General Music Discussion II

[Cadonica]

Yeah, judging by my own ears those songs have more HC punk influences than metal influences. Also that album didn't have those clean vocals found on most metalcore songs/albums and those weren't even half as "melodic" as your average metalcore song. So I'm sticking with Post-Hardcore unless someone puts gun against my head and says "they're fucking metalcore!1"

I can feel some 90s post hardcore influence in the album, but just as much metalcore and mathcore.

I don't stress too much about the precise genre since it's out of my usual realm

[Mirrodinia]

http://youtu.be/uwXtvyC88es


This doesn't suck...it's actually pretty decent.

what is the world coming to?! At this rate Metallica will be covering "Viva La Vida" before you can say "genre clash!"

[Corrian]

So, does Kendrick Lamar just feature on everything hip-hop in existence or what?

[Cosumar]

http://youtu.be/uwXtvyC88es


This doesn't suck...it's actually pretty decent.

what is the world coming to?! At this rate Metallica will be covering "Viva La Vida" before you can say "genre clash!"

Why are you surprised? Imagine Dragons is pretty good. The original is still better of course, but I'm not at all surprised to see them do it justice.

[Corrian]

Why are you surprised? Imagine Dragons is pretty good. The original is still better of course, but I'm not at all surprised to see them do it justice.

You keep surprising me with things you like lately.

The only song I know by Imagine Dragons (Radioactive) gets on my nerves, but it isn't terrible, and there's worse. The big awesome drum in it is cool. But the song is just one of those catchy songs that get on my nerves.

[Vareiln]

So, does Kendrick Lamar just feature on everything hip-hop in existence or what?

Recently, he's been featuring a lot.
And no, that's not a bad thing(Unlike Pitbull).

[Mirrodinia]

http://youtu.be/uwXtvyC88es


This doesn't suck...it's actually pretty decent.

what is the world coming to?! At this rate Metallica will be covering "Viva La Vida" before you can say "genre clash!"

Why are you surprised? Imagine Dragons is pretty good. The original is still better of course, but I'm not at all surprised to see them do it justice.

You misunderstand. I like Imagine Dragons, and I do believe they're pretty talented, but "Tom Sawyer" is totally outside their genre (or maybe niche would be a better term in this situation), and the idea that such a mainstream, middle of the road, pop/rock/alternative act would cover such an old, not well known by their target age group, prog rock hit by Rush makes me do a double take. The fact that they're talented enough to do it justice and only really botching the guitar solo (not even botched that bad) just makes my jaw drop. I never would've guessed they even really knew Rush existed, and the drummer basically nailed it.

To sum it up: Mind= > > > > > > >

[The REAL Glasers]

So, I have a genre "problem." I found a good metalcore album and I'm not sure if it's metalcore or post-hardcore.
The album is Converge's All We Love We Leave Behind.
My favorite songs: Trespasses, Sparrow's Fall, All We Love We Leave Behind

Post-hardcore has significantly less metal influence than metalcore does. I've always known Converge to play a blend of metalcore and hardcore punk (well, that's a given knowing they pioneered the metalcore genre).

Converge is hardly the first Metalcore band.

[Shaluach]

http://youtu.be/uwXtvyC88es


This doesn't suck...it's actually pretty decent.

what is the world coming to?! At this rate Metallica will be covering "Viva La Vida" before you can say "genre clash!"

Argh... Just... I don't even think it was a very good cover.

[Limerent]

Post-hardcore has significantly less metal influence than metalcore does. I've always known Converge to play a blend of metalcore and hardcore punk (well, that's a given knowing they pioneered the metalcore genre).

Converge is hardly the first Metalcore band.

But they are still among the bands to shape and define metalcore, even if there were ones who came before them.

It's not as if I'm claiming Trivium or Bullet For My Valentine did the same, really.



...I'll stop here before find myself becoming too pedantic

[Ancient Magmia]

So, does Kendrick Lamar just feature on everything hip-hop in existence or what?

He's hip-hop's biggest star right now, so people want him on their music.

I don't think that's a bad thing though. Dude is actually talented, unlike other rappers who can't rap for shit but you see them everywhere (*cough* *cough*Drake*cough* 2 Chainz *cough* *cough*).

[The REAL Glasers]

Converge is hardly the first Metalcore band.

But they are still among the bands to shape and define metalcore, even if there were ones who came before them.

It's not as if I'm claiming Trivium or Bullet For My Valentine did the same, really.



...I'll stop here before find myself becoming too pedantic

They're a marquee band but I'd hardly give them credit as a band that shaped the genre, they're basically living up to what Rorschach and Starkweather did before them. But I'd say the roots of Metalcore really go back to the first Crossover bands like Cro-Mags.

[Demen 2]

Post-hardcore has significantly less metal influence than metalcore does. I've always known Converge to play a blend of metalcore and hardcore punk (well, that's a given knowing they pioneered the metalcore genre).

Converge is hardly the first Metalcore band.

