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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:09 pm

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Well a standing military wouldn't work in Equestria since aside from Shining Armor and Flash Sentry, we haven't really seen many ponies who special talents are applicable to the military. Hel, even Shining Armor's seem to be strong in defensive spells, not offensive ones.

It's just temporary conscript, the conscripted ponies aren't professional soldiers. That's how armies worked in the medieval Europe. Shining Armor and Flash Sentry are knights or commanding officers that know military and they lead armed peasants. After the war ends, the conscripts are released and they return to their regular jobs.


Huh, works for me.

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Postby Magthere » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:09 pm

Wilgrove wrote:Honestly, I think the only military forces Equestria has is the Royal Guards and the Night Guards, other than that it's pretty much just regular pony folks. I'm more inclined to think of The Wonderbolts as a civilian version of the Blue Angels.


The mission of the United States Navy Flight Demonstration Squadron* is to showcase the pride and professionalism of the United States Navy and Marine Corps by inspiring a culture of excellence and service to country through flight demonstrations and community outreach.


-The Blue Angels Website FAQ page

*The Official Designation of the Blue Angels

In short what would the point of a civilian Blue Angels be, even if there more of rescue, recovery or self defense force, their are still command protocols...
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Postby The Time Alliance » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:10 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Seshephe wrote:The bat guards fly.. I'm sure they have more flying guards...
I mean, the air force probably isn't as big a deal if a big percentage of the population can fly...


Well they do have Pegasi in the Royal Guard.

This would made the entire military of Equestria 2 divisions.
Add that in with the......Transparent Sparkle Castles guards you have 3 divisions.
2 Equestrian and 1 Equestrian Puppet nation.

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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:11 pm

Magthere wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Honestly, I think the only military forces Equestria has is the Royal Guards and the Night Guards, other than that it's pretty much just regular pony folks. I'm more inclined to think of The Wonderbolts as a civilian version of the Blue Angels.


The mission of the United States Navy Flight Demonstration Squadron* is to showcase the pride and professionalism of the United States Navy and Marine Corps by inspiring a culture of excellence and service to country through flight demonstrations and community outreach.


-The Blue Angels Website FAQ page

*The Official Designation of the Blue Angels

In short what would the point of a civilian Blue Angels be, even if there more of rescue, recovery or self defense force, their are still command protocols...


There are civilian aerobatics and flying display team. One that comes to mind is RV8tors

Gods I miss flying. :(

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Postby Seshephe » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:12 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Well they do have Pegasi in the Royal Guard.

This would made the entire military of Equestria 2 divisions.
Add that in with the......Transparent Sparkle Castles guards you have 3 divisions.
2 Equestrian and 1 Equestrian Puppet nation.

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Postby Magthere » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:13 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Magthere wrote:


-The Blue Angels Website FAQ page

*The Official Designation of the Blue Angels

In short what would the point of a civilian Blue Angels be, even if there more of rescue, recovery or self defense force, their are still command protocols...


There are civilian aerobatics and flying display team. One that comes to mind is RV8tors

Gods I miss flying. :(


Then answer me why the Wonderbolts also had the unenviable job of engaging a dragon in combat, either they just happened to be en route to an air show in Uniform, or they had specific orders to engage. Otherwise why would they even wait to get uniforms on to protect a civilian population. Not like they actually provide much camouflage or protection!
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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:14 pm

Seshephe wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:This would made the entire military of Equestria 2 divisions.
Add that in with the......Transparent Sparkle Castles guards you have 3 divisions.
2 Equestrian and 1 Equestrian Puppet nation.

Image


:rofl:

Derpy!

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Postby Atomosea » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:15 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:I now want an episode based on the Politics and Military if Equestria. Imagine how that would change fanfics.

> "Politics"
> "Military"
> "Change fanfics"

ARE YOU TRYING TO GET US ALL KILLED?!?!?!

