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Initial Thoughts on Discovery

Love it
49
14%
Like it
87
24%
So-so
99
28%
Dislike it
41
11%
Hate it
84
23%
 
Total votes : 360

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Living Witness was always a good episode.



Oh god, the bit with Geordi.

Living Witness is indeed an excellent episode. More Picardo, less Neelix is the way to make an excellent episode.

Discovery finale? wtf?

The only solution to WWII in space is to genocide the Space Nazis.
Go Prime Directive on their Ass. That's logical, Captain.

But then Michael gives the Big reD Button to the Lady high Inquisitrix because nothing could possibly go wrong???

Every single nu-Klingon in DIScovery would press that button immediately.
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Postby Collatis » Tue May 29, 2018 8:33 pm

So far season four of Enterprise has already surpassed the previous three in quality imo. Shame that’s when it got cancelled.

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Postby Grenartia » Tue May 29, 2018 10:29 pm

Auristania wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Planned on paying for the service, but my life has been collapsing in on itself like Vorash's sun, so I haven't had a chance.



Living Witness was always a good episode.



Oh god, the bit with Geordi.

Living Witness is indeed an excellent episode. More Picardo, less Neelix is the way to make an excellent episode.

Discovery finale? wtf?

The only solution to WWII in space is to genocide the Space Nazis.
Go Prime Directive on their Ass. That's logical, Captain.

But then Michael gives the Big reD Button to the Lady high Inquisitrix because nothing could possibly go wrong???

Every single nu-Klingon in DIScovery would press that button immediately.
FOR HONOUR!!!


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Auristania wrote:Living Witness is indeed an excellent episode. More Picardo, less Neelix is the way to make an excellent episode.

Discovery finale? wtf?

The only solution to WWII in space is to genocide the Space Nazis.
Go Prime Directive on their Ass. That's logical, Captain.

But then Michael gives the Big reD Button to the Lady high Inquisitrix because nothing could possibly go wrong???

Every single nu-Klingon in DIScovery would press that button immediately.
FOR HONOUR!!!



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Jebus, have either of you ever heard of spoilers?

Collatis wrote:So far season four of Enterprise has already surpassed the previous three in quality imo. Shame that’s when it got cancelled.


Which episode are you on currently?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue May 29, 2018 10:32 pm

Collatis wrote:So far season four of Enterprise has already surpassed the previous three in quality imo.

Like that's an accomplishment...
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Postby Collatis » Tue May 29, 2018 10:33 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Collatis wrote:So far season four of Enterprise has already surpassed the previous three in quality imo. Shame that’s when it got cancelled.

Which episode are you on currently?

Just watched “Kir’Shara”, the last in the Vulcan-trilogy.

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Postby Grenartia » Tue May 29, 2018 11:05 pm

Collatis wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Which episode are you on currently?

Just watched “Kir’Shara”, the last in the Vulcan-trilogy.


It gets better, trust me.

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Collatis wrote:So far season four of Enterprise has already surpassed the previous three in quality imo.

Like that's an accomplishment...


Say what you will about ENT season 1, it was no worse than TNG season 1, and ENT season 2 was decent. Season 3 was good, and 4 was even better.

Except for that god-awful finale.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:39 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Ah the limitations of TNG’s budget. The Romulans expected to subjugate Vulcan with 2000 troops? 2000 troops couldn’t occupy DC, let alone a planet.

They could have gotten around that limitation if they really tried. Seems more like a case of sci-fi writers have no sense of scale or star trek's writers being woefully out of their element when it comes to anything military (With some great exceptions mind you).
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Postby Rostavykhan » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:30 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Collatis wrote:So far season four of Enterprise has already surpassed the previous three in quality imo.

Like that's an accomplishment...


TBH I'm still a few episodes into Season 1 and I think a few episodes are neat.

I liked Terra Nova. The idea of rediscovering the survivors of a lost colony was cool.

On another note, I'm finally on Season 7 of DS9.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:23 pm

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Ameriganastan wrote:Like that's an accomplishment...


TBH I'm still a few episodes into Season 1 and I think a few episodes are neat.

I liked Terra Nova. The idea of rediscovering the survivors of a lost colony was cool.

On another note, I'm finally on Season 7 of DS9.

How'd you like it so far?
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Postby Rostavykhan » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:39 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
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TBH I'm still a few episodes into Season 1 and I think a few episodes are neat.

I liked Terra Nova. The idea of rediscovering the survivors of a lost colony was cool.

On another note, I'm finally on Season 7 of DS9.

How'd you like it so far?


Enterprise, or Deep Space Nine?

Because I think Enterprise is alright so far. Deep Space Nine is awesome.
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Postby Brusia » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:38 pm

Speaking of DS9, the new DS9 expansion finally came out in Star Trek Online. It's a little short at the moment (though I'm pretty sure they'll be adding on additional missions over time) but alot of fun, and I'd definitely recommend it to DS9 fans (especially if you enjoyed the Magnificent Ferengi episode).