To be fair, he did say they pioneered the Metalcore genre... There's not much truth to that either though

I do love Converge

[Demen 2]

http://youtu.be/uwXtvyC88es


This doesn't suck...it's actually pretty decent.

what is the world coming to?! At this rate Metallica will be covering "Viva La Vida" before you can say "genre clash!"

Argh... Just... I don't even think it was a very good cover.

can you drop your worship for a second and realize they didn't do a bad job?

[Corrian]

The only cover of Tom Sawyer I know is 2 minutes faster than the original

[Cosumar]

Why are you surprised? Imagine Dragons is pretty good. The original is still better of course, but I'm not at all surprised to see them do it justice.

You keep surprising me with things you like lately.

Metalheads are allowed to like other types of music, you know

I'm not a huge fan of Imagine Dragons or anything, but I find them far better than most stuff on the radio these days. What else were you surprised that I liked, just curious.

[Corrian]

Metalheads are allowed to like other types of music, you know

I'm not a huge fan of Imagine Dragons or anything, but I find them far better than most stuff on the radio these days. What else were you surprised that I liked, just curious.

Muse.

And I know. I can be considered a metalhead at times, and I went through a pop music phase

[Cosumar]

Muse.

To be fair, the only song I really know by Muse is "Explorers". I love that song though.

I can be considered a metalhead at times, and I went through a pop music phase

I've never had a pop music phase. I don't foresee it happening any time soon either. The closest I've come was my 90s hip hop phase a couple years ago. Or back when I was in middle school and knew nothing about music.

[Cadonica]

Argh... Just... I don't even think it was a very good cover.

can you drop your worship for a second and realize they didn't do a bad job?

This. I haven't listened to Imagine Dragons, and I'm not even sure if I'd like them, but that cover is good. True, maybe quality isn't the best possible but the cover itself is good.

The only cover of Tom Sawyer I know is 2 minutes faster than the original

Now this... not all that good...

[Corrian]

To be fair, the only song I really know by Muse is "Explorers". I love that song though.

That album is their least highly received album, too. I initially liked it but the album has actually gotten worse the more I've listened to it.

But now that you've said you liked Muse, though, I'm curious if you'd like these songs.

It's hard to find Muse songs on YouTube now...You have Spotify, right? You can just look up Citizen Erased and Stockholm Syndrome.

I've never had a pop music phase. I don't foresee it happening any time soon either. The closest I've come was my 90s hip hop phase a couple years ago. Or back when I was in middle school and knew nothing about music.

I'm always open to all sorts of different types of genres, and pop can be one of them. But pop is a pretty picky one for me and the stuff I was listening to recently isn't like, amazing pop but I like the mixture of the singers accented singing and they do at least have somewhat interesting sounds.

Despite saying that, my Album of the Year 2013 was an...ambient avant-garde synthpop album?

Some of the best pop music comes from The Knife. That one still easily stands out as one of the best pop bands.

[Cosumar]

I wasn't trying to say I never like pop. I like Lana Del Rey, Gotye and some other selected artists. I just meant I've never had a full-out phase where I listened primarily to pop over a period of time. It's a genre with a high proportion of crap, unfortunately, and even many of the good artists I've found don't usually have a whole lot of re-play value.

Yeah, I'm on Spotify. I'll be sure to listen to those songs.

[Corrian]

I wasn't trying to say I never like pop. I like Lana Del Rey, Gotye and some other selected artists. I just meant I've never had a full-out phase where I listened primarily to pop over a period of time. It's a genre with a high proportion of crap, unfortunately, and even many of the good artists I've found don't usually have a whole lot of re-play value.

Yeah, I'm on Spotify. I'll be sure to listen to those songs.

Yeah. CHVRCHES, whom I primarily like their singles and even rather ominous use of the singers "sweet" vocals in a couple of tracks, only has about half of their album me actually caring for it, if that. The rest is just okay. Not really bad but not very good, either. And even some songs the second half isn't as good as the first half.

The Knife seems to be the most experimental when it comes to synthpop, and pop music in general.

While my metal playlist is nearing 800 songs (Averaging about half per album I listen to, the ones I deem to be the "best" of the album), my pop one hasn't even hit 200 songs yet.

My post-rock/post-metal one is at 1,300 but yeah.

[Demen 2]

Very extensive metal playlist with only about three albums I regularly listen to

[The REAL Glasers]

I don't really listen to much Metal anymore. I'll visit the odd Death Metal release here and there and maybe some Black Metal, but my tastes largely gravitate toward Sludge and Stoner.

[Corrian]

I don't think that's a bad thing though. Dude is actually talented, unlike other rappers who can't rap for shit but you see them everywhere (*cough* *cough*Drake*cough* 2 Chainz *cough* *cough*).

Anthony Fantano reviewed some recent hip-hop album featuring 2 Chainz, and said something like "2 Chainz part is just a piece of shit".

I don't really listen to much Metal anymore. I'll visit the odd Death Metal release here and there and maybe some Black Metal, but my tastes largely gravitate toward Sludge and Stoner.

I kept jumping from random metal genres to synthpop recently. I really don't seem to have a favorite taste in music...

Though I did go through a major post-rock spree, but still, I don't have much of a specific defining genre I listen to the most.