The Warhammer 40.000/Fantasy Discussion Thread Mk.II

[Valefore]

>meet that asshole Fulgrim
>fucking perfectionists
>fight him, probably gonna win because he's a bitch
>get decapitated
>ohshit.gif
>dies
>doesn't come back because I'm not a Perpetual, unlike that lucky bastard Vulkan
>Legion turns into crazy transhumanists
>can't stop them because I'm dead
>fucking perfectionists

Ferrus had the worst luck out of all the Primarchs, IMO.

Come to think of it, why did Fulgrim decapitate Ferrus entirely but only stabbed Rowboat in the neck?

Because Rowboat has the 40K equivalent of plot armor... I mean, he's Rowboat Girlyman; the head of GW's flagship Space Marine chapter.

[The Imperial Reach]

>meet that asshole Fulgrim
>fucking perfectionists
>fight him, probably gonna win because he's a bitch
>get decapitated
>ohshit.gif
>dies
>doesn't come back because I'm not a Perpetual, unlike that lucky bastard Vulkan
>Legion turns into crazy transhumanists
>can't stop them because I'm dead
>fucking perfectionists

Ferrus had the worst luck out of all the Primarchs, IMO.

Come to think of it, why did Fulgrim decapitate Ferrus entirely but only stabbed Rowboat in the neck?

Because even perfectionists can fuck up, Ferrus fought him with a damn wrench, Fulgrim is an arrogant twat, and Rowboat is arguably one of the stronger Primarchs. Plus, had he not been kept it stasis all this time it would have killed him.

Come to think of it, why did Fulgrim decapitate Ferrus entirely but only stabbed Rowboat in the neck?

Because Rowboat has the 40K equivalent of plot armor... I mean, he's Rowboat Girlyman; the head of GW's flagship Space Marine chapter.

That too.

[Tethys 13]

Because even perfectionists can fuck up, Ferrus fought him with a damn wrench, Fulgrim is an arrogant twat, and Rowboat is arguably one of the stronger Primarchs. Plus, had he not been kept it stasis all this time it would have killed him.

Actually Ferrus fought him with a flaming sword and kicked his arse, then a daemon sword took over Fulgrim's body and against his will made him win and decapitate his beloved brother.

[The Imperial Reach]

Why do half the races in the 40k universe see Mankind as weak, stupid, or just otherwise pathetic when they get their asses handed to them by Mankind on a regular basis? Because honestly it seems like the Imperium wins more fights than it losses and in spite of being the third most primitive race in the galaxy after the Orks and Tyranids, they manage to retain their status as the most powerful faction in the galaxy. Granted that sheer size, population statistics, and their abundance of resources contributes to this as well, the fact that such a primitive race can defy the most technologically advanced races altogether should give us a bit of credit.

If the Imperium wasn't fighting on 4 different fronts at the same time, it could probably single-handedly wipe out all the other factions save for the Tyranids, who are coming from beyond the galaxy and thus can't be neutralized as easily since we have no idea where they're coming from to begin with.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Numbers
Guns
Zealotry
Big fucking Guns
Walking or Flying Cathedrals with Guns

[Hurdergaryp]

Numbers
Guns
Zealotry
Big fucking Guns
Walking or Flying Cathedrals with Guns

Tau BFGs have longer range, though. Also the Greater Good. Do not call it xenos zealotry, for the Greater Good is absolutely flawless. You would not believe how Great this Greater Good is!

[Ameriganastan]

Why do half the races in the 40k universe see Mankind as weak, stupid, or just otherwise pathetic when they get their asses handed to them by Mankind on a regular basis? Because honestly it seems like the Imperium wins more fights than it losses and in spite of being the third most primitive race in the galaxy after the Orks and Tyranids, they manage to retain their status as the most powerful faction in the galaxy. Granted that sheer size, population statistics, and their abundance of resources contributes to this as well, the fact that such a primitive race can defy the most technologically advanced races altogether should give us a bit of credit.

