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Are you picking up the new Shadowspear set?

Yes, I am, or I already have it!
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15%
I'm still on the fence.
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54%
No, I'm not interested in the set / the armies in it.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:35 am

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Got to use a baneblade for the first time in dawn of war and holy shit I thought the land raider was badass. Sure a baneblade can't deploy surprise terminators but by the Emperor I LIKE MAKING THINGS GO BOOM.

Which reminds me I keep forgetting to mention how much I enjoy the Astartes near reverence for the Imperial Guard. Like the Guard could be doing an utter shit job and an Astartes captain will be like "these men and women are the true heroes".


Real Astartes respect the Guard for having the balls to go into battle against mechas, demons, elf ninjas, sorcerers, sadomasochists, bloodthirsty fungi, terminators, and giant bugs with nothing but cardboard armor and flashlight guns.

IG weapons and armour are far better than people like to make them out to be tho
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:44 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Real Astartes respect the Guard for having the balls to go into battle against mechas, demons, elf ninjas, sorcerers, sadomasochists, bloodthirsty fungi, terminators, and giant bugs with nothing but cardboard armor and flashlight guns.

IG weapons and armour are far better than people like to make them out to be tho

Also it should be noted that mocking the high quality equipment of the Imperial Guards is considered treason and heresy.


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Chan Island
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Postby Chan Island » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:00 pm

Balican wrote:
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Holy Marsh
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Postby Holy Marsh » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:03 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Real Astartes respect the Guard for having the balls to go into battle against mechas, demons, elf ninjas, sorcerers, sadomasochists, bloodthirsty fungi, terminators, and giant bugs with nothing but cardboard armor and flashlight guns.

IG weapons and armour are far better than people like to make them out to be tho


They also have the highest quality wheelbarrow around. They need it to carry their adamantium balls around.
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The Imperial Reach
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:23 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Real Astartes respect the Guard for having the balls to go into battle against mechas, demons, elf ninjas, sorcerers, sadomasochists, bloodthirsty fungi, terminators, and giant bugs with nothing but cardboard armor and flashlight guns.

IG weapons and armour are far better than people like to make them out to be tho


When compared to other universes, yes. Within the 40k universe? Nah.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:25 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:IG weapons and armour are far better than people like to make them out to be tho


When compared to other universes, yes. Within the 40k universe? Nah.

The grenade launchers are decent and plasma guns are fantastic in most forms. The automatic lasguns used by their special forces are fantastic.
It could be a lot worse they could be organized as a secondary or even an auxiliary force
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:37 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
When compared to other universes, yes. Within the 40k universe? Nah.

The grenade launchers are decent and plasma guns are fantastic in most forms. The automatic lasguns used by their special forces are fantastic.
It could be a lot worse they could be organized as a secondary or even an auxiliary force


Oh, undoubtedly. But they're still the weakest fighting force in 40k, AFAIK.
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The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
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NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:10 pm

Weapon wise, yeah. Humanity is outclassed by a mile. Their only real advantage is their sheer numbers.
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The Imperial Reach
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:35 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Weapon wise, yeah. Humanity is outclassed by a mile. Their only real advantage is their sheer numbers.


Weapons, armor, vehicles, equipment, etc. The only reason humanity is even on even footing with the other races is because of their vastly superior numbers, enormous amount of territory, and of course they have super-soldiers to make up for the inferior biology of humanity when compared to literally every other race. If it weren't for the Space Marines the Imperium would have been lost ages ago. Valiant as the Guard might be, they are but mere mortals fighting mystical immortals, undead machines, violent invasive fungi, sadistic mystical immortals, literal fucking demons patronized by literal fucking gods, the only race that seems to understand that it's better to shoot your enemy before he gets into melee range than throw your fucking gun and ground and rush the bastard for a sword fight while screaming like a mad hyena, and of course the galaxy's equivalent of the Black Death in psychic bug form.

Credit where credit is due, the Guard can hold the line - and even sometimes push the line back - but they'd never be able to do it without the Space Marines to back them up here and there. I say this as a huge Guard fan, too.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
In the process of a massive retcon, like, massive
NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

My F7 Policy

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Impaled Nazarene
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:34 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Weapon wise, yeah. Humanity is outclassed by a mile. Their only real advantage is their sheer numbers.


