Scifi TV Discussion Thread

[Tarsonis]

This honestly sounds like they’re too complicated for you, and you’re reaching for excuses. “Sure it’s not the stories of Trek are detailed nuanced and complex, they’re just too slow for my superior and face paced brain”.

That’s like saying Fast and the Furious is “deep”

Excellent way of saying that older shows need to be remastered. I approve lol

Actually, that was a long winded way of saying you’re full of shit.

[New haven america]

Then you should be complaining that Sir Patrick Stewart is a shit actor, because before TNG he'd already been acting for 10-20 years.

Hell, his acting was better in TNG.

Nobody's insulting anyone...

Except you are.

"Oh, hello Sir Stewart, I know you're a beloved actor and all, but I thought you were shit in TNG."

[New haven america]

Several people from the 90's have stated that they relate to older Trek just fine, thus making your argument irrelevant.

Now, get a better argument.

You can't fight progress.

Now you're just saying nonsense.

I said get a better argument, not stop trying.

[Tarsonis]

Today's standards are much higher than yesterdays, that's how it works.

No they're not.

If they were then people wouldn't be praising Sonequa Martin-Green in STD.

Truth be told I thought she did a fantastic job. The problem was with the shit writing not with the chops.

[Equality of Nations]

Today's standards are much higher than yesterdays, that's how it works.

No they're not.

If they were then people wouldn't be praising Sonequa Martin-Green in STD.

Her character became likable towards the end of it's season. STD right now doesn't have a lead character. She has a long way ahead of her if she want's to be one.

[Tarsonis]

No they're not.

If they were then people wouldn't be praising Sonequa Martin-Green in STD.

Her character became likable towards the end of it's season. STD right now doesn't have a lead character. She has a long way ahead of her if she want's to be one.

That’s not a real metric to go buy.

[New haven america]

No they're not.

If they were then people wouldn't be praising Sonequa Martin-Green in STD.

Truth be told I thought she did a fantastic job. The problem was with the shit writing not with the chops.

Eh.

Honestly, she's ok, but she not really... lead actor material, TBH. IDK, give her another 5-10 years and she might be more convincing.

[Equality of Nations]

Excellent way of saying that older shows need to be remastered. I approve lol

Actually, that was a long winded way of saying you’re full of shit.

Huh, i actually meant they needed to remaster older shows. Shit has a way of presenting itself...

[Tarsonis]

Truth be told I thought she did a fantastic job. The problem was with the shit writing not with the chops.

Eh.

Honestly, she's ok, but she not really... lead actor material, TBH. IDK, give her another 5-10 years and she might be more convincing.

They’re trying to appeal to Equination’s demographics, sacrificing substance for youth appeal. For that she was well suited. But it’s also the first season where the Captain wasn’t really the lead character. So with that in mind I think it was all right. I’m interested in who the new captain is gonna be, but if the finale is anything to go buy Suru is gonna be captain for a while. He’s actually a competent actor, (name escapes me) but his character needs much more breadth.

[Tarsonis]

Actually, that was a long winded way of saying you’re full of shit.

Huh, i actually meant they needed to remaster older shows. Shit has a way of presenting itself...

remaster it how? Better graphics? Different color phasers? This is even dumber. You’re litterally saying the show isn’t shiney enough for you.

I swear you’re Michael Bay’s Target dem

[Equality of Nations]

3- Person of Interest is now the go-to show for better understanding the AI.
s4e11 If-Then-Else is an interesting episode. Picard's debate is outdated i'm afraid.

https://youtu.be/FopyRHHlt3M

Picard’s argument in “Measure of Man” is still debated in fucking Ivy League philosophy classes. Nobody gives a shit about Person of Interst. It was barely a hit while it was still on.

Let me sum it up for you. AI are sentient beings. They are as much alive as we are, even a fucking hamster can develop a personality. If you teach something the ability to learn on it's own, it turns from being a program, into AI. We are biological beings. When bio mechanical engineering advances a high enough level either AI will take advantage of those bodies, or we'll move into them from our decayed bodies. Death, will no longer occur as the way we know it now in the future.

[New haven america]

1- Alright, i'll back off on that front. Don't have extensive knowledge about sci-fi categories.

2- Don't know about the star gate reboot but they've already killed off their show by ending Star Gate: Atlantis prematurely.

Unfortunately SG fell victim to SyFy. That was a right bit of controversy.

3- Person of Interest is now the go-to show for better understanding the AI.


s4e11 If-Then-Else is an interesting episode. Picard's debate is outdated i'm afraid.

https://youtu.be/FopyRHHlt3M

Picard’s argument in “Measure of Man” is still debated in fucking Ivy League philosophy classes. Nobody gives a shit about Person of Interst. It was barely a hit while it was still on.

And Person of Interest isn't anywhere near as popular as its big brother, Fringe.

[Equality of Nations]

Huh, i actually meant they needed to remaster older shows. Shit has a way of presenting itself...

remaster it how? Better graphics? Different color phasers? This is even dumber. You’re litterally saying the show isn’t shiney enough for you.

I swear you’re Michael Bay’s Target dem

Hmm, i actually hated Transformers 5. Trust me, no Michael Bay fan ever likes watching Enterprise...

