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Postby Britanania » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:28 pm

I wasn't aware you could kill a concept
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Postby Vareiln » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:28 pm

No. Just because it's music you don't like doesn't magically make it not music.
Perhaps the genres you like are dying, but music isn't dying.
Or, perhaps, you could look at lesser known stuff that's being made today instead of what's on the radio. Then, with a straight face, tell me music is dying. Do it. I need a laugh.

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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:28 pm

Britanania wrote:I wasn't aware you could kill a concept

Well this sure killed the concept that it couldn't.
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Postby Kranstentistan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:28 pm

Blasveck wrote:Is Music, as a genre, dying?

Now, when I say dying, I'm talking about the quality of music, really. With a saturation of mainstream* artists resorting to using autotune and phasing out of actual instruments, I feel music, as a genre and the quality of it, is dying.

Perhaps this is just the ramblings of a musically-inclined teen, but when I see the music that is produced today, what I don't see is the Beatles, the Jimi Hendrixes, the Elvises, etc.

What do you think, NS? Is the quality of music slacking as of late?

So your saying that music is "dying" because all of the music you like isn't as popular as it was in the 20th century?

Get a room.

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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:29 pm

Kranstentistan wrote:
Blasveck wrote:Is Music, as a genre, dying?

Now, when I say dying, I'm talking about the quality of music, really. With a saturation of mainstream* artists resorting to using autotune and phasing out of actual instruments, I feel music, as a genre and the quality of it, is dying.

Perhaps this is just the ramblings of a musically-inclined teen, but when I see the music that is produced today, what I don't see is the Beatles, the Jimi Hendrixes, the Elvises, etc.

What do you think, NS? Is the quality of music slacking as of late?

So your saying that music is "dying" because all of the music you like isn't as popular as it was in the 20th century?

Get a room.

I'm fairly certain that's an inaccurate use of the phrase "get a room".
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Postby Havenburgh » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:31 pm

The old style of music is dead, like the old brass and wooden instruments. What is using is the new, upbeat music that has electric style in it, like hip hop, and dubstep. Poetry is still there too, but faster and more raunchy lyrics, called rap.

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Postby Divided America » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:31 pm

:palm: :eyebrow: Really?
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Postby Kranstentistan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:31 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Kranstentistan wrote:So your saying that music is "dying" because all of the music you like isn't as popular as it was in the 20th century?

Get a room.

I'm fairly certain that's an inaccurate use of the phrase "get a room".

Aw fuck.

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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:32 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:Bah, classical music is eternal.

The industry can't taint that.

Hahaaaa...yeah, you weren't around for the whole Chant and Enigma thing in the 90s...

No I wasn't. I was just growing up.

Before I give off the impression that I think all modern music sucks: I do not think that it does. There's actually some pretty catchy tunes being produced in this day and age (and some more artsy stuff as well) I just happen to prefer the sound of philharmonics and symphonies.
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Postby Vareiln » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:32 pm

Havenburgh wrote:The old style of music is dead, like the old brass and wooden instruments. What is using is the new, upbeat music that has electric style in it, like hip hop, and dubstep. Poetry is still there too, but faster and more raunchy lyrics, called rap.

There are many, many, many, many, many more genres of music than that, my friend. Always have been.

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Postby Luveria » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:32 pm

You having an inability to find music you enjoy, does not mean "music is dying".

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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:33 pm

Kranstentistan wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I'm fairly certain that's an inaccurate use of the phrase "get a room".

Aw fuck.

We all learn when we're young, don't feel too bad about it. Feel kinda bad about it.
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Postby Vareiln » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:33 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Hahaaaa...yeah, you weren't around for the whole Chant and Enigma thing in the 90s...

No I wasn't. I was just growing up.

Before I give off the impression that I think all modern music sucks: It doesn't. There's actually some pretty catchy tunes being produced in this day and age (and some more artsy stuff as well) I just happen to prefer the sound of philharmonics and symphonies.

There's a lot of neoclassical stuff that avoids using electronics that you might like.

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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:34 pm

That's like asking if a boulder is dying.
It's not even a valid question.

Havenburgh wrote:The old style of music is dead, like the old brass and wooden instruments.


The large number of pieces of classical music that are still coming out ever single year beg to differ.
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:36 pm

Astrolinium wrote:That's like asking if a boulder is dying.
It's not even a valid question.

Havenburgh wrote:The old style of music is dead, like the old brass and wooden instruments.


The large number of pieces of classical music that are still coming out ever single year beg to differ.

