The Warhammer 40.000/Fantasy Discussion Thread Mk.II

[The Huskar Social Union]

Yes Arbite, these two here. They are disturbing the emperors peace.

[The Imperial Reach]

No, I was saying what you said was dumb. If it had been flaming I would have called you - not what you said - dumb. But I didn't, ergo it isn't flaming. I attacked the argument; not the poster. You said something stupid, so I called it stupid. Not YOU, but YOUR ARGUMENT.

Horseshit.

"There are inbred peasants on hive worlds that spout less nonsense than this."
You are saying that I am dumber than said inbred peasant and thus it is flaming.

No, you just misinterpreted it and are continuing to do so.

I did not say that you were dumber than an inbred peasant, I said what you said was dumber than what an inbred peasant would say. You can say dumb things without being dumb, y'know.

[Ameriganastan]

Saying that I am literally worse than an inbred city slum peasant is flaming. Don't act like that isn't what was said.

Not according to the moderators. I took this little argument to moderation, and it's been ruled not flaming.

My point of view: It isn't flaming. It's not implied that anybody is inferior to a peasant. It's an overly harsh assessment of an argument and not an attack on a person.

If things escalate to the point where people are starting to troll or flame, let us know.

So let's all just move on and talk about 40K.

[Hurdergaryp]

Yes Arbite, these two here. They are disturbing the emperors peace.

And we all know that in the grim darkness of the far future, there is no such thing as police brutality. Blunt force trauma is an integral part of the regular procedure.

[Chan Island]

Yes Arbite, these two here. They are disturbing the emperors peace.

And we all know that in the grim darkness of the far future, there is no such thing as police brutality. Blunt force trauma is an integral part of the regular procedure.

I've just realised upon reading this; but surely the Arbites must have officers who aren't violent thugs? Like, how else are they going to deal with illegally parked cars or white collar crime? I now want to know how the Imperium (or at least one planet in the Imperium) deals with those scenarios. Does the inquisition launch exterminatus on your Mercedes if it's been found half an hour over the time limit?

[Crookfur]

And we all know that in the grim darkness of the far future, there is no such thing as police brutality. Blunt force trauma is an integral part of the regular procedure.

I've just realised upon reading this; but surely the Arbites must have officers who aren't violent thugs? Like, how else are they going to deal with illegally parked cars or white collar crime? I now want to know how the Imperium (or at least one planet in the Imperium) deals with those scenarios. Does the inquisition launch exterminatus on your Mercedes if it's been found half an hour over the time limit?

Does your crime directly affect the function of the world in its role in the imperium?
If no the arbiters really don't care but if so then you are fucked.

Of course if you parked your car in such way that contravenes 10,000 years of imperial law by say having a wheel one inch outside of the emperor dictated limits of a standard parking space then it's power maul time.

In all seriousness white collar crime is a major focus of imperial law and to be in position to carry it out you probably have to be breaking oaths of perfection or at least be responsible for others breaking theirs. It also interferes with the imperial bottom line the protection of which is the arbites' main task.

Actual law enforcement will vary tremendously. I imagine hive worlds are policed almost exactly like the mega cities in judge Dredd whilst feudal and agri worlds rely on local "sheriffs" that function like thier relevant historical equivekents.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

If I recall correctly, Arbites are mostly there to make sure the Imperial Governor does their job, with local law enforcement being responsible for day-to-day and the usual law enforcement practices, with the Arbites only stepping in if necessary?

[Crookfur]

If I recall correctly, Arbites are mostly there to make sure the Imperial Governor does their job, with local law enforcement being responsible for day-to-day and the usual law enforcement practices, with the Arbites only stepping in if necessary?

That's pretty much it but this being 40k things are never that simple.

It seems a shame that whilst the genestealer cultists are finally getting a revamp we aren't getting similar for thier natural enemies ie the arbites and inquisitors. Well unless that's to come off the back of the plastic sisters...

[The Biggles Syndicate]

I wonder what it would have been like from Gman's perspective when he was found? What do you think he saw?

[Jetan]

I wonder what it would have been like from Gman's perspective when he was found? What do you think he saw?

A failed, chaotic shitshow.

[The Biggles Syndicate]

I wonder what it would have been like from Gman's perspective when he was found? What do you think he saw?

A failed, chaotic shitshow.

I meant during the Great Crusade. But for his resurrection, I suppose that works.

[Spirit of Hope]

If I recall correctly, Arbites are mostly there to make sure the Imperial Governor does their job, with local law enforcement being responsible for day-to-day and the usual law enforcement practices, with the Arbites only stepping in if necessary?

I always saw it as the Arbites were sort of like the FBI in the US, responsible for dealing with breaches of Imperial law. Local planetary law enforcement would deal with any local laws. Now given what a mess the imperial legal system is car parking might be a violation of imperial law and securities fraud might be a local matter.

Lest we forget there is a branch of the inquisition dedicated to hunting down scribes whom make mistakes.

[The Imperial Reach]

If I recall correctly, Arbites are mostly there to make sure the Imperial Governor does their job, with local law enforcement being responsible for day-to-day and the usual law enforcement practices, with the Arbites only stepping in if necessary?

I always saw it as the Arbites were sort of like the FBI in the US, responsible for dealing with breaches of Imperial law. Local planetary law enforcement would deal with any local laws. Now given what a mess the imperial legal system is car parking might be a violation of imperial law and securities fraud might be a local matter.

Lest we forget there is a branch of the inquisition dedicated to hunting down scribes whom make mistakes.

