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by The Huskar Social Union » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:50 pm
by Torrocca » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:51 pm
The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:New Skaven and Flesh Eater Courts coming next week!
by Kowani » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:52 pm
by Impaled Nazarene » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:52 pm
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:56 pm
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by Crookfur » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:47 pm
Torrocca wrote:The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:New Skaven and Flesh Eater Courts coming next week!
>Skaven
No such thing exists. Why are you spreading these decrepit lies within our lands?
by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:31 am
by Jetan » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:27 am
Crookfur wrote:Torrocca wrote:
>Skaven
No such thing exists. Why are you spreading these decrepit lies within our lands?
I know aos is generally focused on smaller model counts but it still strikes me as a bit weird that the skaven in the box seems to just be a few super weapons/monsters rather than ye olde skaven horde.
I suppose its one way to contrast them with what looks like some kind of ghoul army(not really kept up with aos so I'm assuming these are some kind of undead faction).
by The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:37 am
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by Baltenstein » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:38 pm
by Torrocca » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:44 pm
Baltenstein wrote:
The whole "What does your average Imperial actually know about Chaos" has always been treated with considerable authorial variation in the fluff.
Sometimes the Inquisition orders Exerminatus on an entire planet because there might be somebody on it who might have heard some rumors about strange warp creatures.
And sometimes it's as if every lowly Guardsman is a well-read expert in demonology and Chaos Legions.
by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:14 pm
Baltenstein wrote:
The whole "What does your average Imperial actually know about Chaos" has always been treated with considerable authorial variation in the fluff.
Sometimes the Inquisition orders Exerminatus on an entire planet because there might be somebody on it who might have heard some rumors about strange warp creatures.
And sometimes it's as if every lowly Guardsman is a well-read expert in demonology and Chaos Legions.
by Crookfur » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:37 pm
Torrocca wrote:Baltenstein wrote:
The whole "What does your average Imperial actually know about Chaos" has always been treated with considerable authorial variation in the fluff.
Sometimes the Inquisition orders Exerminatus on an entire planet because there might be somebody on it who might have heard some rumors about strange warp creatures.
And sometimes it's as if every lowly Guardsman is a well-read expert in demonology and Chaos Legions.
I'd chalk that simply up to the vastness of the Imperium, tbh. Some Imperial Guard from the recently-created Cadian Asteroid Belt would undoubtedly be much more familiarized and knowledgable on Chaos than, say, an Imperial Guard on Terra. Ditto for why Inquisitorial responses are so wildly varied.
by Hurdergaryp » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:36 pm
Crookfur wrote:Torrocca wrote:I'd chalk that simply up to the vastness of the Imperium, tbh. Some Imperial Guard from the recently-created Cadian Asteroid Belt would undoubtedly be much more familiarized and knowledgable on Chaos than, say, an Imperial Guard on Terra. Ditto for why Inquisitorial responses are so wildly varied.
IIRC there is a general knowledge that servants of the Archenemy exist and whilst the heresy and the existence of the traitor legions might not be common knowledge they certainly haven't been scrubbed from the records in the way a lot of stuff has. As such I expect most commisars and all but the most junior of gaurd officers know sonething about them.
by Chan Island » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:35 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Baltenstein wrote:
The whole "What does your average Imperial actually know about Chaos" has always been treated with considerable authorial variation in the fluff.
Sometimes the Inquisition orders Exerminatus on an entire planet because there might be somebody on it who might have heard some rumors about strange warp creatures.
And sometimes it's as if every lowly Guardsman is a well-read expert in demonology and Chaos Legions.
"The fuck is that thing!?"
"I believe sergeant that is actually a greater warp demon known as the Keeper of Secrets, a greater demon in service to the Chaos god of ecstasy, depravity and pleasure Slaanesh"
"....the fuck you know that"
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Herador » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:59 am
Baltenstein wrote:
The whole "What does your average Imperial actually know about Chaos" has always been treated with considerable authorial variation in the fluff.
