Halo vs. Star Wars: Who would win?

[Wisconsin9]

No it couldn't be imported, because the Empire controlled every inhabited system in the galaxy.

I meant from different places. Resources would run out quick if confined to a single planet/

I doubt the Flood's ability to overrun seventy million planets before the Empire finds out about them, and one the Empire did find out about them that's game because they can produce well over a thousand Star Destroyers in a year.

[Galnius]

Seeing as Star Wars characters regularly walk around planets without NBC suits to protect from germs indicates that Star Wars people must have kickass Devon equipment, or something of the kind. Even the ewoks didn't get space-yellow fever from mingling with outsiders, which would happen in real life. However, there have been successful quarantines of intelligent parasites, and flood are not super dangerous at the proto-gravemind phase (halo 1). The only reason the gravemind formed is because penitent tangent went rampant and just quit his job at being the monitor (basically, or he is a bumbling idiot) and let the quarantine zone go.

The reason disease did not spread like that was because Star Wars is unrealistic. Even beyond that of HALO.

[Galnius]

I meant from different places. Resources would run out quick if confined to a single planet/

I doubt the Flood's ability to overrun seventy million planets before the Empire finds out about them, and one the Empire did find out about them that's game because they can produce well over a thousand Star Destroyers in a year.

They can know about it all they want. When the flood reaches near your planet it is either seige yourselves or succomb to the flood.

[The Four Corners Commonwealth]

Seeing as Star Wars characters regularly walk around planets without NBC suits to protect from germs indicates that Star Wars people must have kickass Devon equipment, or something of the kind. Even the ewoks didn't get space-yellow fever from mingling with outsiders, which would happen in real life. However, there have been successful quarantines of intelligent parasites, and flood are not super dangerous at the proto-gravemind phase (halo 1). The only reason the gravemind formed is because penitent tangent went rampant and just quit his job at being the monitor (basically, or he is a bumbling idiot) and let the quarantine zone go.

The reason disease did not spread like that was because Star Wars is unrealistic. Even beyond that of HALO.

Or they simply have excellent procedures, or perhaps they have a vaccine program that's similar to water fluoridation programs. It's not unfeasible considering it does happen in their universe. And we are talking slipspace, fungal zombies, light sabers, and ancient human empires, realism went out the window the second we clicked the forum

[Galnius]

The reason disease did not spread like that was because Star Wars is unrealistic. Even beyond that of HALO.

Or they simply have excellent procedures, or perhaps they have a vaccine program that's similar to water fluoridation programs. It's not unfeasible considering it does happen in their universe. And we are talking slipspace, fungal zombies, light sabers, and ancient human empires, realism went out the window the second we clicked the forum

If that was so new diseases would wreck havoc constantly. Of course there is no evidence stating they did not....

[Wisconsin9]

I doubt the Flood's ability to overrun seventy million planets before the Empire finds out about them, and one the Empire did find out about them that's game because they can produce well over a thousand Star Destroyers in a year.

They can know about it all they want. When the flood reaches near your planet it is either seige yourselves or succomb to the flood.

Or kick its ass like Ancient Humanity did. Your arguments at this point are basically that the Flood is invincible because its the Flood.

[Galnius]

They can know about it all they want. When the flood reaches near your planet it is either seige yourselves or succomb to the flood.

Or kick its ass like Ancient Humanity did. Your arguments at this point are basically that the Flood is invincible because its the Flood.

And your argument is that SW is better because it is SW. That is the simplicity here. Opinions are facts in this kind of debate. It is like debating which QB is best.

[Constaniana]

Or kick its ass like Ancient Humanity did. Your arguments at this point are basically that the Flood is invincible because its the Flood.

And your argument is that SW is better because it is SW. That is the simplicity here. Opinions are facts in this kind of debate. It is like debating which QB is best.

Except you can compare the statistics between Peyton Manning and a ten-year kid in a rec league and determine that Peyton is absolutely superior.

[Wisconsin9]

Or kick its ass like Ancient Humanity did. Your arguments at this point are basically that the Flood is invincible because its the Flood.

And your argument is that SW is better because it is SW. That is the simplicity here. Opinions are facts in this kind of debate. It is like debating which QB is best.

We've repeated time and time again that Star Wars would win because it has better tech, better industrial capacity, and an immeasurably vaster pool of labor for troops. We've repeatedly stated how exactly the Empire would contain and destroy the Flood when they encounter it. You've basically been ignoring them.

[Galnius]

And your argument is that SW is better because it is SW. That is the simplicity here. Opinions are facts in this kind of debate. It is like debating which QB is best.

Except you can compare the statistics between Peyton Manning and a ten-year kid in a rec league and determine that Peyton is absolutely superior.

This is more like comparing Peyton and Dan Marino. You cannot determine which is better unless using your own opinions.

[Wisconsin9]

Except you can compare the statistics between Peyton Manning and a ten-year kid in a rec league and determine that Peyton is absolutely superior.

This is more like comparing Peyton and Dan Marino. You cannot determine which is better unless using your own opinions.

