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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:18 pm

The scenes with Negan and Rick were really good, like that episode a lot.


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I think Negan is going to be very pissed for a while after this episode...if he survives. Not finished yet.
Had a feeling he'd live...
Now to see what ole Jadus is going to do.
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Postby Zanera » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:57 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The scenes with Negan and Rick were really good, like that episode a lot.


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I think Negan is going to be very pissed for a while after this episode...if he survives. Not finished yet.
Had a feeling he'd live...
Now to see what ole Jadus is going to do.


Have a feeling she might drive him straight to the Hilltop or Alexandria as revenge. Negan might yap and tell her Alexandria got razed (towns/cities named Alexandria seem to burn a lot...) and so they go to the Hilltop (I'm assuming she knows where the Hilltop is) and Negan sees the shit Simon's doing and there's a mini civil war between the Saviors, and that's how the Hilltop might get somewhat spared, although they still take some shit from the Saviors.

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Postby Mega Mexico » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:04 am

I think that they're making good use of Simon as an original character. He actually gets to do something other then what his boss says; and not because he thinks Negan is going too far, but not far enough. I do hope that they will borrow as much from the comics as possible.


Of course I do hope that this is also a way for the writers to keep Negan alive, just like in the comics.
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:02 am

Mega Mexico wrote:
I think that they're making good use of Simon as an original character. He actually gets to do something other then what his boss says; and not because he thinks Negan is going too far, but not far enough. I do hope that they will borrow as much from the comics as possible.

Simon is by far my favorite bad guy this season. That said, I suspect he's toast very soon.

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I think that they're making good use of Simon as an original character. He actually gets to do something other then what his boss says; and not because he thinks Negan is going too far, but not far enough. I do hope that they will borrow as much from the comics as possible.

Simon is by far my favorite bad guy this season. That said, I suspect he's toast very soon.

Yeah i believe so too, which is a shame because i really like him.
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Postby Mega Mexico » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:56 am

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Simon is by far my favorite bad guy this season. That said, I suspect he's toast very soon.

Yeah i believe so too, which is a shame because i really like him.


I like him too, but he's more then likely gonna get killed in action. Who knows, maybe Negan will Lucille his ass. That would be pretty fun.
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Postby Forsher » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:17 pm

I was really busy this last few weeks so I let TWD get away from me a bit, but today's a public holiday so I'm catching up.

Series 8B Episode 3

Don't really have a thought about this one. Carson died, Gabriel can't see and Rick was barely in it. Tara nearly got them all killed again. This is like a Terminus series episode... the plot kept ticking over enough but it still could have been faster. However, if you watch it in a bloc of two with the next episode it's only in hindsight you feel it could have been faster.


Series 8B Episode 4

That ending reminded me so much of how it looked not so long ago as if the most interesting version of TWD was Carl and Negan working together as Saviours.

Mostly I'm just glad that after eight years or whatever this programme has finally realised what is so very obvious... every problem they face now has already been solved, hundreds of years ago (the zombies, let's be real, aren't really a problem except when you want to kill off the Carls of the world).


Series 8B Episode 5

That was just so dumb:

  • Why does a community under threat have no-one awake?
  • Okay, I'll completely believe no-one ever had an open wound back in the zombie gut trick episodes. Especially after Gabriel's adventures in, you know, not becoming a zombie.
  • How do you get bitten on your shoulder and not screech like a maniac? Totally worth toughing it out.
  • How do you keep prisoners without having literally anyone watching them overnight? And why do you leave keys somewhere a really freaking short kid can get them?
  • Speaking of Henry, why do you not watch him specifically after everything's that eventuated? Because you can't believe a kid will go rogue?
  • How did any Saviours walk away from the several occasions they all got shot at with high powered automatic weapons aimed right at them from no distance away? Several Times! Oh, that trick only works with actual machine guns. Dogs Guns aren't Dangerous!(At least this explains how there's a zombie apocalypse.)
Other thoughts:

  • Were Dwight's arrows zombied?
  • I know modern bows probably don't suffer many of the limitations of the traditional weapons, but the effectiveness of bows and arrows as weapons of war was heavily constrained by the amount of training they required (in some cases, being an archer was a lifetime's pursuit... and one which could deform your skeleton considerably). Even allowing for an arc of fire, they shouldn't be competitive. And they should definitely not come across as being superior.
  • At least Tara realised all of this is on her head a little. Just got to convince Daryl now.
  • Still no Heath.


Clearly, far from my favourite episode.
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Postby Ozzy » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:03 pm

So... anyone have any ideas who the helicopter might belong to? Any speculations that it could be a bigger faction from the comic book? Because I am hoping it is for a change lol
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Postby Zanera » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:10 pm

Haven't watched the last couple/few episodes. For one of them I was watching Stranger Things or some other TV show that felt better to watch than TWD.

