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Initial Thoughts on Discovery

Love it
56
14%
Like it
91
23%
So-so
114
29%
Dislike it
44
11%
Hate it
89
23%
 
Total votes : 394
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:52 pm

Called it.


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This episode confirmed the theory that Tyler is Voq, the albino Klingon.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:14 pm

sigh,... death of the doctor was stupid. No way he has that conversation without Security present.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:19 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
sigh,... death of the doctor was stupid. No way he has that conversation without Security present.

Apparently they said that is not the last of him, so i dont know if that means.. flashbacks, a recording, a mirror Culber, or some time travel shenanigans with Stamets.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:32 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
sigh,... death of the doctor was stupid. No way he has that conversation without Security present.

Apparently they said that is not the last of him, so i dont know if that means.. flashbacks, a recording, a mirror Culber, or some time travel shenanigans with Stamets.



ugh, aftertrek is becoming impossible to watch. They're so self fellatiating about their awful writing and direction it's ridiculous.

"You'll learn more about Tyler, pay attention to the little things." Bitch we already know, because you telegraphed it from 6 miles away.

"It's not over, we're a pro-LGBT crew and we can't cut him off that way."

:roll: okay.

"He's really the smartest person on the ship, that's why he died."

Clearly not if his first instincts isn't to inform the captain of a potential sleeper agent on the ship, and call security to confine him to the brig/quarters. If he had, he'd still be alive. #badwriting
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:58 am

wow the reveal of the emperor was actually more surprising than Tyler's revelation.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:03 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
wow the reveal of the emperor was actually more surprising than Tyler's revelation.

I figured it would be Philippa Georgiou, as i believe she was listed for more episodes than the initial two. And im glad it was her, loved Burnhams reaction to it, going to be an interesting situation for her. I personally had a cheesy smile on my face when it was revealed to be her.

Overall i really liked that episode. Nice to see an Andorian again too.
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Postby New Roma Republic » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:13 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
wow the reveal of the emperor was actually more surprising than Tyler's revelation.

I figured it would be Philippa Georgiou, as i believe she was listed for more episodes than the initial two. And im glad it was her, loved Burnhams reaction to it, going to be an interesting situation for her. I personally had a cheesy smile on my face when it was revealed to be her.

Overall i really liked that episode. Nice to see an Andorian again too.


I was genuinely suprised by that reveal, but i realized that if i had given it half a braincell of thought,
I would have realized it was her. Mainly b/c the last empress we know of is Hoshi Sato, who is asian.
The only major asian character from Discovery is Georgiou. Since CBS is under the delusion this exists in the prime universe, then that is the logical jump.

But that reveal from episode 12. It was sooooo suprising. Never saw it coming. No one predicted this back in like episode 3 or 4. Such suprise, much wow.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:53 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:
I figured it would be Philippa Georgiou, as i believe she was listed for more episodes than the initial two. And im glad it was her, loved Burnhams reaction to it, going to be an interesting situation for her. I personally had a cheesy smile on my face when it was revealed to be her.

Overall i really liked that episode. Nice to see an Andorian again too.


I was genuinely suprised by that reveal, but i realized that if i had given it half a braincell of thought,
I would have realized it was her. Mainly b/c the last empress we know of is Hoshi Sato, who is asian.
The only major asian character from Discovery is Georgiou. Since CBS is under the delusion this exists in the prime universe, then that is the logical jump.

But that reveal from episode 12. It was sooooo suprising. Never saw it coming. No one predicted this back in like episode 3 or 4. Such suprise, much wow.

pretty sure we've mentioned it here on this thread. I actually thought it wasn't gonna be true but then lo and behold, Lorca is evil.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:12 am

So... does this mean Hoshi is Georgiou's great grandma or aunt or something?
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Postby New Roma Republic » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:47 am

Tarsonis wrote:
New Roma Republic wrote:
I was genuinely suprised by that reveal, but i realized that if i had given it half a braincell of thought,
I would have realized it was her. Mainly b/c the last empress we know of is Hoshi Sato, who is asian.
The only major asian character from Discovery is Georgiou. Since CBS is under the delusion this exists in the prime universe, then that is the logical jump.

But that reveal from episode 12. It was sooooo suprising. Never saw it coming. No one predicted this back in like episode 3 or 4. Such suprise, much wow.

pretty sure we've mentioned it here on this thread. I actually thought it wasn't gonna be true but then lo and behold, Lorca is evil.

You probably have. I don't always check this thread lol. But yeah, I'm annoyed at the poor writing in the series. The 3 major fan theories have all been confirmed by the story, and that's really annoying to me. I want to be kept on my toes, but nope. Plus what's this "sensitivty to light" bs is just plain stupid. Never before was ever mentioned or alluded to. The MU ships were just as well lit as PU ships.


New haven america wrote:So... does this mean Hoshi is Georgiou's great grandma or niece or something?

If CBS gives any fucks about continuity, then yes.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:28 am

So then this show has ties to Enterprise.

I'm out.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:38 am

Ameriganastan wrote:So then this show has ties to Enterprise.

I'm out.

A ship that appeared in enterprise is mentioned in it, thats it really.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:39 am

Genuinely happy that Lorca was revealed to be the mirror version of him, guess that means the prime version is either dead, or got swapped with him and is lost some where in the mirror universe. Hope that does not signal the end of his story though, he is my favourite character and would like to see him stay as a regular in the show in some way.

Also eating Kelpiens, damn.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:01 am

Ameriganastan wrote:So then this show has ties to Enterprise.

I'm out.


Enterprise is canon, so technically they all have goes to Enterprise.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:03 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:So then this show has ties to Enterprise.

I'm out.


Enterprise is canon, so technically they all have goes to Enterprise.

You know what I mean.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:06 am

I really want to post lyrics from the enterprise theme song, but i think ameri would reach through my screen and beat me to death.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:13 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I really want to post lyrics from the enterprise theme song, but i think ameri would reach through my screen and beat me to death.

I actually like that song.

It was just a shitty choice for a Star Trek theme song.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:39 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:So then this show has ties to Enterprise.

I'm out.

Every ST series has ties to Enterprise, it's the prequel to the entire bloody franchise.
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New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:So then this show has ties to Enterprise.

I'm out.

Every ST series has ties to Enterprise, it's the prequel to the entire bloody franchise.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:06 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
New haven america wrote:Every ST series has ties to Enterprise, it's the prequel to the entire bloody franchise.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT.


Scotttie killed Admiral Archer's beagle. Does that mean you don't like the movies?
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Tarsonis wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT.


Scotttie killed Admiral Archer's beagle. Does that mean you don't like the movies?

Also, the Xindi were mentioned in Beyond.
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New haven america wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Scotttie killed Admiral Archer's beagle. Does that mean you don't like the movies?

Also, the Xindi were mentioned in Beyond.

And the MACOs
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:32 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT.


Scotttie killed Admiral Archer's beagle. Does that mean you don't like the movies?

New haven america wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Scotttie killed Admiral Archer's beagle. Does that mean you don't like the movies?

Also, the Xindi were mentioned in Beyond.

Tarsonis wrote:
New haven america wrote:Also, the Xindi were mentioned in Beyond.

And the MACOs

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Postby Imperial isa » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:59 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:
If CBS gives any fucks about continuity, then yes.

Hah do they any more ?
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I always hated the stupid mirror universe, but at least in the old days you didn't usually have to put up with more than one episode per season.
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