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Postby The Time Alliance » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:16 pm

Atomosea wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:I now want an episode based on the Politics and Military if Equestria. Imagine how that would change fanfics.

> "Politics"
> "Military"
> "Change fanfics"

ARE YOU TRYING TO GET US ALL KILLED?!?!?!

Dang it. You caught me.

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Postby Seshephe » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:16 pm

Magthere wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
There are civilian aerobatics and flying display team. One that comes to mind is RV8tors

Gods I miss flying. :(


Then answer me why the Wonderbolts also had the unenviable job of engaging a dragon in combat, either they just happened to be en route to an air show in Uniform, or they had specific orders to engage. Otherwise why would they even wait to get uniforms on to protect a civilian population. Not like they actually provide much camouflage or protection!

The mane six constantly get orders to solve issues and fight stuff. Are they military to? :)


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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:16 pm

Magthere wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
There are civilian aerobatics and flying display team. One that comes to mind is RV8tors

Gods I miss flying. :(


Then answer me why the Wonderbolts also had the unenviable job of engaging a dragon in combat, either they just happened to be en route to an air show in Uniform, or they had specific orders to engage. Otherwise why would they even wait to get uniforms on to protect a civilian population. Not like they actually provide much camouflage or protection!


Maybe they were being good civilians trying to stop a rampaging Spike? I mean yea they intervened, but they were ultimately ineffective at stopping Spike.

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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:16 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Atomosea wrote:> "Politics"
> "Military"
> "Change fanfics"

ARE YOU TRYING TO GET US ALL KILLED?!?!?!

Dang it. You caught me.

Your evil plan has been exposed, what do?
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Postby Immoren » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:19 pm

Seshephe wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:This would made the entire military of Equestria 2 divisions.
Add that in with the......Transparent Sparkle Castles guards you have 3 divisions.
2 Equestrian and 1 Equestrian Puppet nation.

Image


Unrelated. In Finnish narina means either creaking or whining.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:19 pm

Auzkhia wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:Dang it. You caught me.

Your evil plan has been exposed, what do?

I don't know.

Mane six are Special Ops.

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Postby Atomosea » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:19 pm

Seshephe wrote:
Magthere wrote:
Then answer me why the Wonderbolts also had the unenviable job of engaging a dragon in combat, either they just happened to be en route to an air show in Uniform, or they had specific orders to engage. Otherwise why would they even wait to get uniforms on to protect a civilian population. Not like they actually provide much camouflage or protection!

The mane six constantly get orders to solve issues and fight stuff. Are they military too? :)

Not exactly. More like a Secret Service, or perhaps a very tiny Spetsnaz.
The Time Alliance wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Your evil plan has been exposed, what do?

I don't know.

Mane six are Special Ops.

Something like that.
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Postby Magthere » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:21 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Magthere wrote:
Then answer me why the Wonderbolts also had the unenviable job of engaging a dragon in combat, either they just happened to be en route to an air show in Uniform, or they had specific orders to engage. Otherwise why would they even wait to get uniforms on to protect a civilian population. Not like they actually provide much camouflage or protection!


Maybe they were being good civilians trying to stop a rampaging Spike? I mean yea they intervened, but they were ultimately ineffective at stopping Spike.


Intervened in Uniform which either means they took the time to get dressed in a society that got naked, most likely due to force of habit, or just happened to be passing by in those uniforms. As the latter seems more improbable I go with the former, and the only reason I can think they would bother to take another 30 seconds to get into useless uniforms to engage a dragon is out of military discipline. Also note that just because their military doesn't mean their competent.

Seshephe wrote:
Magthere wrote:
Then answer me why the Wonderbolts also had the unenviable job of engaging a dragon in combat, either they just happened to be en route to an air show in Uniform, or they had specific orders to engage. Otherwise why would they even wait to get uniforms on to protect a civilian population. Not like they actually provide much camouflage or protection!

