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Initial Thoughts on Discovery

Love it
49
14%
Like it
87
24%
So-so
99
28%
Dislike it
41
11%
Hate it
84
23%
 
Total votes : 360

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Postby Brusia » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:17 pm

New haven america wrote:Oh, Farscape's on Prime!

Awesome! Hopefully it'll stick around on there for awhile, I only made it halfway through the series on Netflix before they dropped it

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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:55 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Prophecy is actually. Really decent episode with great guest stars

I just remember that episode for Neelix landing some Klingon booty.


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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:58 am

Brusia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Oh, Farscape's on Prime!

Awesome! Hopefully it'll stick around on there for awhile, I only made it halfway through the series on Netflix before they dropped it


They even included the PK wars in season 4.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:50 am

I watched "Mirror, Mirror" yesterday. Really enjoyable episode. Also, Spock with a goatee.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:45 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:I watched "Mirror, Mirror" yesterday. Really enjoyable episode. Also, Spock with a goatee.

I feel bad for Mirror Spock. He was actually a good guy, but his goatee has become shorthand for "Evil duplicate".
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:47 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I watched "Mirror, Mirror" yesterday. Really enjoyable episode. Also, Spock with a goatee.

I feel bad for Mirror Spock. He was actually a good guy, but his goatee has become shorthand for "Evil duplicate".

Yes, it is unfortunate.
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:48 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I feel bad for Mirror Spock. He was actually a good guy, but his goatee has become shorthand for "Evil duplicate".

Yes, it is unfortunate.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that DIS is AU, or they go to serious lengths to unfuck the myriad continuity errors.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:52 am

Crysuko wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Yes, it is unfortunate.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that DIS is AU, or they go to serious lengths to unfuck the myriad continuity errors.

I'm relatively new to the franchise, so can you please tell me what DIS stands for? Thanks.
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:54 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Crysuko wrote:I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that DIS is AU, or they go to serious lengths to unfuck the myriad continuity errors.

I'm relatively new to the franchise, so can you please tell me what DIS stands for? Thanks.

Discovery. Much potential, much disappointment.
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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:55 am

Crysuko wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I'm relatively new to the franchise, so can you please tell me what DIS stands for? Thanks.

Discovery. Much potential, much disappointment.

Oh, Discovery. Still have to watch it though.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:57 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Discovery. Much potential, much disappointment.

Oh, Discovery. Still have to watch it though.

Let me save you some time. Don't. Main character is a massive Mary Sue, has no congruence with the other series and just generally shows a flagrant disregard for good writing.
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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:46 am

Crysuko wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Oh, Discovery. Still have to watch it though.

Let me save you some time. Don't. Main character is a massive Mary Sue, has no congruence with the other series and just generally shows a flagrant disregard for good writing.

I still kinda want to watch it, even if it is really bad.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:23 am

Crysuko wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Oh, Discovery. Still have to watch it though.

Let me save you some time. Don't. Main character is a massive Mary Sue, has no congruence with the other series and just generally shows a flagrant disregard for good writing.


Oh hey, we're throwing Mary Sue around at random again.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:24 am

Crysuko wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Oh, Discovery. Still have to watch it though.

Let me save you some time. Don't. Main character is a massive Mary Sue, has no congruence with the other series and just generally shows a flagrant disregard for good writing.


Having a "main" character at all is pretty incongruent with Trek
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Postby New haven america » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:32 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Yes, it is unfortunate.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that DIS is AU, or they go to serious lengths to unfuck the myriad continuity errors.

It's not, they've said it's not hundreds of times.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:35 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Let me save you some time. Don't. Main character is a massive Mary Sue, has no congruence with the other series and just generally shows a flagrant disregard for good writing.


Oh hey, we're throwing Mary Sue around at random again.

She is.

Michael constantly disobeys orders and is always rewarded for that, is as intelligent and as skilled as an commodore or an admiral while still only being a Lt. Cmdr., is constantly shown in the right even when those actions are wrong, etc...
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:26 pm

New haven america wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh hey, we're throwing Mary Sue around at random again.

She is.

Michael constantly disobeys orders and is always rewarded for that, is as intelligent and as skilled as an commodore or an admiral while still only being a Lt. Cmdr., is constantly shown in the right even when those actions are wrong, etc...

Not to mention she's family to the most popular character from TOS. I try not to be one of those guys, but yeah. The Mary Sue is strong with that one.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:30 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Let me save you some time. Don't. Main character is a massive Mary Sue, has no congruence with the other series and just generally shows a flagrant disregard for good writing.

I still kinda want to watch it, even if it is really bad.

Its not that bad honestly, i had no interest in it when it was first announced but ive liked it quite a lot since its come out.
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Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Let me save you some time. Don't. Main character is a massive Mary Sue, has no congruence with the other series and just generally shows a flagrant disregard for good writing.

I still kinda want to watch it, even if it is really bad.

It's not.
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Postby NERVUN » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:29 am

New haven america wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh hey, we're throwing Mary Sue around at random again.

She is.

Michael constantly disobeys orders and is always rewarded for that, is as intelligent and as skilled as an commodore or an admiral while still only being a Lt. Cmdr., is constantly shown in the right even when those actions are wrong, etc...

... *coughs*everyothersinglecharacterinTrek*coughs*
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Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Let me save you some time. Don't. Main character is a massive Mary Sue, has no congruence with the other series and just generally shows a flagrant disregard for good writing.

I still kinda want to watch it, even if it is really bad.

It's actually quite good. I rather like it and am (very impatiently) waiting for the drop of the next ep.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:46 am

NERVUN wrote:
New haven america wrote:She is.

Michael constantly disobeys orders and is always rewarded for that, is as intelligent and as skilled as an commodore or an admiral while still only being a Lt. Cmdr., is constantly shown in the right even when those actions are wrong, etc...

... *coughs*everyothersinglecharacterinTrek*coughs*

Yeah, like Data, who was ultra-intelligent and strong and advanced and... couldn't feel any emotion or sense whatsoever... Or Riker who was incredibly intelligent and driven while also dealing with long lasting and seemingly never ending trauma due to his childhood and the Pegasus incident, while also being the one who ended up destroying the Enterprise. Or Sisko, a Cmdr. who sucks at diplomacy but who was reluctantly put in charge of a backwater space station that ended up being the focal point of a generation defining war and learning that his entire existence was a lie.

Yep, real bunch of Gary Stews right here.
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Sisko ended up being literal Jesus by the end of the first episode.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:03 am

Vassenor wrote:Sisko ended up being literal Jesus by the end of the first episode.

No, he ended up being the emissary.

Still doesn't change the fact that he sucked at diplomacy and nearly ended up destroying the station, could never let go of a grudge until it was too late, couldn't let go of anything really, had to watch his wife and son die right in front of him, got to learn that his entire life was a lie, need I go on?
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:19 am

New haven america wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Sisko ended up being literal Jesus by the end of the first episode.

No, he ended up being the emissary.

Still doesn't change the fact that he sucked at diplomacy and nearly ended up destroying the station, could never let go of a grudge until it was too late, couldn't let go of anything really, had to watch his wife and son die right in front of him, got to learn that his entire life was a lie, need I go on?


Wait when did Jake die? Aside from that alternate timeline episode when he killed himself to break Sisko out of the negative space wedgie of the week?
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