Sometimes the Inquisition orders Exerminatus on an entire planet because there might be somebody on it who might have heard some rumors about strange warp creatures.
And sometimes it's as if every lowly Guardsman is a well-read expert in demonology and Chaos Legions.
by Baltenstein » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:34 am
Herador wrote:Baltenstein wrote:
The whole "What does your average Imperial actually know about Chaos" has always been treated with considerable authorial variation in the fluff.
Sometimes the Inquisition orders Exerminatus on an entire planet because there might be somebody on it who might have heard some rumors about strange warp creatures.
And sometimes it's as if every lowly Guardsman is a well-read expert in demonology and Chaos Legions.
I always liked Abnett's approach in... whichever Gaunts Ghost novel had the Regiment going back to Gereon. The one demon we ever get to really see in combat is horrifying, wrecks everything, and fucks the whole battle up. But, no one brings everything to a screeching halt and ends an entire front of the Crusade to kill everyone involved.
by Jetan » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:08 am
by The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:35 am
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by Jetan » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:47 am
by The Biggles Syndicate » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:49 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:03 am
The Biggles Syndicate wrote:I heard there's a book with the Rangdan coming out with a few other short stories, including Morty and pre-finding Gman. Where can I get them?
by The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:55 am
Jetan wrote:The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:Nope, they're not. You might not like it, yourself, but I'm honestly pretty sick and tired of getting screamed at for committing the Thought Crime of having Wrong Bad Fun with my little plastic toy soldiers.
Firstly, I'm not screaming at anyone. Secondly, this is one of those rare cases where your fun (AoS) is detrimental to other people's fun (WFB), so, yeah. You might like it, yourself, but that doesn't make it equal to Fantasy.
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by Jetan » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:34 am
The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness wrote:Jetan wrote:Firstly, I'm not screaming at anyone. Secondly, this is one of those rare cases where your fun (AoS) is detrimental to other people's fun (WFB), so, yeah. You might like it, yourself, but that doesn't make it equal to Fantasy.
Nah, but every time someone mentions AoS there's always someone jumping out of the woodwork to tell everyone how awful it is.
It is, in fact, quite detrimental towards the fun of people who enjoy AoS. It's perfectly fine that you prefer a game with blocks of 100 miniatures facing off against blocks of a good ole 200 skaven slave miniatures - others don't. Doesn't mean that the system that doesn't feature that is ass. The continues circlejerk in parts of the community about how awful it all is because it isn't WHFB is extremely tiresome and usually founded on the game as it was on release to boot.
by Impaled Nazarene » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:41 pm
Baltenstein wrote:Herador wrote:I always liked Abnett's approach in... whichever Gaunts Ghost novel had the Regiment going back to Gereon. The one demon we ever get to really see in combat is horrifying, wrecks everything, and fucks the whole battle up. But, no one brings everything to a screeching halt and ends an entire front of the Crusade to kill everyone involved.
Yeah, the fluff from the 2nd Edition Codex Imperialis, which, if I'm not mistaken, was the fluff source where Imperial policies on that matter were portrayed at their most extreme ("Every survivor of a battle against the forces of Chaos gets executed, every Space Marine gets his memory erased, and if there isn't complete certainty that no witnesses exist anymore, drop an Exterminatus on the entire planet") was progressively toned down in later fluff publications. The writers probably figured that it would cause too many contradictions and unresolved questions if the Imperial approach were to be that absolute.
That said, I can totally see the Ordo Malleus disappearing Astra Militarum regiments from uneducated backwater planets after examining them and deciding that they were too heavily contaminated by their contact to Chaos but in general, I imagine that most Space Marine chapters and Astra Militarum authorities will be aware of Chaos and have some notion or basic knowledge about its forces and capabilities.
Especially now, where the realm of Chaos pretty much reaches from one end of the Milky Way to the other.
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
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