Except, you know, the statistics about how well they've played. For example, if Manning throws more successful passes in one season than Marino does, it's safe to say that he was a better quarterback that season.

[Galnius]

And your argument is that SW is better because it is SW. That is the simplicity here. Opinions are facts in this kind of debate. It is like debating which QB is best.

We've repeated time and time again that Star Wars would win because it has better tech, better industrial capacity, and an immeasurably vaster pool of labor for troops. We've repeatedly stated how exactly the Empire would contain and destroy the Flood when they encounter it. You've basically been ignoring them.[/quo

Not ignoring. I know the UNSC and the Covenant would be quickly annihilated. You have been ignoring that the flood IS the flood. In the end, everything is dead maybe save single cellular organisms.

[Wisconsin9]

Not ignoring. I know the UNSC and the Covenant would be quickly annihilated. You have been ignoring that the flood IS the flood. In the end, everything is dead maybe save single cellular organisms.

NO NO NO NO MOTHERFUCKING NO.

The Flood was beaten before by a civilization much less advanced than the Galactic Empire in a way that didn't wipe itself out. A hundred thousand years later it happened again by a civilization much less advanced than the one that beat it before. The Flood is not invincible in any way, shape, or form. The games make it seem really really scary, when in fact it's utterly pathetic in every way, shape, and form except that it's a bit difficult to kill.

[Galnius]

This is more like comparing Peyton and Dan Marino. You cannot determine which is better unless using your own opinions.

Except, you know, the statistics about how well they've played. For example, if Manning throws more successful passes in one season than Marino does, it's safe to say that he was a better quarterback that season.

Except complete passes do not always result in touchdowns, or touchdowns wins, or wins divisional titles....etc. It all depends on how you.view it.

[The Legion of War]

We've repeated time and time again that Star Wars would win because it has better tech, better industrial capacity, and an immeasurably vaster pool of labor for troops. We've repeatedly stated how exactly the Empire would contain and destroy the Flood when they encounter it. You've basically been ignoring them.[/quo

Not ignoring. I know the UNSC and the Covenant would be quickly annihilated. You have been ignoring that the flood IS the flood. In the end, everything is dead maybe save single cellular organisms.

You just proved their point!

Your arguement there consisted of "this is the FLOOD guys".

At the very least the Star Wars people were discussing tactics the GE could use.

[Wisconsin9]

Except, you know, the statistics about how well they've played. For example, if Manning throws more successful passes in one season than Marino does, it's safe to say that he was a better quarterback that season.

Except complete passes do not always result in touchdowns, or touchdowns wins, or wins divisional titles....etc. It all depends on how you.view it.

I am literally punching myself in the face and trying not to scream right now.

[Constaniana]

Except complete passes do not always result in touchdowns, or touchdowns wins, or wins divisional titles....etc. It all depends on how you.view it.

I am literally punching myself in the face and trying not to scream right now.

You're not alone.

[Galnius]

Not ignoring. I know the UNSC and the Covenant would be quickly annihilated. You have been ignoring that the flood IS the flood. In the end, everything is dead maybe save single cellular organisms.

NO NO NO NO MOTHERFUCKING NO.

The Flood was beaten before by a civilization much less advanced than the Galactic Empire in a way that didn't wipe itself out. A hundred thousand years later it happened again by a civilization much less advanced than the one that beat it before. The Flood is not invincible in any way, shape, or form. The games make it seem really really scary, when in fact it's utterly pathetic in every way, shape, and form except that it's a bit difficult to kill.

A bit? It is impossible to finish off. That is why the only way to destroy it is by killing life universally.

[The Rebel Alliances]

We've repeated time and time again that Star Wars would win because it has better tech, better industrial capacity, and an immeasurably vaster pool of labor for troops. We've repeatedly stated how exactly the Empire would contain and destroy the Flood when they encounter it. You've basically been ignoring them.[/quo

Not ignoring. I know the UNSC and the Covenant would be quickly annihilated. You have been ignoring that the flood IS the flood. In the end, everything is dead maybe save single cellular organisms.

I have read the entire argument here. While you may concede that the UNSC and Covies are easily defeated by the Star Wars universe your argument that the Flood will consume all is quite entertaining considering they have been defeated by the same UNSC and Covies you just admitted that Star Wars would wipe the floor with. So the Flood is a poor side to take here.

As stated a single flood spore can destroy a planet. But Star Wars does destroy planets and really could care less about it. When flood are glassed they are dead and useless and do not spread. At least the ones who are glassed. It takes the Covies and entire fleet to do this. Star Wars can do the same thing with a single ship. And if its the Empire we are talking about here. Entire planet is gone in SECONDS with the Death Star.

Flood success record is non existant and just about any Star Wars civilization due to sheer scale and capabilities would triumph over the Flood.

So let it be known no Flood invasion shall ever conquer that Galaxy Far, Far away.

[Wisconsin9]

NO NO NO NO MOTHERFUCKING NO.