If the Imperium wasn't fighting on 4 different fronts at the same time, it could probably single-handedly wipe out all the other factions save for the Tyranids, who are coming from beyond the galaxy and thus can't be neutralized as easily since we have no idea where they're coming from to begin with.

...Okay, someone has to say it. Do you know ANYTHING about this universe? Cause with your almost annoyingly constant posting, you seem to not know about some of the basic stuff.

And no, the Imperium is not winning more than it's losing. The only advantage the Imperium has is their near endless numbers of expendable foot-soldiers and the Space Marines. Beyond that, they're technologically stagnant, constantly infighting, destroying planets and so on and so forth.

[Hurdergaryp]

Why do half the races in the 40k universe see Mankind as weak, stupid, or just otherwise pathetic when they get their asses handed to them by Mankind on a regular basis? Because honestly it seems like the Imperium wins more fights than it losses and in spite of being the third most primitive race in the galaxy after the Orks and Tyranids, they manage to retain their status as the most powerful faction in the galaxy. Granted that sheer size, population statistics, and their abundance of resources contributes to this as well, the fact that such a primitive race can defy the most technologically advanced races altogether should give us a bit of credit.

If the Imperium wasn't fighting on 4 different fronts at the same time, it could probably single-handedly wipe out all the other factions save for the Tyranids, who are coming from beyond the galaxy and thus can't be neutralized as easily since we have no idea where they're coming from to begin with.

...Okay, someone has to say it. Do you know ANYTHING about this universe? Cause with your almost annoyingly constant posting, you seem to not know about some of the basic stuff.

And no, the Imperium is not winning more than it's losing. The only advantage the Imperium has is their near endless numbers of expendable foot-soldiers and the Space Marines. Beyond that, they're technologically stagnant, constantly infighting, destroying planets and so on and so forth.

And this is where someone is supposed to scream "Heresy!", resulting in a pleasant visit by the Imperial Inquisition which shall not lead to large scale slaughter at all. Just close your eyes and think of the Emperor, citizen!

[Morrdh]

...Okay, someone has to say it. Do you know ANYTHING about this universe? Cause with your almost annoyingly constant posting, you seem to not know about some of the basic stuff.

And no, the Imperium is not winning more than it's losing. The only advantage the Imperium has is their near endless numbers of expendable foot-soldiers and the Space Marines. Beyond that, they're technologically stagnant, constantly infighting, destroying planets and so on and so forth.

And this is where someone is supposed to scream "Heresy!", resulting in a pleasant visit by the Imperial Inquisition which shall not lead to large scale slaughter at all. Just close your eyes and think of the Emperor, citizen!

HERESY!!!

[The Imperial Reach]

Why do half the races in the 40k universe see Mankind as weak, stupid, or just otherwise pathetic when they get their asses handed to them by Mankind on a regular basis? Because honestly it seems like the Imperium wins more fights than it losses and in spite of being the third most primitive race in the galaxy after the Orks and Tyranids, they manage to retain their status as the most powerful faction in the galaxy. Granted that sheer size, population statistics, and their abundance of resources contributes to this as well, the fact that such a primitive race can defy the most technologically advanced races altogether should give us a bit of credit.

If the Imperium wasn't fighting on 4 different fronts at the same time, it could probably single-handedly wipe out all the other factions save for the Tyranids, who are coming from beyond the galaxy and thus can't be neutralized as easily since we have no idea where they're coming from to begin with.

...Okay, someone has to say it. Do you know ANYTHING about this universe? Cause with your almost annoyingly constant posting, you seem to not know about some of the basic stuff.

And no, the Imperium is not winning more than it's losing. The only advantage the Imperium has is their near endless numbers of expendable foot-soldiers and the Space Marines. Beyond that, they're technologically stagnant, constantly infighting, destroying planets and so on and so forth.

