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Initial Thoughts on Discovery

Love it
39
14%
Like it
65
24%
So-so
75
27%
Dislike it
31
11%
Hate it
66
24%
 
Total votes : 276

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:29 pm

Rewatching Where Silence Has Lease again tonight.

Even though I’ve already watched it multiple times before and know the plot, it is still somewhat unsettling. Nowhere near the creepiest thing I’ve seen, but enough to make me uneasy.

And they’re just now boarding the “Yamato”...

Edit: Dammit, I forgot about the ambient sounds.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:01 am

New haven america wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Is it just me that wants to see an entire multi-season spinoff series of Star Trek set in the mirror universe? Seeing humans being total asshats across the quadrant just seems so much more believable.

We already have that.

Yes I'm entirely aware, but those are as little fragments, secondary elements to the main impetus of the series.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:36 pm

This argument between Tuvok and Paris about writing never gets old, especially when other people start butting in.

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I just realized, but a lot of the Star Trek security heads seem anti-social in some way.

TNG -> Yar(?) and Worf

DS9 -> Odo

VOY -> Tuvok

ENT -> Reed

Not sure about TOS (haven't done a full watch-through), DIS, LD, or PIC (haven't watched a single episode).

I guess this would probably be an obvious thing to pick up on, but I only did recently.

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In terms of movie musical tracks, I think First Contact and Beyond might be my favorites. Favorite warp effect would be the one in Beyond, only can be seen for like ten seconds in total but looks the best to me, visually looks like the warp we know from Berman Trek but with the addition of the warp bubble.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:56 am

Just think about this recently, i really don't like the route they went wirh Eddington. It all makes sense in story, sure but it could have been better.

They had an opportunity to really explore how someone can be sympathetic to a questionable cause and throw their life away over an ardent belief that the cause not only just, but morally obligatory for them to support.

Instead they turned him into a dweeb living out his own hero fantasy and delusions of grandeur.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:31 pm

Today is First Contact Day, apparently.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:12 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:Today is First Contact Day, apparently.

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Postby Brusia » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:52 pm

Ooh, looks like Q's making a comeback :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk9F90wklRQ

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Postby Syndic Australia » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:34 pm

Brusia wrote:Ooh, looks like Q's making a comeback :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk9F90wklRQ


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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:02 pm

Janeway reveal for Prodigy apparently.

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Kinda love Janeway and Voyager in general so I might have to go against my better judgement and watch this show whenever it comes out the pipeline. Who knows? There might just be coffee in there.

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More like you don't like the direction he's going .
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Postby Crysuko » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:46 am

Maybe it’s just my millennial attention span, but I found the story of Picard impossible to follow. It just seems to excitedly pinball from set piece to old character to Romulan techno-mysticism, to the point I just gave up towards the end and just tried to enjoy the spectacle. “Oh, we’re doing this now? k” was my most common thought.

And portraying the man himself as not a wise and learned diplomat, but a whiny moralist was assassination with with a Barret 50 cal.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:53 am

Crysuko wrote:Maybe it’s just my millennial attention span, but I found the story of Picard impossible to follow. It just seems to excitedly pinball from set piece to old character to Romulan techno-mysticism, to the point I just gave up towards the end and just tried to enjoy the spectacle. “Oh, we’re doing this now? k” was my most common thought.

And portraying the man himself as not a wise and learned diplomat, but a whiny moralist was assassination with with a Barret 50 cal.


Remember, Picard never moralised in TNG. Especially not when acting as Data's defence counsel in Measure of a Man.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:17 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Maybe it’s just my millennial attention span, but I found the story of Picard impossible to follow. It just seems to excitedly pinball from set piece to old character to Romulan techno-mysticism, to the point I just gave up towards the end and just tried to enjoy the spectacle. “Oh, we’re doing this now? k” was my most common thought.

And portraying the man himself as not a wise and learned diplomat, but a whiny moralist was assassination with with a Barret 50 cal.


Remember, Picard never moralised in TNG. Especially not when acting as Data's defence counsel in Measure of a Man.


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Postby New haven america » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Maybe it’s just my millennial attention span, but I found the story of Picard impossible to follow. It just seems to excitedly pinball from set piece to old character to Romulan techno-mysticism, to the point I just gave up towards the end and just tried to enjoy the spectacle. “Oh, we’re doing this now? k” was my most common thought.

And portraying the man himself as not a wise and learned diplomat, but a whiny moralist was assassination with with a Barret 50 cal.


Remember, Picard never moralised in TNG. Especially not when acting as Data's defence counsel in Measure of a Man.