The Imperium is so plagued by bureaucracy that even a Byzantine Emperor would have an allergic reaction to it. For all we know, putting anchovies on pizza is a violation of Imperial Law.

If not, then it should be.

[Crookfur]

I always saw it as the Arbites were sort of like the FBI in the US, responsible for dealing with breaches of Imperial law. Local planetary law enforcement would deal with any local laws. Now given what a mess the imperial legal system is car parking might be a violation of imperial law and securities fraud might be a local matter.

Lest we forget there is a branch of the inquisition dedicated to hunting down scribes whom make mistakes.

The Imperium is so plagued by bureaucracy that even a Byzantine Emperor would have an allergic reaction to it. For all we know, putting anchovies on pizza is a violation of Imperial Law.

If not, then it should be.

Oh I'm sure it is but only on everyother Thursday...

[The Biggles Syndicate]

How many days until the Vigilus thing happens again? Is there an active timer somewhere?

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

How many days until the Vigilus thing happens again? Is there an active timer somewhere?

There's no official active timer anywhere, but;
44 days to go, as of writing.

[The Huskar Social Union]

What is this vigilus thing? Ive only really heard the name but nothing else. Is it a new campaign or something they are doing

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Yeah it's a campaign continuing the story further along.

The planet of Vigilus is a bastion/fortress world that sits on one of the few navigatable warp routes that connect the different halves of the Imperium with each other, and as such is obviously a pretty important world. There's an Ork Waaaagh in the wastes of the world, a Genestealer Cult uprising, the occasional Eldar raids, a massive amount of Imperial forces (led by the new Primaris Marneus Calgar), and Chaos is trying to take it out as well, led by a dude who has promised to Abaddon he'd take the world within 80 days.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Yeah it's a campaign continuing the story further along.

The planet of Vigilus is a bastion/fortress world that sits on one of the few navigatable warp routes that connect the different halves of the Imperium with each other, and as such is obviously a pretty important world. There's an Ork Waaaagh in the wastes of the world, a Genestealer Cult uprising, the occasional Eldar raids, a massive amount of Imperial forces (led by the new Primaris Marneus Calgar), and Chaos is trying to take it out as well, led by a dude who has promised to Abaddon he'd take the world within 80 days.

Oh neat.

[Balican]

Yeah it's a campaign continuing the story further along.

The planet of Vigilus is a bastion/fortress world that sits on one of the few navigatable warp routes that connect the different halves of the Imperium with each other, and as such is obviously a pretty important world. There's an Ork Waaaagh in the wastes of the world, a Genestealer Cult uprising, the occasional Eldar raids, a massive amount of Imperial forces (led by the new Primaris Marneus Calgar), and Chaos is trying to take it out as well, led by a dude who has promised to Abaddon he'd take the world within 80 days.

I love that right after the Eldar revived Guilliman the Imperials attacked them on Vigilus, getting rid of their only potential allies in that situation.

[Jetan]

I assume you guys remember the old Tale of Four Gamer series from White Dwarf? I've been presented with an opportunity to buy one of the armies from the second instalment. I'm still waiting for pictures before committing (have them reserved in the meantime), but I'm pretty stoked about it and if the pics match I'm definitely getting them. EDIT: Bought them. It's the Nurgle army by Asger Granerud. The circus strongman seems to be missing but other than that it's all there.

[The Biggles Syndicate]

Yeah it's a campaign continuing the story further along.

The planet of Vigilus is a bastion/fortress world that sits on one of the few navigatable warp routes that connect the different halves of the Imperium with each other, and as such is obviously a pretty important world. There's an Ork Waaaagh in the wastes of the world, a Genestealer Cult uprising, the occasional Eldar raids, a massive amount of Imperial forces (led by the new Primaris Marneus Calgar), and Chaos is trying to take it out as well, led by a dude who has promised to Abaddon he'd take the world within 80 days.

I love that right after the Eldar revived Guilliman the Imperials attacked them on Vigilus, getting rid of their only potential allies in that situation.

The specific Eldar who held square to revive Ghilliesuitman are Ynnari, the Eldar on Vigilus are a different group.

By the way, what were 1st edition Primarchs like? Were there any loyalist models of them or was it just traitor ones?

[The Imperial Reach]

I love that right after the Eldar revived Guilliman the Imperials attacked them on Vigilus, getting rid of their only potential allies in that situation.

The specific Eldar who held square to revive Ghilliesuitman are Ynnari, the Eldar on Vigilus are a different group.

^This. The Ynnari are composed of Eldar from all branches, but don't make up the entire race.

[Crookfur]

I love that right after the Eldar revived Guilliman the Imperials attacked them on Vigilus, getting rid of their only potential allies in that situation.

The specific Eldar who held square to revive Ghilliesuitman are Ynnari, the Eldar on Vigilus are a different group.

By the way, what were 1st edition Primarchs like? Were there any loyalist models of them or was it just traitor ones?

There was a model of Russ and his wolves but I think that was about it

[Chan Island]

I assume you guys remember the old Tale of Four Gamer series from White Dwarf? I've been presented with an opportunity to buy one of the armies from the second instalment. I'm still waiting for pictures before committing (have them reserved in the meantime), but I'm pretty stoked about it and if the pics match I'm definitely getting them. EDIT: Bought them. It's the Nurgle army by Asger Granerud. The circus strongman seems to be missing but other than that it's all there.

Promise to post pictures of them when they arrive, alright?

What is this vigilus thing? Ive only really heard the name but nothing else. Is it a new campaign or something they are doing

Vigilus is the place where everyone has agreed to come and party (Tau not invited).