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Postby Nea Videssos » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:45 am

Went to see The Residents over in Manchester last night. Pretty enjoyable.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:43 am

Nea Videssos wrote:Went to see The Residents over in Manchester last night. Pretty enjoyable.

Neat! I've known them for quite a while because my dad owns a CD or two of theirs.
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Postby Cadonica » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:59 am

Corrian wrote:I'm going to start to periodically go through some of the previous artists I've listened to, and re-establish some ratings maybe while also making lists of "Favorite albums from such and such". Basically just making a top list of albums for artists with over 5 albums I would say, and make lists of them. I'm not entirely sure if I'll list everything they've done, or just the top 5, but I may just go full on with everything that's best by them.

Edit: I'm also going to put more work into "Top such and such for this year" lists.

I should do more lists like this. So far I've only done that for Metallica, Manowar and Iced Earth.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:14 pm

So I just listened to Ariana Grande's new album thank u, next, and oh boy it was just like what I was expecting just from the singles alone. Less pop and R&B and more heavily reliant on trap beats and snares, and lyrics about bragging about how much money she's got, her sex appeal and even stealing a girl's man for herself. The songs end up being really bitchy and catty, and it makes me hate Ariana rather than like her. The best songs are imagine, which is probably the closest that even remotely sounds like a decent Sweetner song, ghotsin' for actually being a good downtempo and romantically sweet song, bloodline being by far the most upbeat and not being totally trap percussion and beat, especially with a good horn line.

The rest of this album ends up being nothing more than album filler, Sweetner cuts, or just downright awful, the two worst being 7 rings, and especially the catty break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored. And then you have the title track. It's not as trap reliant like some of the other songs, but my God is Ariana just a bitch on this. Yes, it's her being grateful to her exes, but her delivery on this and the chorus with her saying thank u, next and the repetition of it is just so fucking awful, it makes her seem catty and bitchy, it does not make me sympathize with her. The fact this is her biggest hit and broke many records when it was released baffles me, because it's not a good song, it's only saved from being the worst because of decent production and her voice is passable. But the rest of this album is somehow just the title track done worse in multiple forms. And yet, this album is gonna sell huge on it's first week, because it's Ariana Grande, so many people love her music, and her die hard fans will eat up anything, even when it's bad.

4/10

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Postby Ghost Land » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:49 pm

^ Sadly I think that's the way mainstream popular music is going. The happy, cheesy, auto-tuned electropop of 2008-2014 wasn't great by any stretch (most of it sucked), but now that's gone and replaced with stupid trap rap, much of which ostensibly being about gardening tools.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:58 pm

Ghost Land wrote:^ Sadly I think that's the way mainstream popular music is going. The happy, cheesy, auto-tuned electropop of 2008-2014 wasn't great by any stretch (most of it sucked), but now that's gone and replaced with stupid trap rap, much of which ostensibly being about gardening tools.

I'll take the pop/EDM dance music of the early 2010s over most of the trap rap that has dominated the scene. At least those songs had a pulse and were enjoyably catchy and fun. The fact that a pop star like Ariana is trying to tread on the ground of brag rap and trap, is embarrassing. And yet, most Ariana stands, who normally enjoy your average pop girls will still like this because "OMG ARIANA SLAY QUEEN!!!!111"
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Postby Ghost Land » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:05 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Ghost Land wrote:^ Sadly I think that's the way mainstream popular music is going. The happy, cheesy, auto-tuned electropop of 2008-2014 wasn't great by any stretch (most of it sucked), but now that's gone and replaced with stupid trap rap, much of which ostensibly being about gardening tools.