The difference is that Picard was the lead of TNG, while the lead of STP is Patrick Stewart.
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:46 pm

Tarsonis wrote:


More like you don't like the direction he's going .


Much as I'm usually down to put NHA in his place, he basically did admit that:

Q: Switching to Picard, what did you guys learn from the first season in terms of pulling off the show that you’re bringing into season two?

A: Figure out the end earlier. If you're going to do a serialized show, you have the whole story before you start shooting. It's more like a movie in that way — you better know the end of your third act before you start filming your first scene.


Implicit, that they had no idea where Picard was going to end when they started it, else that wouldn't be the lesson. :p

Not that any of us are shocked of course.

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Postby New haven america » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:37 pm

Twilight Imperium wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
More like you don't like the direction he's going .


1. Much as I'm usually down to put NHA in his place, he basically did admit that:

Q: Switching to Picard, what did you guys learn from the first season in terms of pulling off the show that you’re bringing into season two?

A: Figure out the end earlier. If you're going to do a serialized show, you have the whole story before you start shooting. It's more like a movie in that way — you better know the end of your third act before you start filming your first scene.


2. Implicit, that they had no idea where Picard was going to end when they started it, else that wouldn't be the lesson. :p

Not that any of us are shocked of course.

1. That implies most of ya'll actually have arguments worth anything to begin with. ;) (Which is still yet to happen)
2. Well yes, Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman were writing it and Alex and Akiva are notorious for not planning anything ahead of time. For example, Alex wrote the final episode of STP mere days before they started actually filming it.

They also wrote a script of STD 12 hours before they filmed the episode.

For reference, in normal tv production, an episode needs to be written weeks or even months before filming begins. An episode written even 2 weeks before it'll be filmed is considered absolutely ridiculous to most studios, producers, directors, etc... Maybe even a fireable offense.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:12 pm

Twilight Imperium wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
More like you don't like the direction he's going .


Much as I'm usually down to put NHA in his place, he basically did admit that:

Q: Switching to Picard, what did you guys learn from the first season in terms of pulling off the show that you’re bringing into season two?

A: Figure out the end earlier. If you're going to do a serialized show, you have the whole story before you start shooting. It's more like a movie in that way — you better know the end of your third act before you start filming your first scene.


Implicit, that they had no idea where Picard was going to end when they started it, else that wouldn't be the lesson. :p

Not that any of us are shocked of course.



Mmm no he didn't. He admitted they didn't know where the ending was gonna be. As a writer myself I can tell you that shit happens more often than not. You have a premise, a plot trajectory, etc. but the ending is still up in the air as you try to weave those plot threads into a satisfying conclusion. Not knowing how your work is gonna end precisely, is not the same as "Doesn't know what they're doing."

that bit is just more of NHA's nonsense about how much he hates nutrek.
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:26 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Mmm no he didn't. He admitted they didn't know where the ending was gonna be. As a writer myself I can tell you that shit happens more often than not. You have a premise, a plot trajectory, etc. but the ending is still up in the air as you try to weave those plot threads into a satisfying conclusion. Not knowing how your work is gonna end precisely, is not the same as "Doesn't know what they're doing."

that bit is just more of NHA's nonsense about how much he hates nutrek.


You know what, fair. It might have been valid before NHA agreed with it, but that made me realize I was wrong lol

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Postby Crysuko » Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:19 am

New haven america wrote:
Twilight Imperium wrote:
1. Much as I'm usually down to put NHA in his place, he basically did admit that:



2. Implicit, that they had no idea where Picard was going to end when they started it, else that wouldn't be the lesson. :p

Not that any of us are shocked of course.

1. That implies most of ya'll actually have arguments worth anything to begin with. ;) (Which is still yet to happen)
2. Well yes, Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman were writing it and Alex and Akiva are notorious for not planning anything ahead of time. For example, Alex wrote the final episode of STP mere days before they started actually filming it.

They also wrote a script of STD 12 hours before they filmed the episode.

For reference, in normal tv production, an episode needs to be written weeks or even months before filming begins. An episode written even 2 weeks before it'll be filmed is considered absolutely ridiculous to most studios, producers, directors, etc... Maybe even a fireable offense.

it's like STD is a sump into which all the filth and dregs inevitably drain into.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:25 am

New haven america wrote:They also wrote a script of STD 12 hours before they filmed the episode.


Which one?
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Vassenor wrote:
New haven america wrote:They also wrote a script of STD 12 hours before they filmed the episode.


Which one?

does it matter?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:29 am

Crysuko wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Which one?

does it matter?


Yes, actually.
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Postby Crysuko » Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:52 am

Vassenor wrote:
Crysuko wrote:does it matter?


Yes, actually.

they're all bilge, what difference does it make
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This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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