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by The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:37 am
P2TM Mentor
by Guardians of the Holy Bowling Alley » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:24 pm
by The Imperial Reach » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:34 pm
Hurdergaryp wrote:The Imperial Reach wrote:The Emperor frowns upon such heretical notions.
Because if there's one thing the Imperium is known for, it's the absolutely unrestricted free trade of goods and services, utterly unhindered by the vast bureaucracy and rigid dogmas so common in the realm of Man.
by Hurdergaryp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:46 pm
The Imperial Reach wrote:Hurdergaryp wrote:Because if there's one thing the Imperium is known for, it's the absolutely unrestricted free trade of goods and services, utterly unhindered by the vast bureaucracy and rigid dogmas so common in the realm of Man.
You're right, the Emperor is very clearly a Socialist.
/s
by Northern Davincia » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:20 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Impaled Nazarene » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:36 pm
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Chan Island » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:55 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by The Imperial Reach » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:59 pm
by Herador » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:39 pm
by Baltenstein » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:54 am
by Baltenstein » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:58 am
by Crookfur » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:35 am
Baltenstein wrote:
I like the poses, but not sure about the new heads/helmet. Their exaggeratedly evil/demonic looking visages seem to be a throwback to the old 2nd Edi CSM.
I like the dude who is holding his ammo belt with one hand in particular though. Seems like the sort of rad weapon usage you'd never see an Ultramarine do.
Also I'm wondering, Are those OldMarine-sized or Primaris-sized?
by The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:43 am
Baltenstein wrote:
I like the poses, but not sure about the new heads/helmet. Their exaggeratedly evil/demonic looking visages seem to be a throwback to the old 2nd Edi CSM.
I like the dude who is holding his ammo belt with one hand in particular though. Seems like the sort of rad weapon usage you'd never see an Ultramarine do.
Also I'm wondering, Are those OldMarine-sized or Primaris-sized?
P2TM Mentor
by New Visayan Islands » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:46 am
by Baltenstein » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:02 am
The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:Baltenstein wrote:
I like the poses, but not sure about the new heads/helmet. Their exaggeratedly evil/demonic looking visages seem to be a throwback to the old 2nd Edi CSM.
I like the dude who is holding his ammo belt with one hand in particular though. Seems like the sort of rad weapon usage you'd never see an Ultramarine do.
Also I'm wondering, Are those OldMarine-sized or Primaris-sized?
In between, like the new Death Guard and Thousand Sons models, I reckon.
Primaris Marines can still use regular Marine heads and shoulders as well. These guys aren't that size (saw the Shadowspear ones in store today together with the Vanguard Primaris) but they're definitely bigger than the old ones as well.
by Guardians of the Holy Bowling Alley » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:34 pm
Baltenstein wrote:Simply put, there are four big conditions that a planetary government whose world is part of the Imperium absolutely has to fulfill and which are non-negotiable on the Imperium's part:
1.) Pay your regular tithes (be they financial payments, goods/resources and/or new recruits for the IG)
2.) Honor the Imperial Creed (how strictly this one is enforced is up to how much sway the Adeptus Ministorum has in that particular system)
3.) Don't get cozy with Xenos
4.) Keep tabs on your psyker population and report them to the Inquisition
Beyound that, there really aren't many regulations on the cultural, financial and political governance of an Imperial world. One can imagine planets run by socialist communes, Fascist military juntas, hyper-libertarian corporate paradises and centrist multi-party parliamentary systems. The Imperium is fairly laissez-faire in that regard.
by The Imperial Reach » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:06 am
Guardians of the Holy Bowling Alley wrote:Baltenstein wrote:Simply put, there are four big conditions that a planetary government whose world is part of the Imperium absolutely has to fulfill and which are non-negotiable on the Imperium's part:
1.) Pay your regular tithes (be they financial payments, goods/resources and/or new recruits for the IG)
2.) Honor the Imperial Creed (how strictly this one is enforced is up to how much sway the Adeptus Ministorum has in that particular system)
3.) Don't get cozy with Xenos
4.) Keep tabs on your psyker population and report them to the Inquisition
Beyound that, there really aren't many regulations on the cultural, financial and political governance of an Imperial world. One can imagine planets run by socialist communes, Fascist military juntas, hyper-libertarian corporate paradises and centrist multi-party parliamentary systems. The Imperium is fairly laissez-faire in that regard.
Well it seems to me that the Imperium would probably be much more centralized and totalitarian if it could actually manage it. In practice, its not really a viable option due to the extreme size of the Imperium and the unreliability as well as immense time it can often take for interplanetary communication/travel. In a sense, it is kind of like the late Roman Empire (which is almost certainly not a coincidence).
by The Imperial Reach » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:08 am
by Impaled Nazarene » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:16 am
The Imperial Reach wrote:Guardians of the Holy Bowling Alley wrote:
Well it seems to me that the Imperium would probably be much more centralized and totalitarian if it could actually manage it. In practice, its not really a viable option due to the extreme size of the Imperium and the unreliability as well as immense time it can often take for interplanetary communication/travel. In a sense, it is kind of like the late Roman Empire (which is almost certainly not a coincidence).
But that would mean Holy Terra is the city of Rome and is thus on the verge of being sacked by invaders from the nor-
Oh.
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Guardians of the Holy Bowling Alley » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:58 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:59 am
by Baltenstein » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:10 pm
by Impaled Nazarene » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:19 pm
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by The Imperial Reach » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:40 pm
by Chan Island » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:05 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
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