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Postby Forsher » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:40 pm

I read something which gave me the impression there was something notable about this last episode. There wasn't. It was a completely ordinary late stage Walking Dead episode. Except...

Seems Eugene's the new Dwight.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:55 am

Ozzy wrote:
So... anyone have any ideas who the helicopter might belong to? Any speculations that it could be a bigger faction from the comic book? Because I am hoping it is for a change lol

Ive not read to this point in the comics, but i saw a lot of people saying they hope its the commonwealth, so i guess thats another prominent one from the comics that should be appearing around about now.
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Postby Zanera » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:41 pm

It's starting to feel good to watch TWD again.

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Postby Forsher » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:09 am

Zanera wrote:It's starting to feel good to watch TWD again.


You forgive too readily...

Eugene should never have been able to be captured so easily. And then, once he escaped (which was ingenious in method), Rosita and Darryl knew where he'd be going so it was just as dumb that he wasn't recaptured.
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Postby Cosumar » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:04 am

Not too much action in that episode, aside from the Saviors all having their dirty laundry aired, but I can see the pieces starting to move into place for the payoff of what will hopefully be an epic final battle.

I'm also glad we got to hear Carl's letters.

And damn, Rosita just pushed Eugene over the edge to fully embracing his allegiance to the Savior cause.
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Postby Zanera » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:36 am

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Zanera wrote:It's starting to feel good to watch TWD again.


You forgive too readily...

Eugene should never have been able to be captured so easily. And then, once he escaped (which was ingenious in method), Rosita and Darryl knew where he'd be going so it was just as dumb that he wasn't recaptured.


I had to catch up on the last few episodes and it doesn't kill them to show multiple plot threads in an episode anymore. Good enough for me, plus now there's a little less symbolism hackneyedly stuffed into every plot thread seemingly.
Eugene could have maybe cried out and alerted his men (though R&D...Research & Development...anyway, might've killed him for that) As for not recapturing him...Well I don't know.
Like Cosumar said, the entire thing and Rosita's comments solidified Eugene's conscious again, even if briefly again. Served nothing else, really. Just reaffirmed stuff. Kinda pointless tbh.
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Postby Zanera » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:18 pm

Looks like Daryl's and Maggie's mercy doesn't extend as far as Rick's and Michonne's.

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Postby Wrapper » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:59 am

Okay, so I'd been spoiled by the All Out War comics, which ended with Negan, throat slashed but still alive, about to rot in a jail cell. Figured they'd go that route on the series as well. Perhaps that's why, for me, although the route to get there was elaborate and different, the entire episode seemed far too predictable and lacking in drama and intensity -- especially after one of the better episodes of the season a week ago.

Knew our heroes would fall for Negan's trap. Knew that Eugene would sabotage the bullets. Knew the (formerly) captive Saviors would help the Hilltop out. Knew that the Oceanside gals would show up in the nick of time to do just enough. Knew that Morgan would eventually use the blunt end of the stick. Knew that Rick would let everyone live, including Negan. Knew that Maggie would lose her shit over that. Knew that Jesus and Daryl would....

Wait, what?

How the hell would someone like Jesus, who finally got through to Morgan about using the blunt end of the stick, advocate killing Negan? And why, after all this time, would Daryl, after letting Dwight go, take sides with Maggie against Rick? It makes perfect sense for Maggie to want him dead, but I would have recruited someone else. Like... ummm....

Huh. Never mind.

Anyway, I can't envision Maggie going all-out-Governor or anything like that, so I don't expect her to be the big bad baddie this upcoming season. And without Carl around to banter with, it will be interesting to see what they do with Negan in upcoming episodes.
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Postby Zanera » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:03 am

Wrapper wrote:
Okay, so I'd been spoiled by the All Out War comics, which ended with Negan, throat slashed but still alive, about to rot in a jail cell. Figured they'd go that route on the series as well. Perhaps that's why, for me, although the route to get there was elaborate and different, the entire episode seemed far too predictable and lacking in drama and intensity -- especially after one of the better episodes of the season a week ago.

Knew our heroes would fall for Negan's trap. Knew that Eugene would sabotage the bullets. Knew the (formerly) captive Saviors would help the Hilltop out. Knew that the Oceanside gals would show up in the nick of time to do just enough. Knew that Morgan would eventually use the blunt end of the stick. Knew that Rick would let everyone live, including Negan. Knew that Maggie would lose her shit over that. Knew that Jesus and Daryl would....

Wait, what?

How the hell would someone like Jesus, who finally got through to Morgan about using the blunt end of the stick, advocate killing Negan? And why, after all this time, would Daryl, after letting Dwight go, take sides with Maggie against Rick? It makes perfect sense for Maggie to want him dead, but I would have recruited someone else. Like... ummm....

