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Postby Cadonica » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:59 am

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Calorax wrote:I've listened to exactly 20 albums from this year so far, most of which are okay but nothing fantastic
There has been a few really good ones though

My god how do you find so many? Random grabs or what?

I think my thing is I'm still focusing on old stuff, too, and rating things this year. If I was REALLY focusing on the current I could have a higher rating. But I probably never will entirely focus on the now...since I'm always adding new stuff.

Yeah, my backlogs average "age" as in how old the albums are is... 1990 (yes, I actually calculated that :lol: )
There's just too much good stuff done before!
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Postby Calorax » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:15 pm

Corrian wrote:
Calorax wrote:I've listened to exactly 20 albums from this year so far, most of which are okay but nothing fantastic
There has been a few really good ones though

My god how do you find so many? Random grabs or what?

I think my thing is I'm still focusing on old stuff, too, and rating things this year. If I was REALLY focusing on the current I could have a higher rating. But I probably never will entirely focus on the now...since I'm always adding new stuff.

Yeah, mostly just random grabs that look cool to me, but also I listen to all the hyped albums, like the new St. Vincent and Behemoth, neither of which I was particular enamoured by
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Postby Cadonica » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:18 pm

Calorax wrote:
Corrian wrote:My god how do you find so many? Random grabs or what?

I think my thing is I'm still focusing on old stuff, too, and rating things this year. If I was REALLY focusing on the current I could have a higher rating. But I probably never will entirely focus on the now...since I'm always adding new stuff.

Yeah, mostly just random grabs that look cool to me, but also I listen to all the hyped albums, like the new St. Vincent and Behemoth, neither of which I was particular enamoured by

Wait, new Behemoth?
Oh well, I wasn't too impressed by Evangelion so I'm not hurrying with that.
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Postby Calorax » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:40 pm

Cadonica wrote:
Calorax wrote:Yeah, mostly just random grabs that look cool to me, but also I listen to all the hyped albums, like the new St. Vincent and Behemoth, neither of which I was particular enamoured by

Wait, new Behemoth?
Oh well, I wasn't too impressed by Evangelion so I'm not hurrying with that.

Well, I guess if you like them you should get it, it's been absolutely ridiculously acclaimed
I just don't think it's particularly my style that's all
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Postby Cadonica » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:44 pm

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Cadonica wrote:Wait, new Behemoth?
Oh well, I wasn't too impressed by Evangelion so I'm not hurrying with that.

Well, I guess if you like them you should get it, it's been absolutely ridiculously acclaimed
I just don't think it's particularly my style that's all

I haven't really listened to Behemoth other than that Evangelion. And judging by that album, I don't think they're my kind of band. Evangelion had 2 good songs, the rest was more or less boring/bad.
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Postby The REAL Glasers » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:00 pm

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Cosumar wrote:I've only listened to four albums from 2014 so far. The new releases by Alor (6), Hail Spirit Noir (7), Persuader (8), and Alcest (7). Next up on my to-listen list are the new albums by Cynic and Woods of Desolation. Really hoping to hear a 9 soon, I only had one for all of 2013 (Summoning's album). Hell, maybe even a 10. I haven't given out a 10 since 2004.

Seems like I'm a LOT easier to please. Last year when I did NOT give a 10 was... 1973, and even then the highest was 9.7.


But Quadrophenia, DSOTM, Raw Power, Selling England by the Pound, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, and Over-Nite Sensation all came out that year.
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Postby Cosumar » Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:12 pm

I haven't listened to it yet either, but Behemoth's new album The Satanist is getting great reviews. Fantano gave it a 9 I think, and it's the highest-rated metal album of 2014 so far on RYM. I guess I'll need to give it a listen, even though I was never a huge fan of the band's previous work.
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Postby Vareiln » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:25 pm

Cosumar wrote:I haven't listened to it yet either, but Behemoth's new album The Satanist is getting great reviews. Fantano gave it a 9 I think, and it's the highest-rated metal album of 2014 so far on RYM. I guess I'll need to give it a listen, even though I was never a huge fan of the band's previous work.