Van Der Roost
Sparke
Zdechlik

some of my favorites
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Postby Cyyro » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:37 pm

Vareiln wrote:No. Just because it's music you don't like doesn't magically make it not music.
Perhaps the genres you like are dying, but music isn't dying.
Or, perhaps, you could look at lesser known stuff that's being made today instead of what's on the radio. Then, with a straight face, tell me music is dying. Do it. I need a laugh.


In that case, is dubstep now considered music? :o
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Postby Aggicificicerous » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:37 pm

Music is not dying. Each generation has its terrible music; the stuff is just more prominent now than it was 30 years because we have more and better ways of listening to and transmitting it. There's plenty of music from the 60's, 70's 80's, et cetera on the radio. I don't find it any better or worse than a good chunk of what's popular today.

I listen primarily to baroque opera, and the quality of that has drastically improved in the past 20 or so years. Singers today are better and more imaginative than ever. Conductors are more open-minded and play both a wider range of music and a wider range musically. I get excited for my favourite singers and ensembles coming out with their new works every year. And this works for all genres; you can find a tremendously wide range of music today. Focus on the stuff that interests you and ignore the rest. If I spent too much time worrying about Lady Gaga or Miley Cyrus or whatever abomination is popular now, I would get no sleep.

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Postby North American States » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:38 pm

No, music is not dying. People tend to think music from past decades was better because only the good stuff made it through to our time. People were already talking about the death of music in the 90s.

There was plenty of ultra commercial garbage at least since the invention of recorded music. It is made because it sells, later it falls from grace and vanishes from history. Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus and etc will possibly vanish in about 10 years, like the backstreet boys have, and many many pop bands in the 80s and 70s also have.

So...business as usual.

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Postby Vareiln » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:38 pm

Cyyro wrote:
Vareiln wrote:No. Just because it's music you don't like doesn't magically make it not music.
Perhaps the genres you like are dying, but music isn't dying.
Or, perhaps, you could look at lesser known stuff that's being made today instead of what's on the radio. Then, with a straight face, tell me music is dying. Do it. I need a laugh.


In that case, is dubstep now considered music? :o

Unlike what edgy hipsters like you are inclined to think, dubstep is quite obviously music.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:39 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Hahaaaa...yeah, you weren't around for the whole Chant and Enigma thing in the 90s...

No I wasn't. I was just growing up.

This was happening in the classical section of your favorite music store

And this.
(actually, I thought that was pretty awesome, I even went and saw a performance at the Grace Cathedral in San Francisco.)

But anyway, this album Chant became a best seller for no particular reason, and this band Enigma had one hit, so 'remixing' medieval music became a huge thing. It was...weird...
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:42 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:That's like asking if a boulder is dying.
It's not even a valid question.



The large number of pieces of classical music that are still coming out ever single year beg to differ.

Van Der Roost
Sparke
Zdechlik

some of my favorites


I'm father fond of de Meij and Whitaker -- Sparke is very good too.
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:46 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:No I wasn't. I was just growing up.

This was happening in the classical section of your favorite music store

And this.
(actually, I thought that was pretty awesome, I even went and saw a performance at the Grace Cathedral in San Francisco.)

But anyway, this album Chant became a best seller for no particular reason, and this band Enigma had one hit, so 'remixing' medieval music became a huge thing. It was...weird...

Eh, not my cup of tea.

Medieval music is too...sparse for my taste. I much prefer the big brassy sounds of songs written by Mahler, Mussorgsky, or Stravinsky.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:47 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:Van Der Roost
Sparke
Zdechlik

some of my favorites


I'm father fond of de Meij and Whitaker -- Sparke is very good too.

Damn, I lost my CD with extreme makeover on it.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:49 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:This was happening in the classical section of your favorite music store

And this.
(actually, I thought that was pretty awesome, I even went and saw a performance at the Grace Cathedral in San Francisco.)

But anyway, this album Chant became a best seller for no particular reason, and this band Enigma had one hit, so 'remixing' medieval music became a huge thing. It was...weird...

Eh, not my cup of tea.

Medieval music is too...sparse for my taste. I much prefer the big brassy sounds of songs written by Mahler, Mussorgsky, or Stravinsky.

I think at some point our conversation got on different tracks...
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:53 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I think at some point our conversation got on different tracks...

No I just kind of took the last line of your post and spun it off to a different topic.

Like I said, the stuff you posted is interesting, but not something I care to listen to.
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Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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