Scifi TV Discussion Thread

[Grenartia]

Or other argument: Why does Tom need to be a commissioned officer, hold any rank, or get promoted no less? He's the pilot and...that's it, he has no authority over anyone else, no staff, no crew, but he gets a commission, a promotion, a demotion, and repromoted, while Harry languishes.

IIRC, he was given the probationary rank of Lieutenant as an incentive/recognition of his unique knowledge of the Badlands/Maquis hiding spots, I guess?

Actually, looking at Memory Alpha, Tommy boy was conn officer, as were several other commissioned officers (notably Geordi and Worf in TNG season 1, and Ro later on). He was probably in command of the various Ensigns who relieved him when he was off duty or fucking around in sickbay with the Doc. Shit, he probably still commanded those ensigns on seniority when he got demoted.

Counter Argument: Deanna Troi. In any realistic scenario she would have been an Ensign, an Lt at best, who served under Crusher, but on the Enterprise somehow she's part of the senior staff and holds appropriate rank.

Well, she was an empath. And however largely useless her mind reading usually was in the situation, it makes sense someone with those abilities would be pretty high up.

That's my take on it, too.

Also, I think the rank is mostly so her patients would take her seriously. I mean, would you take counselling from an ensign?

I mean, wasn't Ezri an ensign?

Well, she was an empath. And however largely useless her mind reading usually was in the situation, it makes sense someone with those abilities would be pretty high up.

Also, I think the rank is mostly so her patients would take her seriously. I mean, would you take counselling from an ensign?

Case in point: Garak giving Ezri shit.

That's not fair. Garak would've given Ezri shit even if she were a full fucking Admiral.

[Vassenor]

Or other argument: Why does Tom need to be a commissioned officer, hold any rank, or get promoted no less? He's the pilot and...that's it, he has no authority over anyone else, no staff, no crew, but he gets a commission, a promotion, a demotion, and repromoted, while Harry languishes.

IIRC, he was given the probationary rank of Lieutenant as an incentive/recognition of his unique knowledge of the Badlands/Maquis hiding spots, I guess?

Actually, looking at Memory Alpha, Tommy boy was conn officer, as were several other commissioned officers (notably Geordi and Worf in TNG season 1, and Ro later on). He was probably in command of the various Ensigns who relieved him when he was off duty or fucking around in sickbay with the Doc. Shit, he probably still commanded those ensigns on seniority when he got demoted.

Well, she was an empath. And however largely useless her mind reading usually was in the situation, it makes sense someone with those abilities would be pretty high up.

That's my take on it, too.

Also, I think the rank is mostly so her patients would take her seriously. I mean, would you take counselling from an ensign?

I mean, wasn't Ezri an ensign?

Case in point: Garak giving Ezri shit.

That's not fair. Garak would've given Ezri shit even if she were a full fucking Admiral.

Tom was given his old rank back which is why he's wearing normal rank insignia not the bar ones worn by all the other Maquis in the crew.

[Bralia]

I've joked that this is the Stargate thread before, but now something serious has happened that I actually want to mention to others and this place is the only place I have available to me where there are Stargate fans:

Carmen Argenziano died. . Jacob Carter, Sam's dad. He was great, I loved him, one of the best guest characters on the show. He passed just four days ago. I literally just looked him up to see how old he was, because he was being teased about it in an episode of House.

[Grenartia]

I've joked that this is the Stargate thread before, but now something serious has happened that I actually want to mention to others and this place is the only place I have available to me where there are Stargate fans:

Carmen Argenziano died. . Jacob Carter, Sam's dad. He was great, I loved him, one of the best guest characters on the show. He passed just four days ago. I literally just looked him up to see how old he was, because he was being teased about it in an episode of House.

Fuck. May he rest in peace.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I've joked that this is the Stargate thread before, but now something serious has happened that I actually want to mention to others and this place is the only place I have available to me where there are Stargate fans:

Carmen Argenziano died. . Jacob Carter, Sam's dad. He was great, I loved him, one of the best guest characters on the show. He passed just four days ago. I literally just looked him up to see how old he was, because he was being teased about it in an episode of House.

Saw that, rip jacob.


Man i fucking love stargate, wish Universe had a longer run. Heard that new stand alone mini series they did was not that great

[DACOROMANIA]

If you were in charge of writing the next Star Trek television series, what would you do?

I could continue the Star Trek saga to the next level of history. There are many things not shown in the movies or in TV series. Such as the Iconians, the new Romulan states and so more on.

However, I may put in charge a plan for the rescue of the Vulcanian population > back in time, before of the Vulcan planet destruction. In the last movies the Star Trek timeline was changed and even the paradox made changes everything from the old series. The old canon may disappear irreparable or not applying anymore. But this was started by the old canon of ST movies and series.