The Flood was beaten before by a civilization much less advanced than the Galactic Empire in a way that didn't wipe itself out. A hundred thousand years later it happened again by a civilization much less advanced than the one that beat it before. The Flood is not invincible in any way, shape, or form. The games make it seem really really scary, when in fact it's utterly pathetic in every way, shape, and form except that it's a bit difficult to kill.

A bit? It is impossible to finish off. That is why the only way to destroy it is by killing life universally.

NO NO NO NO MOTHERFUCKING NO.

How many times must I tell you Ancient Humanity very nearly wiped it out? And the only reason it survived after the Halo Array fired was because it had been stored on the Ark or one of the Halos or something like that.

[The Legion of War]

A bit? It is impossible to finish off. That is why the only way to destroy it is by killing life universally.

NO NO NO NO MOTHERFUCKING NO.

How many times must I tell you Ancient Humanity very nearly wiped it out? And the only reason it survived after the Halo Array fired was because it had been stored on the Ark or one of the Halos or something like that.

The Forerunner kept it on the rings to study... Which defeated the purpose of wiping out life to get rid of the Flood...

And just throwing this out here... We don't really know much about Ancient Humanity, except that it kicked the Flood's ass.

[Galnius]

We've repeated time and time again that Star Wars would win because it has better tech, better industrial capacity, and an immeasurably vaster pool of labor for troops. We've repeatedly stated how exactly the Empire would contain and destroy the Flood when they encounter it. You've basically been ignoring them.[/quo

Not ignoring. I know the UNSC and the Covenant would be quickly annihilated. You have been ignoring that the flood IS the flood. In the end, everything is dead maybe save single cellular organisms.

I have read the entire argument here. While you may concede that the UNSC and Covies are easily defeated by the Star Wars universe your argument that the Flood will consume all is quite entertaining considering they have been defeated by the same UNSC and Covies you just admitted that Star Wars would wipe the floor with. So the Flood is a poor side to take here.

As stated a single flood spore can destroy a planet. But Star Wars does destroy planets and really could care less about it. When flood are glassed they are dead and useless and do not spread. At least the ones who are glassed. It takes the Covies and entire fleet to do this. Star Wars can do the same thing with a single ship. And if its the Empire we are talking about here. Entire planet is gone in SECONDS with the Death Star.

Flood success record is non existant and just about any Star Wars civilization due to sheer scale and capabilities would triumph over the Flood.

So let it be known no Flood invasion shall ever conquer that Galaxy Far, Far away.

Flood would not conquer anything, just consume then die of starvation. Sad existense really. Pretty much, when they win, they lose, and vice versa.

[Wisconsin9]

NO NO NO NO MOTHERFUCKING NO.

How many times must I tell you Ancient Humanity very nearly wiped it out? And the only reason it survived after the Halo Array fired was because it had been stored on the Ark or one of the Halos or something like that.

The Forerunner kept it on the rings to study... Which defeated the purpose of wiping out life to get rid of the Flood...

And just throwing this out here... We don't really know much about Ancient Humanity, except that it kicked the Flood's ass.

Which for the purposes of this discussion is all that really matters, isn't it?

[The Four Corners Commonwealth]

NO NO NO NO MOTHERFUCKING NO.

The Flood was beaten before by a civilization much less advanced than the Galactic Empire in a way that didn't wipe itself out. A hundred thousand years later it happened again by a civilization much less advanced than the one that beat it before. The Flood is not invincible in any way, shape, or form. The games make it seem really really scary, when in fact it's utterly pathetic in every way, shape, and form except that it's a bit difficult to kill.

A bit? It is impossible to finish off. That is why the only way to destroy it is by killing life universally.

The flood have LOST. AGAIN AND AGAIN. In the books.In the games. In the comics. They ALWAYS lost their wars. Every time. IF the flood were the great and powerful beings people claim, they would NOT have lost to ancient humans. They would NOT have lost to the forerunners. They would NOT have lost to a shattered covenant and broken UNSC. BUT THEY DID. The flood may be around for a long time. But even smallpox got wiped out with 20th century earth tech. It was, and only now exists as research samples in 2 countries. It may take centuries, even millenia, to wipe out the flood. BUT it CAN happen. They can be contained. They can be pursued by droids that they cannot overcome. They can be managed, and in time possibly cured or vaccinated against having your nervous system hijacked (it happened with Sgt. Johnson, which proves it CAN happen). The SW AI is much more competent than the Forerunner AI (rampancy is never seen in movies).The totalitarian state would not hesitate to eradicate planets that may contain flood, or use superweapons to outright destroy them. But even in conventional warfare, the flood lost. This also hasn't considered the empires large bioweapons or SW nanorobotics. And in general I'd say nanorobots > flood, since flood can't just gobble them like pez.

[Galnius]

The Forerunner kept it on the rings to study... Which defeated the purpose of wiping out life to get rid of the Flood...

And just throwing this out here... We don't really know much about Ancient Humanity, except that it kicked the Flood's ass.

Which for the purposes of this discussion is all that really matters, isn't it?

No b/c ancient humanity could have made SW look like kids on a playground. They could have also had sticks. Their "victory" is not relevant due to lack of info.