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Postby Starblaydia » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:42 am

Brusia wrote:Speaking of DS9, the new DS9 expansion finally came out in Star Trek Online. It's a little short at the moment (though I'm pretty sure they'll be adding on additional missions over time) but alot of fun, and I'd definitely recommend it to DS9 fans (especially if you enjoyed the Magnificent Ferengi episode).

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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:28 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:How'd you like it so far?


Enterprise, or Deep Space Nine?

Because I think Enterprise is alright so far. Deep Space Nine is awesome.

I was asking about DS9. I find it to be a nice break from how incredibly naive and idealistic the other trek shows could be.
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Tarsonis wrote:Enterprise might suck, but Shran is still a favorite

Shame it didn't get another season he was slated to be a main character if it did.
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Star Trek: Discovery showrunners Berg and Harberts are out, replaced by executive producer Alex Kurtzman

Apparently the changes are not due to creative issues, but operational and leadership issues, in particular it seems the two showrunners were incredibly hostile and abusive towards the writing staff, and that several members of the team threatened to leave the show or file complaints with HR over how uncomfortable it was now to work on the show. And that the show runners doubled down apparently with "imposing remarks" once rumours of these HR complaints began circulating. Akiva Goldman is also not returning to season 2 of the show.

So, big ole changing of the guard there, and if true, seems like they were both utter dickheads.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:22 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Star Trek: Discovery showrunners Berg and Harberts are out, replaced by executive producer Alex Kurtzman

Apparently the changes are not due to creative issues, but operational and leadership issues, in particular it seems the two showrunners were incredibly hostile and abusive towards the writing staff, and that several members of the team threatened to leave the show or file complaints with HR over how uncomfortable it was now to work on the show. And that the show runners doubled down apparently with "imposing remarks" once rumours of these HR complaints began circulating. Akiva Goldman is also not returning to season 2 of the show.

So, big ole changing of the guard there, and if true, seems like they were both utter dickheads.



“abusive to the Discovery writing staff, with Harberts said to have leaned across the writers room table while shouting an expletive at a member of the show's staff. ”


Oh come off it. I get that’s unprofessional, but “leaves across the table and shout an expletive?” Really? They’re making it sound like he physically assaulted someone.
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Star Trek: Discovery showrunners Berg and Harberts are out, replaced by executive producer Alex Kurtzman

Apparently the changes are not due to creative issues, but operational and leadership issues, in particular it seems the two showrunners were incredibly hostile and abusive towards the writing staff, and that several members of the team threatened to leave the show or file complaints with HR over how uncomfortable it was now to work on the show. And that the show runners doubled down apparently with "imposing remarks" once rumours of these HR complaints began circulating. Akiva Goldman is also not returning to season 2 of the show.

So, big ole changing of the guard there, and if true, seems like they were both utter dickheads.


And this is already being celebrated as the thing that kills the show for good. Because apparently that is a good thing for some reason.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:16 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Star Trek: Discovery showrunners Berg and Harberts are out, replaced by executive producer Alex Kurtzman

Apparently the changes are not due to creative issues, but operational and leadership issues, in particular it seems the two showrunners were incredibly hostile and abusive towards the writing staff, and that several members of the team threatened to leave the show or file complaints with HR over how uncomfortable it was now to work on the show. And that the show runners doubled down apparently with "imposing remarks" once rumours of these HR complaints began circulating. Akiva Goldman is also not returning to season 2 of the show.

So, big ole changing of the guard there, and if true, seems like they were both utter dickheads.


And this is already being celebrated as the thing that kills the show for good. Because apparently that is a good thing for some reason.


I seem to recall there being a similar issue between a lot of the TNG writing staff and Roddenberry's lawyer. Apparently, this was the root cause of D.C. Fontana leaving, among others.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Star Trek: Discovery showrunners Berg and Harberts are out, replaced by executive producer Alex Kurtzman

Apparently the changes are not due to creative issues, but operational and leadership issues, in particular it seems the two showrunners were incredibly hostile and abusive towards the writing staff, and that several members of the team threatened to leave the show or file complaints with HR over how uncomfortable it was now to work on the show. And that the show runners doubled down apparently with "imposing remarks" once rumours of these HR complaints began circulating. Akiva Goldman is also not returning to season 2 of the show.

So, big ole changing of the guard there, and if true, seems like they were both utter dickheads.


And this is already being celebrated as the thing that kills the show for good. Because apparently that is a good thing for some reason.


It kind of would be. Give The Orville the room to flourish
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:35 pm

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It kind of would be. Give The Orville the room to flourish

I am for this possibility.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:44 pm

The Orville premiere has been pushed back to New Years. Also season 2 will have 14 episodes rather than 22. Seth basically said he doesn’t want to do cheap filler, and would rather have fewer but quality episodes.


I’m okay with these developments
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:49 pm

True but sometimes the "cheap" episodes are the better ones as they have to have a better story to replace the effects.
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