My friend has it and I listened to about 3 songs from it(Including Blow Your Trumpets Gabriel). From that, I will say that it fully deserves that rating.
Also, what part of Behemoth's previous work did you not like?

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Postby Cosumar » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:29 pm

Vareiln wrote:
Cosumar wrote:I haven't listened to it yet either, but Behemoth's new album The Satanist is getting great reviews. Fantano gave it a 9 I think, and it's the highest-rated metal album of 2014 so far on RYM. I guess I'll need to give it a listen, even though I was never a huge fan of the band's previous work.

My friend has it and I listened to about 3 songs from it(Including Blow Your Trumpets Gabriel). From that, I will say that it fully deserves that rating.
Also, what part of Behemoth's previous work did you not like?

It's not that I dislike them, I just haven't listened to very much. Demigod is the only album by them I've heard in its entirety, and it didn't wow me. Solid stuff, but nothing too memorable either.
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Postby Vareiln » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:32 pm

Cosumar wrote:
Vareiln wrote:My friend has it and I listened to about 3 songs from it(Including Blow Your Trumpets Gabriel). From that, I will say that it fully deserves that rating.
Also, what part of Behemoth's previous work did you not like?

It's not that I dislike them, I just haven't listened to very much. Demigod is the only album by them I've heard in its entirety, and it didn't wow me. Solid stuff, but nothing too memorable either.

Eh, YMMW. I'd encourage you to listen to more of their work, but it's up to you.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:41 pm

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Postby Cadonica » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:20 pm

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Cadonica wrote:Seems like I'm a LOT easier to please. Last year when I did NOT give a 10 was... 1973, and even then the highest was 9.7.


But Quadrophenia, DSOTM, Raw Power, Selling England by the Pound, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, and Over-Nite Sensation all came out that year.

Haven't heard Quadrophenia, Raw Power, Selling England by the Pound or Over-Nite Sensation.

DSOTM was 5.2, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was 9.5 and Larks Tongues in Aspic was 9.0.
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Postby Mirrodinia » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:09 am

Cadonica wrote:
The REAL Glasers wrote:
But Quadrophenia, DSOTM, Raw Power, Selling England by the Pound, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, and Over-Nite Sensation all came out that year.

Haven't heard Quadrophenia, Raw Power, Selling England by the Pound or Over-Nite Sensation.

DSOTM was 5.2, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was 9.5 and Larks Tongues in Aspic was 9.0.


I really like Quadrophenia, double album rock opera by The Who. There's some really cool stuff on there.
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Postby Shaluach » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:42 am

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Cadonica wrote:Seems like I'm a LOT easier to please. Last year when I did NOT give a 10 was... 1973, and even then the highest was 9.7.


But Quadrophenia, DSOTM, Raw Power, Selling England by the Pound, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, and Over-Nite Sensation all came out that year.

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Postby Cadonica » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:44 am

Mirrodinia wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Haven't heard Quadrophenia, Raw Power, Selling England by the Pound or Over-Nite Sensation.

DSOTM was 5.2, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was 9.5 and Larks Tongues in Aspic was 9.0.


I really like Quadrophenia, double album rock opera by The Who. There's some really cool stuff on there.

The Who? Well in that case I might bump it on my to do list. I expect something between 80-90. Face Dances got 88.
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Postby Cadonica » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:46 am

So, I have a genre "problem." I found a good metalcore album and I'm not sure if it's metalcore or post-hardcore.
The album is Converge's All We Love We Leave Behind.
My favorite songs: Trespasses, Sparrow's Fall, All We Love We Leave Behind
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Postby Limerent » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:51 am

Cadonica wrote:So, I have a genre "problem." I found a good metalcore album and I'm not sure if it's metalcore or post-hardcore.
The album is Converge's All We Love We Leave Behind.
My favorite songs: Trespasses, Sparrow's Fall, All We Love We Leave Behind

Post-hardcore has significantly less metal influence than metalcore does. I've always known Converge to play a blend of metalcore and hardcore punk (well, that's a given knowing they pioneered the metalcore genre).