I'll take the pop/EDM dance music of the early 2010s over most of the trap rap that has dominated the scene. At least those songs had a pulse and were enjoyably catchy and fun. The fact that a pop star like Ariana is trying to tread on the ground of brag rap and trap, is embarrassing. And yet, most Ariana stands, who normally enjoy your average pop girls will still like this because "OMG ARIANA SLAY QUEEN!!!!111"

Exactly, and regarding the bold, thank you for taking the words out of my mouth (that's what my post would have gone on to say if I hadn't been distracted). Ariana Grande was never the awesome artist the 13-year-old girls made her out to be from the get-go, although seeing this is just embarrassing like you said (I heard what I'm thinking was "Thank U Next" today, not out of my own volition of course, and my one thought was 'this is stupid').
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:07 pm

Ghost Land wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:I'll take the pop/EDM dance music of the early 2010s over most of the trap rap that has dominated the scene. At least those songs had a pulse and were enjoyably catchy and fun. The fact that a pop star like Ariana is trying to tread on the ground of brag rap and trap, is embarrassing. And yet, most Ariana stands, who normally enjoy your average pop girls will still like this because "OMG ARIANA SLAY QUEEN!!!!111"

Exactly, and regarding the bold, thank you for taking the words out of my mouth (that's what my post would have gone on to say if I hadn't been distracted). Ariana Grande was never the awesome artist the 13-year-old girls made her out to be from the get-go, although seeing this is just embarrassing like you said (I heard what I'm thinking was "Thank U Next" today, not out of my own volition of course, and my one thought was 'this is stupid').

The thing is I thought Ariana was a good artist, not as good as Mariah Carey like many have called her the mini-Mariah. But I feel this changed with her last album being more trend hopping towards trap rap trends, but still being a decent album with pop/R&B songs being good. But this... it lacks the same things that made Ariana a good or interesting performer, in my eyes and is clearly just coasting off of trends, all while her fans don't even blink and buy into it because it's Ariana who could do no wrong. It's embarrassing because I want to like this, but this is a low point, it's not good and I feel she's been in a downward spiral since the Manchester bombing, both with her personal life as well as musically.
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Postby Anollasia » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:48 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Ghost Land wrote:^ Sadly I think that's the way mainstream popular music is going. The happy, cheesy, auto-tuned electropop of 2008-2014 wasn't great by any stretch (most of it sucked), but now that's gone and replaced with stupid trap rap, much of which ostensibly being about gardening tools.

I'll take the pop/EDM dance music of the early 2010s over most of the trap rap that has dominated the scene. At least those songs had a pulse and were enjoyably catchy and fun. The fact that a pop star like Ariana is trying to tread on the ground of brag rap and trap, is embarrassing. And yet, most Ariana stands, who normally enjoy your average pop girls will still like this because "OMG ARIANA SLAY QUEEN!!!!111"


I don't listen to that stuff but what I have heard is pretty is pretty unlistenable to me. If you want fun, catchy pop that's pretty new, try The Aces. Their song "Volcanic Love" always gets me pumped and "Stuck" is also not bad. "Last One" is a song that's growing on me, it's a nice song that is limited by overproduction. I feel like the biggest problem of a lot of popular music today is being saturated with crappy overproduction.

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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:56 pm

Anollasia wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:I'll take the pop/EDM dance music of the early 2010s over most of the trap rap that has dominated the scene. At least those songs had a pulse and were enjoyably catchy and fun. The fact that a pop star like Ariana is trying to tread on the ground of brag rap and trap, is embarrassing. And yet, most Ariana stands, who normally enjoy your average pop girls will still like this because "OMG ARIANA SLAY QUEEN!!!!111"


I don't listen to that stuff but what I have heard is pretty is pretty unlistenable to me. If you want fun, catchy pop that's pretty new, try The Aces. Their song "Volcanic Love" always gets me pumped and "Stuck" is also not bad. "Last One" is a song that's growing on me, it's a nice song that is limited by overproduction. I feel like the biggest problem of a lot of popular music today is being saturated with crappy overproduction.

And I'd rather "crappy overproducted" pop and dance over undercooked, weak, under produced trap.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:21 pm

Dresderstan wrote:So I just listened to Ariana Grande's new album thank u, next, and oh boy it was just like what I was expecting just from the singles alone. Less pop and R&B and more heavily reliant on trap beats and snares, and lyrics about bragging about how much money she's got, her sex appeal and even stealing a girl's man for herself. The songs end up being really bitchy and catty, and it makes me hate Ariana rather than like her. The best songs are imagine, which is probably the closest that even remotely sounds like a decent Sweetner song, ghotsin' for actually being a good downtempo and romantically sweet song, bloodline being by far the most upbeat and not being totally trap percussion and beat, especially with a good horn line.