Weapons, armor, vehicles, equipment, etc. The only reason humanity is even on even footing with the other races is because of their vastly superior numbers, enormous amount of territory, and of course they have super-soldiers to make up for the inferior biology of humanity when compared to literally every other race. If it weren't for the Space Marines the Imperium would have been lost ages ago. Valiant as the Guard might be, they are but mere mortals fighting mystical immortals, undead machines, violent invasive fungi, sadistic mystical immortals, literal fucking demons patronized by literal fucking gods, the only race that seems to understand that it's better to shoot your enemy before he gets into melee range than throw your fucking gun and ground and rush the bastard for a sword fight while screaming like a mad hyena, and of course the galaxy's equivalent of the Black Death in psychic bug form.

Credit where credit is due, the Guard can hold the line - and even sometimes push the line back - but they'd never be able to do it without the Space Marines to back them up here and there. I say this as a huge Guard fan, too.

When all else turns to shit by the hands of time and/or Games Workshop one thing that will remain immortal: We'd gladly die a statistic in a sea of dead bodies than most every other job in the 41st Millennium. Barring being flayed alive by Necrons or anything involving Dark Eldar there are few fates better than that of the Guardsmen.

tl;dr Games Workshop has done well with the Imperial Guard.
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Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:06 am

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:00 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:The Star-Gods have answered!

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Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."

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The Imperial Reach
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:27 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:The Star-Gods have answered!


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Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
In the process of a massive retcon, like, massive
NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:44 am

Flamers and their short range can't get me when I'm driving around on my sick new bike!
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:22 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:Flamers and their short range can't get me when I'm driving around on my sick new bike!


"Fuck you and your shitty bikes!" - Space Mongols, probably
Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
In the process of a massive retcon, like, massive
NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

My F7 Policy

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Postby Chan Island » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:41 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:The Star-Gods have answered!


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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:37 pm

The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:The Star-Gods have answered!

Wait, Genestealers can talk exactly like humans now?
Calgar and Co. are in for one hell of a wild ride.

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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:17 pm

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:
The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:The Star-Gods have answered!

Wait, Genestealers can talk exactly like humans now?
Calgar and Co. are in for one hell of a wild ride.

The human-looking cultists always could.
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Postby Tethys 13 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:45 pm

It is a shame but not particularly surprising that Games Workshop's two new "weekly" webcomics seem to have already gone on hiatus.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:17 am

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:
The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:The Star-Gods have answered!

Wait, Genestealers can talk exactly like humans now?
Calgar and Co. are in for one hell of a wild ride.


The whole "inflitrate and undermine human society from within" thing would be kinda hard to pull off it they weren't capable of human speech, wouldn't it?
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:53 am

Baltenstein wrote:
The Biggles Syndicate wrote:Wait, Genestealers can talk exactly like humans now?
Calgar and Co. are in for one hell of a wild ride.

The whole "inflitrate and undermine human society from within" thing would be kinda hard to pull off it they weren't capable of human speech, wouldn't it?

Also makes it harder to order pizza, and you can't have a proper Genestealer Cult without a steady supply of scrumptious pizza pies.


“Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent.”
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:11 am

Baltenstein wrote:
The Biggles Syndicate wrote:Wait, Genestealers can talk exactly like humans now?
Calgar and Co. are in for one hell of a wild ride.


The whole "inflitrate and undermine human society from within" thing would be kinda hard to pull off it they weren't capable of human speech, wouldn't it?

"Sergeant, status report"
"RAWGERAGLALALALAL"
"...."
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Imperial Reach » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:49 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:The whole "inflitrate and undermine human society from within" thing would be kinda hard to pull off it they weren't capable of human speech, wouldn't it?

Also makes it harder to order pizza, and you can't have a proper Genestealer Cult without a steady supply of scrumptious pizza pies.


The 40k universe is too dark for pizza to still exist. It would be suppressed by the Inquisition for bringing the otherwise suffering, complacent masses joy and happiness.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
In the process of a massive retcon, like, massive
NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

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Postby Crookfur » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:51 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:The whole "inflitrate and undermine human society from within" thing would be kinda hard to pull off it they weren't capable of human speech, wouldn't it?

Also makes it harder to order pizza, and you can't have a proper Genestealer Cult without a steady supply of scrumptious pizza pies.

Teenage mutant heretic cultists?
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