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How Do You Game?

Console (please specify)
71
12%
PC
344
57%
Arcade
2
0%
Anything and Everything
146
24%
Other
7
1%
David Hasselhoff
37
6%
 
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:07 am

The Matthew Islands wrote:Gragh, I've gotten to like the beginning of the 8th generation of consoles with the games Wii U. I am in the first office with 3 employees (2 plus me) and I can't get above 7 million in cash. I kind of float between 5 million and 7 million. I have had some hit games, but most of them are just good. Like 6/7 out of 10.

So frustrating.

I think I may have moved into the office from the garage too quickly.

I do have over 100k fans though. And my small booths at the G3 convention now gets about 300,000 people.

Basic tips:

-Don't leave the garage until you have 3-5M. In the garage you get scripted hits every 3-5 years, and you lose that the second you leave the garage.

-The game says that you can self publish medium games at 100K fans. That's wrong. 80k is when you start to break even, and by 90k you lose money by going through a publisher.

-Don't hire a second staff member (i.e. after the first one you hire) until you have at LEAST 20M and have stable profits. I'd say it'd be best to wait until you have 30M and hire someone really good.

-Reviews do not sell games. Hype sells games. Invest in marketing early and often. The amount of hype you can have before sales drop off is really quite high (I believe it's 200 for a 7/8 game, 300 for a 8/9 game, and infinite for a 10/11 game), but NOT having hype will make your game sell like shit.

-Recognize that you are fighting against yourself. There are criteria that makes a "good game", but it is far more important to make a better game than your last one as opposed to a good game that's the same quality.

-Once you can pull a profit (ANY kind of profit) through self publishing (again, usually about 80k fans), NEVER go through a publisher again. It increases sales numbers but you lose about 70% of the income.

-DO NOT FORGET TO TRAIN YOURSELF AND YOUR STAFF. I cannot stress this enough. Having a well trained staff is the difference between a 2/10 game and a 8/10 game. Specialize your staff members (I usually have it so the bottom row of staff is tech and the top row is design), and get into a habit of training every staff member at least once between games. Not only will this increase your games' ratings and sales, but it also ensures that you aren't gimped when you get to the final office (if you're in the final office without at least one person with 700 Design and one person with 700 Tech, you're screwed).


Finally:

-If you're still in the first office by the time the 8th gen consoles come out, you're doing something very very very wrong.
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Postby Licana » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:09 am

Spoder wrote:I was right when I said the 5960x was 1000USD.

Yep.

It's a shame I probably won't get the money together for a comprehensive 2011-3 upgrade for a while. :/

edit: may also need a new case too. moar USB 3.0 required.
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>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Spoder » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:46 am

Licana wrote:
Spoder wrote:I was right when I said the 5960x was 1000USD.

Yep.

It's a shame I probably won't get the money together for a comprehensive 2011-3 upgrade for a while. :/

edit: may also need a new case too. moar USB 3.0 required.

i7-5820k is a 6-core, for 400USD.

+ 380USD for an Asus X99 Deluxe, or 500USD for a Rampage V Extreme

+ 110USD for an 8GB kit of Crucial DDR4, or 240USD for a 16GB kit of G.Skill

Total of 1000USD for an upgrade with all the other hardware ready.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:01 am

I wonder when Quake Live II is coming out.
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Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Licana » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:02 am

Not getting a 5820k, if I'd do this I'd get a 5930k.

Even then, with college and an upcoming move on the way, not sure I really have the coin to dump one grand on something like this. Trust me, I'm well aware of the prices of these components, you don't need to quote them at me as if I didn't.
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>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Bezombia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:07 am

Licana wrote:Not getting a 5820k, if I'd do this I'd get a 5930k.

Even then, with college and an upcoming move on the way, not sure I really have the coin to dump one grand on something like this. Trust me, I'm well aware of the prices of these components, you don't need to quote them at me as if I didn't.

honestly might as well just go all out and get eight 12-core xeons

192GB of DDR4 ECC ram

two motherboards

octa-sli'd Titan Blacks

and at least 500TB of ssd space along with your 1 Exabyte cassette drive

EDIT: You might need two EB cassette drives, supposedly the next BF4 expac is gonna have a 600 PB install size
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Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Licana » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:10 am

fukkk xeons
>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Bezombia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:11 am

Licana wrote:fukkk xeons


96 cores of xeon > 8 cores of i7

although tbh it still might not be enough to play arma iii on max settings
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Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Licana » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:17 am

Bezombia wrote:96 cores of xeon > 8 cores of i7

At what application? Rendering a 1:1 scale model of the world, including all people? Maybe.

but regardless, fukkk xeons.

Bezombia wrote:although tbh it still might not be enough to play arma iii on max settings

alien supercomputers from space couldn't play arma iii on max settings.
>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Bezombia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:25 am

Licana wrote:
Bezombia wrote:96 cores of xeon > 8 cores of i7

At what application? Rendering a 1:1 scale model of the world, including all people? Maybe.

but regardless, fukkk xeons.


turbotax

alien supercomputers from space couldn't play arma iii on max settings.

well duh alienware is overpriced anyway
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Licana » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:26 am

the aliens only sell cheap knock-offs from alien china to alienware.

edit: butt all those extra glowy bits cost srs monies.
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>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Bezombia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:27 am

i bet the aliens use foxxcon too
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Licana » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:29 am

>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:29 am

Bezombia wrote:i bet the aliens use foxxcon too

Did someone say aliens?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:30 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Bezombia wrote:i bet the aliens use foxxcon too

Did someone say aliens?

And they all died instantly.

Thus is the life of XCOM.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:34 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

And they all died instantly.

Thus is the life of XCOM.

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Postby Licana » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:37 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

And they all died instantly.

Thus is the life of XCOM.

maybe they just ascended...
>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:39 am

Licana wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:And they all died instantly.

Thus is the life of XCOM.

maybe they just ascended...

Nope. They died. In agonizing pain. There were at least two Chryssalids involved.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:39 am

Licana wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:And they all died instantly.

Thus is the life of XCOM.

maybe they just ascended...

Hehe, bravo li bravo.
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Postby Spoder » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:53 am

>Be me
>Be 14
>Be a srs gamer, with dreams of going to PAX
>Be on steam
>Was playing TF2
>IRL friend comes on
>Im like, "I got into warmachine"
>Hes like "cool"
>We talk about nerd stuff
>I ask him if he has time for a battle on Monday
>Naw, I'm going to PAX on monday
>...
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:21 pm

Wing Commander 3 is free on Origin apparently.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:22 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:Wing Commander 3 is free on Origin apparently.

Origin is free like steam I presume?
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:27 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:Wing Commander 3 is free on Origin apparently.

Origin is free like steam I presume?

Yes, Its just EA's version of Steam. Its bit better than Steam in some ways, not as good in others.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:48 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Origin is free like steam I presume?

Yes, Its just EA's version of Steam. Its bit better than Steam in some ways, not as good in others.

^
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Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:05 pm

I just noticed "state of decay" on sale for $5.23 (with all DLC included) on steam, would you guys recommend it?
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