In the movie when Vulcan planet is destroyed by Nero, just the elite people escape. The rest of them dies, that Vulcanians left are around 10,000.
So... if time travel is possible, someone may have the idea to go back in time for to rescue how many people as possible from Vulcan planet, but without to change the events happening and tracking the survivor in the future timeline after the moment when he jumped in the past time. A small crew related to those of USS Enterprise may proceed so.
Physics laws are saying that in the case of a time changing a paradox may appear or even if you intervene in the past then the results may affect even yourself. You may not ever acknowledge the destruction of Vulcan if that didn't happened and so on you may never rescue them. As example, if you go in time to kill the young Spock, then the older Spock never existed after his death as younger. The logic is very clear.
The old Spock had an advanced tech ship which may not exist without the scientists and workers who made it. While Romulan tech ships aren't affected. So, without a part of those workers and scientists from Vulcan improving that tech, how may that ship be in that way?

[Tarsonis]

I've joked that this is the Stargate thread before, but now something serious has happened that I actually want to mention to others and this place is the only place I have available to me where there are Stargate fans:

Carmen Argenziano died. . Jacob Carter, Sam's dad. He was great, I loved him, one of the best guest characters on the show. He passed just four days ago. I literally just looked him up to see how old he was, because he was being teased about it in an episode of House.

Saw that, rip jacob.


Man i fucking love stargate, wish Universe had a longer run. Heard that new stand alone mini series they did was not that great

I loved universe when it was airing, but I think I just had fan goggles. Went back and watched it again, I saw why it got cancelled. With the exception of Sir Robert Carlyle, the show was mostly a dud, even Lou Diamond Phillips was kinda meh.

[New haven america]

The Expanse season 3 was fucking fire and SyFy (God I hate writing it that way) are idiots for canceling it.

[Ameriganastan]

The Expanse season 3 was fucking fire and SyFy (God I hate writing it that way) are idiots for canceling it.

SyFy, ironically enough, is pretty cruel to sci-fi programs. The last one I remember having a good, long run on that channel was Eureka. And that ended back in 2012.

[Imperial isa]

The Expanse season 3 was fucking fire and SyFy (God I hate writing it that way) are idiots for canceling it.

Way behind wayching that show and yes it shit way to do it

SyFy, ironically enough, is pretty cruel to sci-fi programs. The last one I remember having a good, long run on that channel was Eureka. And that ended back in 2012.

I got told it nothing but reality programming and sharks.

[Grenartia]

The Expanse season 3 was fucking fire and SyFy (God I hate writing it that way) are idiots for canceling it.

SyFy, ironically enough, is pretty cruel to sci-fi programs. The last one I remember having a good, long run on that channel was Eureka. And that ended back in 2012.

They gotta save money for WRASSLIN! and SHARKNADO 23 and whatever flop they hope will be the next Sharknado.

[Ameriganastan]

I got told it nothing but reality programming and sharks.

They've actually been on a supernatural bend the past few years. The Magicians, Wynonna Earp, Van Helsing, a few one and done monster of the week shows, Channel Zero, etc.

[South Vangaurdia]

Star Trek is amazing. Roddenberry was ahead of his time.

[Auristania]

I've joked that this is the Stargate thread before, but now something serious has happened that I actually want to mention to others and this place is the only place I have available to me where there are Stargate fans:

Carmen Argenziano died. . Jacob Carter, Sam's dad. He was great, I loved him, one of the best guest characters on the show. He passed just four days ago. I literally just looked him up to see how old he was, because he was being teased about it in an episode of House.

Fuck. May he rest in peace.

Amen

[Auristania]

Or other argument: Why does Tom need to be a commissioned officer, hold any rank, or get promoted no less? He's the pilot and...that's it, he has no authority over anyone else, no staff, no crew, but he gets a commission, a promotion, a demotion, and repromoted, while Harry languishes.

IIRC, he was given the probationary rank of Lieutenant as an incentive/recognition of his unique knowledge of the Badlands/Maquis hiding spots, I guess?

Actually, looking at Memory Alpha, Tommy boy was conn officer, as were several other commissioned officers (notably Geordi and Worf in TNG season 1, and Ro later on). He was probably in command of the various Ensigns who relieved him when he was off duty or fucking around in sickbay with the Doc. Shit, he probably still commanded those ensigns on seniority when he got demoted.

Well, she was an empath. And however largely useless her mind reading usually was in the situation, it makes sense someone with those abilities would be pretty high up.

That's my take on it, too.

Also, I think the rank is mostly so her patients would take her seriously. I mean, would you take counselling from an ensign?

I mean, wasn't Ezri an ensign?