Huh. Never mind.

Anyway, I can't envision Maggie going all-out-Governor or anything like that, so I don't expect her to be the big bad baddie this upcoming season. And without Carl around to banter with, it will be interesting to see what they do with Negan in upcoming episodes.


I don't think I saw or heard Jesus agreeing with Maggie, though if he does that would really surprise me for the "blunt end of the stick" reason too. Unless Maggie was mistaken to let Jesus on.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:09 am

I could see Maggie wanting to kill him and going against rick, thats fine, that works with how they left it off imo, Daryl as well, IF, he ended things differently with Dwight. Jesus i just cant get, think that is just off.


Overall it was an okay episode, Eugene is my man as always, and i did love the confrontation with Negan and Rick, that was great imo.
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Postby Tekania » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:13 pm

Zanera wrote:
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Okay, so I'd been spoiled by the All Out War comics, which ended with Negan, throat slashed but still alive, about to rot in a jail cell. Figured they'd go that route on the series as well. Perhaps that's why, for me, although the route to get there was elaborate and different, the entire episode seemed far too predictable and lacking in drama and intensity -- especially after one of the better episodes of the season a week ago.

Knew our heroes would fall for Negan's trap. Knew that Eugene would sabotage the bullets. Knew the (formerly) captive Saviors would help the Hilltop out. Knew that the Oceanside gals would show up in the nick of time to do just enough. Knew that Morgan would eventually use the blunt end of the stick. Knew that Rick would let everyone live, including Negan. Knew that Maggie would lose her shit over that. Knew that Jesus and Daryl would....

Wait, what?

How the hell would someone like Jesus, who finally got through to Morgan about using the blunt end of the stick, advocate killing Negan? And why, after all this time, would Daryl, after letting Dwight go, take sides with Maggie against Rick? It makes perfect sense for Maggie to want him dead, but I would have recruited someone else. Like... ummm....

Huh. Never mind.

Anyway, I can't envision Maggie going all-out-Governor or anything like that, so I don't expect her to be the big bad baddie this upcoming season. And without Carl around to banter with, it will be interesting to see what they do with Negan in upcoming episodes.


I don't think I saw or heard Jesus agreeing with Maggie, though if he does that would really surprise me for the "blunt end of the stick" reason too. Unless Maggie was mistaken to let Jesus on.


Yes, Jesus did not express any agreement with Maggie. I don't see him going with that. Probably will end up with him tipping off Rick to Maggie's plan.
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Postby Forsher » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:54 pm

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Seems Eugene's the new Dwight.


Man did I get that right.

Of course, I meant it in literally the opposite fashion but damn.

That was a weird episode. I think the major issue is that
(aside from the Jadis betrayal level illogical writing of the end, i.e. Maggie) the episode clearly assumed that we'd get some sense of "pay off" from it.
Of course, we don't. Why? Because we've seen this episode three or four times now in pretty much exactly the same way. Except, this time,
the crazy twist at the end to subvert expectations was pro-Alexandria.
And it doesn't matter we can even believe in this one.

On the bright side, going out on such a meh note means I can probably just take it on faith. I actually really liked the first Kingdom and Oceanside episodes (and some of the other ones like it, e.g. Tara's first episode) because I still believed that TWD was the same programme.
That is, you'd get random diversionary episodes which could pay off.
That you'd spend time somewhere else knowing you'd get back to the actual action. That 1/3 episodes or 1/4 justified the other two/three. We took 16 episodes longer than we needed to here and that was not a good move on the show's part. But this episode was just so detached from everything that I believe I'll forget the last two years' method.
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Postby Wrapper » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:09 pm

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Postby Forsher » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:09 pm

I mean, it says a lot about what's happened with this show that I didn't notice it was starting up again today but while it wouldn't really be such a big deal, I was at a massive loose end just now and it would have filled the gap so much better than some dumb Youtube videos. What absolutely rotten luck. Won't watch it for a few days though. Be back then.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:13 am

I didnt even know till the other day a new season was coming out (today it is i think)
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Postby Wrapper » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:22 am

Two episodes in, and I'm just not feeling the love I used to feel about this show. I have to wonder, how much of that is because they announced Andrew Lincoln's departure instead of keeping it under wraps, like they have for every other departure (save Morgan's defection to FTWD)? Or is it just a fall-off in the quality of the writing and show-running?

I'm tempted to think that the show just isn't the same with Carl's death. To me, the entirety of TWD -- much as it is in the comics to this day -- is a story about a father and son in a post-apocalyptic world. Take away the son, it loses something. Take away the father, and what's left?

I don't have high hopes for the remainder of this series anymore.

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