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Postby Juggalo world » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:53 am

Psychopathic records and all it's artist are my favorites but it's not the only music I listen to but in all honesty I don't see why people say it's music sucks if you look deep enough you honestly will find meaning in the music if not that's your choice oh well MCL.
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Postby Limerent » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:54 am

Juggalo world wrote:Psychopathic records and all it's artist are my favorites but it's not the only music I listen to but in all honesty I don't see why people say it's music sucks if you look deep enough you honestly will find meaning in the music if not that's your choice oh well MCL.

I'm impressed you managed to fit all of that into one sentence.

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Postby Juggalo world » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:56 am

Limerent wrote:
Juggalo world wrote:Psychopathic records and all it's artist are my favorites but it's not the only music I listen to but in all honesty I don't see why people say it's music sucks if you look deep enough you honestly will find meaning in the music if not that's your choice oh well MCL.

I'm impressed you managed to fit all of that into one sentence.

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Postby Cadonica » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:00 am

Limerent wrote:
Cadonica wrote:So, I have a genre "problem." I found a good metalcore album and I'm not sure if it's metalcore or post-hardcore.
The album is Converge's All We Love We Leave Behind.
My favorite songs: Trespasses, Sparrow's Fall, All We Love We Leave Behind

Post-hardcore has significantly less metal influence than metalcore does. I've always known Converge to play a blend of metalcore and hardcore punk (well, that's a given knowing they pioneered the metalcore genre).

Yeah, judging by my own ears those songs have more HC punk influences than metal influences. Also that album didn't have those clean vocals found on most metalcore songs/albums and those weren't even half as "melodic" as your average metalcore song. So I'm sticking with Post-Hardcore unless someone puts gun against my head and says "they're fucking metalcore!1"
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Postby Cosumar » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:22 am

Cadonica wrote:So, I have a genre "problem." I found a good metalcore album and I'm not sure if it's metalcore or post-hardcore.
The album is Converge's All We Love We Leave Behind.
My favorite songs: Trespasses, Sparrow's Fall, All We Love We Leave Behind

Great album.

Converge is straight-up metalcore. Mathcore and metalcore are usually considered their primary genres.

Post-hardcore is not a term many would use to describe Converge...you may upset some touchy fans if you insist on calling them that.
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Postby Cadonica » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:27 am

Cosumar wrote:
Cadonica wrote:So, I have a genre "problem." I found a good metalcore album and I'm not sure if it's metalcore or post-hardcore.
The album is Converge's All We Love We Leave Behind.
My favorite songs: Trespasses, Sparrow's Fall, All We Love We Leave Behind

Great album.

Converge is straight-up metalcore. Mathcore and metalcore are usually considered their primary genres.

Post-hardcore is not a term many would use to describe Converge...you may upset some touchy fans if you insist on calling them that.

Since when I cared about other fans :lol:
That album isn't that much metalcore as I said before, it's like saying Death Magnetic was thrash metal. Close but pretty far.
I think mathcore would be more appropriate than metalcore, at least when comparing those songs I linked to actual metalcore like [insert mainstream metalcore band here]
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Postby Limerent » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:29 am

Cadonica wrote:
Limerent wrote:Post-hardcore has significantly less metal influence than metalcore does. I've always known Converge to play a blend of metalcore and hardcore punk (well, that's a given knowing they pioneered the metalcore genre).

Yeah, judging by my own ears those songs have more HC punk influences than metal influences. Also that album didn't have those clean vocals found on most metalcore songs/albums and those weren't even half as "melodic" as your average metalcore song. So I'm sticking with Post-Hardcore unless someone puts gun against my head and says "they're fucking metalcore!1"

I can feel some 90s post hardcore influence in the album, but just as much metalcore and mathcore.

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