The rest of this album ends up being nothing more than album filler, Sweetner cuts, or just downright awful, the two worst being 7 rings, and especially the catty break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored. And then you have the title track. It's not as trap reliant like some of the other songs, but my God is Ariana just a bitch on this. Yes, it's her being grateful to her exes, but her delivery on this and the chorus with her saying thank u, next and the repetition of it is just so fucking awful, it makes her seem catty and bitchy, it does not make me sympathize with her. The fact this is her biggest hit and broke many records when it was released baffles me, because it's not a good song, it's only saved from being the worst because of decent production and her voice is passable. But the rest of this album is somehow just the title track done worse in multiple forms. And yet, this album is gonna sell huge on it's first week, because it's Ariana Grande, so many people love her music, and her die hard fans will eat up anything, even when it's bad.

4/10

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Worst: 7 rings, break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored, in my head, make up

I've never liked her music really, but this just sounds even worse and like every other trash almost hip-hop style lyrics.
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Postby Forlania » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:33 am

Finally gave Isolation by Kali Uchis a listen and while it started off pretty mild it finished pretty well. While it’s a very poppy album and fairly straightforward I do like the wide variety of genres that are mixed with the overall r&b dynamic prevelant.
Keeps it reasonably fresh and out of the 70 or so projects I heard from last year it fits snugly at about 25th for me.

After the Storm is probably my standout track
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Postby Corrian » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:57 pm

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Postby Third Asopia » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:02 pm

About the Ariana Grande thing, I am still a fan of her, but now her songs are starting to become like those trap shit. I mean, I personally like break up with your girlfriend, i’m bored, but I prefer her old songs. Especially No Tears Left To Cry.
Also, Dua Lipa is quite good. Her songs include pop and EDM, making her debut album a successful one. Ariana Grande and Dua Lipa have collaborated, but it won’t come out because of their ‘busy schedules’, which include Ari’s crappy music.
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Postby Third Asopia » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:05 pm

About the Ariana Grande thing, I am still a fan of her, but now her songs are starting to become like those trap shit. I mean, I personally like break up with your girlfriend, i’m bored, but I prefer her old songs. Especially No Tears Left To Cry.
Also, Dua Lipa is quite good. Her songs include pop and EDM, making her debut album a successful one. Ariana Grande and Dua Lipa have collaborated, but it won’t come out because of their ‘busy schedules’, which include Ari’s crappy music.
Patience is a virtue. Bear with it. Patience and procrastintion go together. Isn't that why we're obnoxiously detrimental?
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Have you thought of the fact that life's horrors outnumber the pleasures? Brought up like that, I have nothing to imagine but the past, present and future.

What's the difference between patience and procrastination? Basically, they both are similar: to wait for the right moment. But, patience is staying put for a long time without complaining. Procrastination, well, is waiting for 'that right moment' when it'll never come.

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Postby Eglaecia » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:16 am

Third Asopia wrote:About the Ariana Grande thing, I am still a fan of her, but now her songs are starting to become like those trap shit. I mean, I personally like break up with your girlfriend, i’m bored, but I prefer her old songs. Especially No Tears Left To Cry.
Also, Dua Lipa is quite good. Her songs include pop and EDM, making her debut album a successful one. Ariana Grande and Dua Lipa have collaborated, but it won’t come out because of their ‘busy schedules’, which include Ari’s crappy music.

