also another good one and has some good humour, its about an imperial commissar who really does not want to fight but gets constantly thrown into these situations where he ends up being a hero to people trying to survive.
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:54 am


Nice.

Maybe do a wash on the armor? I do like the models, and the colours you picked!
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Postby Pragia » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:09 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:

Nice.

Maybe do a wash on the armor? I do like the models, and the colours you picked!

I can wash over what i got right? Normally I hear base then wash then paint.

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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:11 am

Pragia wrote:
The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:Nice.

Maybe do a wash on the armor? I do like the models, and the colours you picked!

I can wash over what i got right? Normally I hear base then wash then paint.

You can wash over most things ;)
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Postby Ardavia » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:31 am

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:33 am



I really want one of those when they come out, I just don't have £250 to spare. :(
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:47 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:

I really want one of those when they come out, I just don't have £250 to spare. :(

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:38 am

I was wondering if anybody here was interested in Blood bowl. I was thinking maybe if there was interest we could get a group together on FUMBBL and RP about it.
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