Case in point: Garak giving Ezri shit.

That's not fair. Garak would've given Ezri shit even if she were a full fucking Admiral.

Gene's Vision TM is that everybody must be an officer. Even redshirts are Scurity Officers.

O'Brien is Chief Petty Officer = Sergeant Major. Worf's adoptive father says Don't call me 'Sir', I used to work for a living. Those are the only exceptions I know.

[Tarsonis]

IIRC, he was given the probationary rank of Lieutenant as an incentive/recognition of his unique knowledge of the Badlands/Maquis hiding spots, I guess?

Actually, looking at Memory Alpha, Tommy boy was conn officer, as were several other commissioned officers (notably Geordi and Worf in TNG season 1, and Ro later on). He was probably in command of the various Ensigns who relieved him when he was off duty or fucking around in sickbay with the Doc. Shit, he probably still commanded those ensigns on seniority when he got demoted.



That's my take on it, too.



I mean, wasn't Ezri an ensign?



That's not fair. Garak would've given Ezri shit even if she were a full fucking Admiral.

Gene's Vision TM is that everybody must be an officer. Even redshirts are Scurity Officers.

O'Brien is Chief Petty Officer = Sergeant Major. Worf's adoptive father says Don't call me 'Sir', I used to work for a living. Those are the only exceptions I know.

Can’t say for the show but in the movies enlisted crewmen were a thing

[Vassenor]

Gene's Vision TM is that everybody must be an officer. Even redshirts are Scurity Officers.

O'Brien is Chief Petty Officer = Sergeant Major. Worf's adoptive father says Don't call me 'Sir', I used to work for a living. Those are the only exceptions I know.

Can’t say for the show but in the movies enlisted crewmen were a thing

Along with everyone described as "Crewman" rather than "Ensign" in the shows.

[Tekania]

Can’t say for the show but in the movies enlisted crewmen were a thing

Along with everyone described as "Crewman" rather than "Ensign" in the shows.

Indeed, there was enlisted in Gene's shows, it's just differentiation was not notable because neither the enlisted nor Ensigns in TOS had rank insignia. Many of the operations "Red Shirts" in TOS were enlisted personnel, not commissioned officers, frequently addressed as "crewman".... While the show focusted on the officers the bulk of the ship was populated by what we would consider NCOs... which would be fairly typical of a Naval type setting.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Whilst im happy Stamets is getting to see his husband again and that Culbert is back, i was sooooooo fucking hoping it would be Lorca as the "monster" instead.

Ahhhhhhhhhh so disappointed!

Just give me more Jason Isaacs the man was soo good!

[Cameroi]

i can't really comment on current itterations, because dispite trek having 'saved my life' so to speak, fifty years ago when i was in high school, for more then a decade now, i haven't really kept up do to not having a televison of my own, nor, for much of anything other then star trek, needing or wanting one.

sorry i don't for this reason, have anything to contribute to ongoing media discussions.

[Tarsonis]

Whilst im happy Stamets is getting to see his husband again and that Culbert is back, i was sooooooo fucking hoping it would be Lorca as the "monster" instead.

Ahhhhhhhhhh so disappointed!

Just give me more Jason Isaacs the man was soo good!

This season 1 or 2?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Whilst im happy Stamets is getting to see his husband again and that Culbert is back, i was sooooooo fucking hoping it would be Lorca as the "monster" instead.

Ahhhhhhhhhh so disappointed!

Just give me more Jason Isaacs the man was soo good!

This season 1 or 2?

Season 2, was referring to the most recent episode.

Ill specify that more from now on.

[Ameriganastan]

Tonight on The Orville: A large amount of shit hits a very big fan.

We finally meet the Kaylon's, and turns out they're about to go Terminator on the whole galaxy. Ain't that something.

[Tekania]

Tonight on The Orville: A large amount of shit hits a very big fan.

We finally meet the Kaylon's, and turns out they're about to go Terminator on the whole galaxy. Ain't that something.

My personal prediction is that Isaac will end up turning or betraying the Kaylon. I do not think he is actually on his people's side.

[Ism]

Tonight on The Orville: A large amount of shit hits a very big fan.

We finally meet the Kaylon's, and turns out they're about to go Terminator on the whole galaxy. Ain't that something.

You know, you hear "legendarily racist" and you know it's bad, but then you see the bones of 500,000 organics and it just hits you right in the face.

Tonight on The Orville: A large amount of shit hits a very big fan.

We finally meet the Kaylon's, and turns out they're about to go Terminator on the whole galaxy. Ain't that something.

My personal prediction is that Isaac will end up turning or betraying the Kaylon. I do not think he is actually on his people's side.

I don't see how they get out of this without his help. But whether he's been on their side all along or not I'm not sure of.