Personally, I was disillusioned with pop music for the last couple years because of musical styles like Ariana Grande. However, J-Pop inspired bands like Kero Kero Bonito and electronic/indie inspired artists like EDEN have really drew me back to it. While I listen to a lot of rap, I despise pop-rap like Drake and Nicki Minaj. Horrible. Ariana is definitely trying to take inspiration from pop-rap.
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Postby Cadonica » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:20 am


Good to see he didn't go further into New Model's direction. Now I'm actually looking forward to the new album.
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Postby Ghost Land » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:41 am

Third Asopia wrote:About the Ariana Grande thing, I am still a fan of her, but now her songs are starting to become like those trap shit. I mean, I personally like break up with your girlfriend, i’m bored, but I prefer her old songs. Especially No Tears Left To Cry.
Also, Dua Lipa is quite good. Her songs include pop and EDM, making her debut album a successful one. Ariana Grande and Dua Lipa have collaborated, but it won’t come out because of their ‘busy schedules’, which include Ari’s crappy music.

"No Tears Left to Cry" "old"? :eyebrow:

From Wikipedia:
"Released: April 20, 2018"

Still sounds very much current to me.

Then again, anything released after 2000 to me is "new", and I have mentioned Matchbox Twenty and Third Eye Blind as among the "newer artists I like".
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Postby Corrian » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:44 am

Cadonica wrote:

Good to see he didn't go further into New Model's direction. Now I'm actually looking forward to the new album.

He's the type that actually evolves his synthwave (If you can still call it that with this stuff), so he seems to always be changing.
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Postby Cadonica » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:26 pm

This song has been on my to-check list for almost ten years, finally got around to listening to it and holy shit is it a good one.
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Postby Third Asopia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:33 am

Eglaecia wrote:
Third Asopia wrote:About the Ariana Grande thing, I am still a fan of her, but now her songs are starting to become like those trap shit. I mean, I personally like break up with your girlfriend, i’m bored, but I prefer her old songs. Especially No Tears Left To Cry.
Also, Dua Lipa is quite good. Her songs include pop and EDM, making her debut album a successful one. Ariana Grande and Dua Lipa have collaborated, but it won’t come out because of their ‘busy schedules’, which include Ari’s crappy music.

Personally, I was disillusioned with pop music for the last couple years because of musical styles like Ariana Grande. However, J-Pop inspired bands like Kero Kero Bonito and electronic/indie inspired artists like EDEN have really drew me back to it. While I listen to a lot of rap, I despise pop-rap like Drake and Nicki Minaj. Horrible. Ariana is definitely trying to take inspiration from pop-rap.

I think Drake is okay, but Nicki is a big nono.
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Third Asopia wrote:About the Ariana Grande thing, I am still a fan of her, but now her songs are starting to become like those trap shit. I mean, I personally like break up with your girlfriend, i’m bored, but I prefer her old songs. Especially No Tears Left To Cry.
Also, Dua Lipa is quite good. Her songs include pop and EDM, making her debut album a successful one. Ariana Grande and Dua Lipa have collaborated, but it won’t come out because of their ‘busy schedules’, which include Ari’s crappy music.

"No Tears Left to Cry" "old"? :eyebrow:

From Wikipedia:
"Released: April 20, 2018"

Still sounds very much current to me.

Then again, anything released after 2000 to me is "new", and I have mentioned Matchbox Twenty and Third Eye Blind as among the "newer artists I like".

Err...
She released quite a number of songs after, so...
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Postby Dresderstan » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:42 am

Drake is kind of a hit or miss, because of how overbloated and boring some of his songs can be on the album while the singles range all over. Nicki is just as hit or miss, but I think we have no need for her what with Cardi B basically being the new rap queen and all.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:57 am

Dresderstan wrote:Drake is kind of a hit or miss, because of how overbloated and boring some of his songs can be on the album while the singles range all over. Nicki is just as hit or miss, but I think we have no need for her what with Cardi B basically being the new rap queen and all.

Cardi B seems equally trash.
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Postby Roriel » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:31 am

Salutations, long time no see

Corrian wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Drake is kind of a hit or miss, because of how overbloated and boring some of his songs can be on the album while the singles range all over. Nicki is just as hit or miss, but I think we have no need for her what with Cardi B basically being the new rap queen and all.

Cardi B seems equally trash.

Cardi B isn't the best rapper out there, but I don't mind her music...some of it, anyways. If nothing else, Cardi B is more likable in my opinion (both as an artist and as a person).
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