[Equality of Nations]

Nobody's insulting anyone...

Except you are.

"Oh, hello Sir Stewart, I know you're a beloved actor and all, but I thought you were shit in TNG."

You still don't get it lol.

[Equality of Nations]

You can't fight progress.

Now you're just saying nonsense.

I said get a better argument, not stop trying.

[Tarsonis]

https://youtu.be/FopyRHHlt3M

Picard’s argument in “Measure of Man” is still debated in fucking Ivy League philosophy classes. Nobody gives a shit about Person of Interst. It was barely a hit while it was still on.

Let me sum it up for you. AI are sentient beings. They are as much alive as we are, even a fucking hamster can develop a personality. If you teach something the ability to learn on it's own, it turns from being a program, into AI. We are biological beings. When bio mechanical engineering advances a high enough level either AI will take advantage of those bodies, or we'll move into them from our decayed bodies. Death, will no longer occur as the way we know it now in the future.

Except, that’s not taken as a given. Whether Artificial Intelegences are truly sentient or just a facimele of sentience is still hotly contested. (This is actually part of my professional field fyi) Like I said, Picard’s argument is still a topic of debate in modern philosophy. It’s not “outdated” at all. Here at Yale, I’ve seen his speech debated in several classes, and participated in said debate. You’re talking out of your ass here.

[Tarsonis]

remaster it how? Better graphics? Different color phasers? This is even dumber. You’re litterally saying the show isn’t shiney enough for you.

I swear you’re Michael Bay’s Target dem

Hmm, i actually hated Transformers 5. Trust me, no Michael Bay fan ever likes watching Enterprise...

The fact you actually watched 5 speaks volumes

[Tarsonis]

Except you are.

"Oh, hello Sir Stewart, I know you're a beloved actor and all, but I thought you were shit in TNG."

You still don't get it lol.

Nobody gets it, cause you’re talking nonsense.

[New haven america]

Except you are.

"Oh, hello Sir Stewart, I know you're a beloved actor and all, but I thought you were shit in TNG."

You still don't get it lol.

You literally said that acting in older ST series is shit and that Patrick Stewart wasn't good in TNG.

Would you like the quotes? They were posted no more then a few pages ago, or do you have short term memory loss or something?

[Equality of Nations]

Unfortunately SG fell victim to SyFy. That was a right bit of controversy.



https://youtu.be/FopyRHHlt3M

Picard’s argument in “Measure of Man” is still debated in fucking Ivy League philosophy classes. Nobody gives a shit about Person of Interst. It was barely a hit while it was still on.

And Person of Interest isn't anywhere near as popular as its big brother, Fringe.

Don't know about fringe. Will check it out and get back to you. Haven't watch a single episode of it.

[Equality of Nations]

Let me sum it up for you. AI are sentient beings. They are as much alive as we are, even a fucking hamster can develop a personality. If you teach something the ability to learn on it's own, it turns from being a program, into AI. We are biological beings. When bio mechanical engineering advances a high enough level either AI will take advantage of those bodies, or we'll move into them from our decayed bodies. Death, will no longer occur as the way we know it now in the future.

Except, that’s not taken as a given. Whether Artificial Intelegences are truly sentient or just a facimele of sentience is still hotly contested. (This is actually part of my professional field fyi) Like I said, Picard’s argument is still a topic of debate in modern philosophy. It’s not “outdated” at all. Here at Yale, I’ve seen his speech debated in several classes, and participated in said debate. You’re talking out of your ass here.

Are we truly sentient or just a facimele of sentience then? How do we exit huh? Simple. Something always and forever will exist and that thing is the space-time continuum. Is space time conscious? Are you going to fry your brain while trying to figure this out?

They are giving you a well known debate to draw your interest into an educative debate. (This is my opinion that came out of my ass btw lol)

[Equality of Nations]

Hmm, i actually hated Transformers 5. Trust me, no Michael Bay fan ever likes watching Enterprise...

The fact you actually watched 5 speaks volumes

To asses something, you first need to experience it. Do you disagree?

[Equality of Nations]

You still don't get it lol.

You literally said that acting in older ST series is shit and that Patrick Stewart wasn't good in TNG.

Would you like the quotes? They were posted no more then a few pages ago, or do you have short term memory loss or something?

It appears that this Turkish man can understand more English than you do. Read more carefully and you'll understand. Keyword is progress...

[New haven america]

The fact you actually watched 5 speaks volumes

To asses something, you first need to experience it. Do you disagree?

Yep.

[New haven america]

You literally said that acting in older ST series is shit and that Patrick Stewart wasn't good in TNG.

Would you like the quotes? They were posted no more then a few pages ago, or do you have short term memory loss or something?

It appears that this Turkish man can understand more English than you do. Read more carefully and you'll understand. Keyword is progress...

But that doesn't change the point, you said acting in the older ST series was shit and that Patrick Stewart wasn't good in TNG.

Yes, you did say he progressed, after TNG. You admit to being unable to watch the older series due to shit acting, TNG is included in the older series, hence you think Patrick Stewarts acting was shit but progressed after TNG. (I suggest looking the indented word up, you seem to not understand it)

I ask again, would you like the quotes to where you admit to this line of thinking?