1. Yes, I know quite a bit about it at this point. I'm sorry, do I not know enough? Does my lack of sufficient knowledge displease you? I'm sorry I can't be bothered to learn every single detail about a fictional universe that's been constantly developing for the last 50 years. I'm sorry I can't understand every aspect of a series that takes world-building to such a maximum extreme that it painstakingly describes - in 200 words or more - what every established character's favorite Nintendo game is.

2. You misunderstood what I said entirely. I was talking about individual engagements, not in the entire grand scheme of things. Because yes, long-term the Imperium is losing terribly because of it's own corruption, inefficiency, and general incompetence. But I wasn't referring to the long-term, but rather individual wars and battles which are often end in an Imperial victory (even if a Pyrrhic one).

[Hurdergaryp]

And this is where someone is supposed to scream "Heresy!", resulting in a pleasant visit by the Imperial Inquisition which shall not lead to large scale slaughter at all. Just close your eyes and think of the Emperor, citizen!

HERESY!!!

Clearly a necessary sacrifice in order to protect the sacred Imperium.

[Ameriganastan]

1. Yes, I know quite a bit about it at this point. I'm sorry, do I not know enough? Does my lack of sufficient knowledge displease you? I'm sorry I can't be bothered to learn every single detail about a fictional universe that's been constantly developing for the last 50 years.

...50 years? 40K came out in 1987.

2. You misunderstood what I said entirely. I was talking about individual engagements, not in the entire grand scheme of things. Because yes, long-term the Imperium is losing terribly because of it's own corruption, inefficiency, and general incompetence. But I wasn't referring to the long-term, but rather individual wars and battles which are often end in an Imperial victory (even if a Pyrrhic one).

And those 'Individual engagement' usually end with casualties beyond measure and a worthless chunk of rock that will be invaded again later anyway.

[Hurdergaryp]

1. Yes, I know quite a bit about it at this point. I'm sorry, do I not know enough? Does my lack of sufficient knowledge displease you? I'm sorry I can't be bothered to learn every single detail about a fictional universe that's been constantly developing for the last 50 years.

...50 years? 40K came out in 1987.

But it sure as hell feels like fifty years.

[Northern Davincia]

...50 years? 40K came out in 1987.

But it sure as hell feels like fity years.

Or 40,000.
*badumptiss*

[Hurdergaryp]

But it sure as hell feels like fity years.

Or 40,000.
*badumptiss*

That's about the time you need when you try to assemble and paint all the miniatures you own.

[Ameriganastan]

Or 40,000.
*badumptiss*

That's about the time you need when you try to assemble and paint all the miniatures you own.

And about how much money it costs to buy all that stuff.

[The Imperial Reach]

1. Yes, I know quite a bit about it at this point. I'm sorry, do I not know enough? Does my lack of sufficient knowledge displease you? I'm sorry I can't be bothered to learn every single detail about a fictional universe that's been constantly developing for the last 50 years.

...50 years? 40K came out in 1987.

My bad, I meant 30 years.

And those 'Individual engagement' usually end with casualties beyond measure and a worthless chunk of rock that will be invaded again later anyway.

I know. I already said that.

[The Biggles Syndicate]

Numbers
Guns
Zealotry
Big fucking Guns
Walking or Flying Cathedrals with Guns

Don't forget the 8 foot tall demonic manchild who has a gigantic planet-killing cathedral.

[Crookfur]

Why do half the races in the 40k universe see Mankind as weak, stupid, or just otherwise pathetic when they get their asses handed to them by Mankind on a regular basis? Because honestly it seems like the Imperium wins more fights than it losses and in spite of being the third most primitive race in the galaxy after the Orks and Tyranids, they manage to retain their status as the most powerful faction in the galaxy. Granted that sheer size, population statistics, and their abundance of resources contributes to this as well, the fact that such a primitive race can defy the most technologically advanced races altogether should give us a bit of credit.