The mane six constantly get orders to solve issues and fight stuff. Are they military to? :)


Well they had powerful magic artifacts and a better success rate than the Wonderbolts and Royal guard, their D&D adventurers with reputation, that's why they get called in.
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Postby Immoren » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:21 pm

Seshephe wrote:
Magthere wrote:
Then answer me why the Wonderbolts also had the unenviable job of engaging a dragon in combat, either they just happened to be en route to an air show in Uniform, or they had specific orders to engage. Otherwise why would they even wait to get uniforms on to protect a civilian population. Not like they actually provide much camouflage or protection!

The mane six constantly get orders to solve issues and fight stuff. Are they military to? :)


I guess that twily is, given that she is princess. :p
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby The Time Alliance » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:26 pm

Okay so.
-2 Divisions of Royal Guards
-1 Division of Sparkly Royal Guards on Equestrian puppet nation
- 1 Civilian Air Force Performance group
-1 Spetznaz/Secret Service of 6

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Postby Atomosea » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:27 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:Okay so.
-2 Divisions of Royal Guards
-1 Division of Sparkly Royal Guards on Equestrian puppet nation
- 1 Civilian Air Force Performance group
-1 Spetznaz/Secret Service of 6

Looks about right.

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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:28 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:Okay so.
-2 Divisions of Royal Guards
-1 Division of Sparkly Royal Guards on Equestrian puppet nation
- 1 Civilian Air Force Performance group
-1 Spetznaz/Secret Service of 6


Works for me.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:28 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Fluffy.

Hah, Flufflyis.



Oh, that Pinkie Pie.


Phisych University wrote:- *Phisych starts reading Winning Pony* *Happiness ensues*
- Systems normal.
- Systems normal.
- Systems normal.
- Systems normal.
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The Cerebus Syndrome there picked up like a motherfucker.

I remember those feels.


Ceffyltir wrote:...

Is she jumping a shark?


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These facts are factual.



Awesome.


Orangi wrote:I've decided that Earth Ponies have prehensile tails/hair, by the way. We've not really seen pegasi or unicorns use their tails the same way. Dash uses her tail a little bit but it's very basic.

Applejack, Applebloom, Pinkie Pie, have all displayed fine control of their tails to the tip.

I can accept this headcanon.


Seshephe wrote:
Magthere wrote:
Just because I don't know how many here have or have not watched that clip I'll need to spoiler my reaction.

I wonder, depending on how deeply Spitfire is involved in this, her position in the Wonderbolts might be put under review, or even get her court martialed (at least if it wasn't such a saccharine world anyway). Trying to get an athlete to defect quite possibly by exploiting your rank, position, and experiences does not strike me as sound. Heck depending on how the episode goes I might actually do a fic on the would be review and/or court martial.

I doubt it, that sort of thing is common, no? Athletes go to whichever team offers the best deal, either in terms of prestige or money or training or whatever. I really hope that she chooses the cloudsdale team. Anything else would just be stupid.

That wouldn't be very loyalty.



Ameriganastan wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
It isn't unreasonable.

Equestria needs an Air Force after all.

Yeah. Who else is gonna get their asses kicked so Twilight can save the day?

The Royal Guard?


Wilgrove wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Seconded.
Due to its Schizo tech nature, Equestria wouldn't have a standing modern military, they'd just have castle guards. However, they could conscript peasant ponies in times of war, but that doesn't seem to happen.


Well a standing military wouldn't work in Equestria since aside from Shining Armor and Flash Sentry, we haven't really seen many ponies who special talents are applicable to the military. Hel, even Shining Armor's seem to be strong in defensive spells, not offensive ones.

And?

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Postby Immoren » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:30 pm

Perhaps "division" is too generous in this context. Perhaps more like regiment. :p


And sales of commissions are probably a thing in equestria am I right? Shining probably bought commission from another unicorn. :p
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:32 pm

So I wonder who's the new Captain of the Royal Guard is, now that Shining Armor is a Prince of The Crystal Empire

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