If the Imperium wasn't fighting on 4 different fronts at the same time, it could probably single-handedly wipe out all the other factions save for the Tyranids, who are coming from beyond the galaxy and thus can't be neutralized as easily since we have no idea where they're coming from to begin with.

Because as stupidly xenophobic as the Imperium is every one else is even worse.
To be honest every race capable of actual rational thought knows only too well how easily mankind could wipe them out if they chose to do so.

Oddly enough the only race to come close to liking humanity would be the Orks as da hummies can be relied upon to put up a damned good fight.

[Baltenstein]

Why do half the races in the 40k universe see Mankind as weak, stupid, or just otherwise pathetic when they get their asses handed to them by Mankind on a regular basis?

Depends on which races you are talking about.

Eldar: As they say, "their arrogance is only surpassed by their firepower". One should not confuse their age and finesse with wisdom and deeper understanding. They are, at their core, every bit as racist and genocidal as the Imperium.

Orks: Orks don't really think much beyond the present situation they are in, and with that in mind, the individual human is kinda weak and pathetic compared to the individual Ork.

Necrons: Their technology is millions of years ahead of mankind, and from their perspective, it's kinda like waking up after a long nap and finding your house swarming with pests. I don't think your average house-owner holds pests in high regard.

Tau: The thing they disdain the most is the Imperium's religious fanaticism. When it comes to comparing muscles however, they are probably aware at this point that the Imperium's militarily might completely dwarfs the Tau's and that they should proceed with the Tau Empire's expansion by being very careful not to overstep certain boundaries.

Most other sapient Xeno species are probably scared shitless of the Imperium and try to avoid its attention in any way possible.

[Isilanka]

Why do half the races in the 40k universe see Mankind as weak, stupid, or just otherwise pathetic when they get their asses handed to them by Mankind on a regular basis?

Depends on which races you are talking about.

Eldar: As they say, "their arrogance is only surpassed by their firepower". One should not confuse their age and finesse with wisdom and deeper understanding. They are, at their core, every bit as racist and genocidal as the Imperium.

Orks: Orks don't really think much beyond the present situation they are in, and with that in mind, the individual human is kinda weak and pathetic compared to the individual Ork.

Necrons: Their technology is millions of years ahead of mankind, and from their perspective, it's kinda like waking up after a long nap and finding your house swarming with pests. I don't think your average house-owner holds pests in high regard.

Tau: The thing they disdain the most is the Imperium's religious fanaticism. When it comes to comparing muscles however, they are probably aware at this point that the Imperium's militarily might completely dwarfs the Tau's and that they should proceed with the Tau Empire's expansion by being very careful not to overstep certain boundaries.

Most other sapient Xeno species are probably scared shitless of the Imperium and try to avoid its attention in any way possible.

I've always liked the idea of some dark age of technology humans remnants still lurking around and basically thinking to themselves "I'm not touching that mess with a kilometer-long pole".

[Morrdh]

Tau: The thing they disdain the most is the Imperium's religious fanaticism. When it comes to comparing muscles however, they are probably aware at this point that the Imperium's militarily might completely dwarfs the Tau's and that they should proceed with the Tau Empire's expansion by being very careful not to overstep certain boundaries.

Think the Tau were pretty humbled in the Last Chancers books when they found out the average population of a Hive City.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Tau: The thing they disdain the most is the Imperium's religious fanaticism.

Funny coming from the guys with the rigid devotion to their ideology.

[The Imperial Reach]

So the Sisters of Battle exclusively recruits pyromaniacs, right? I'm basing this on the fact that just about every weapon - and even some non-weapons - in their arsenal is fire-based.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

So the Sisters of Battle exclusively recruits pyromaniacs, right? I'm basing this on the fact that just about every weapon - and even some non-weapons - in their arsenal is fire-based.

It's nurture, not nature; they're handed a flamer and told,"This is your new boyfriend, your father, your mother, your brother, your fucktoy, and the only way Sanguinius will ever hear you. Have fun."