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Initial Thoughts on Discovery

Love it
49
14%
Like it
87
24%
So-so
99
28%
Dislike it
41
11%
Hate it
84
23%
 
Total votes : 360

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Postby The Creepoc Infinite » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:06 am

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Meh I always found Lore to be too one dimensional.

I'd have to say Garek, though you can't really count him as a villain, just a man out for himself.

Lore is interesting as a foil for Data, but he'd be a pretty weak villain on his own.

My favourite villain is Dukat. He's not quite as good as Garek, but as you point out, Garek's really more of an anti-hero.

weak villain on his own? sure, but why?
because Data came first and Lore was estabished as an "evil twin", bro.

you can only have Data AND Lore. you can't have lore without Data.


oh yeah... and data didn't die in nemesis.
his memories and identity were copy and pasted into the B4 prototype. and they eventually activated to full capacity
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:53 am

The Creepoc Infinite wrote:
Charellia wrote:Lore is interesting as a foil for Data, but he'd be a pretty weak villain on his own.

My favourite villain is Dukat. He's not quite as good as Garek, but as you point out, Garek's really more of an anti-hero.

weak villain on his own? sure, but why?
because Data came first and Lore was estabished as an "evil twin", bro.

you can only have Data AND Lore. you can't have lore without Data.


oh yeah... and data didn't die in nemesis.
his memories and identity were copy and pasted into the B4 prototype. and they eventually activated to full capacity


Yeah yeah, mirroring Spock I know. But unfortunately, the STO and the Books aren't accepted Cannon. As it Stands Data is officially MIA suspected KIA

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Postby The Creepoc Infinite » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:04 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
The Creepoc Infinite wrote:weak villain on his own? sure, but why?
because Data came first and Lore was estabished as an "evil twin", bro.

you can only have Data AND Lore. you can't have lore without Data.


oh yeah... and data didn't die in nemesis.
his memories and identity were copy and pasted into the B4 prototype. and they eventually activated to full capacity


Yeah yeah, mirroring Spock I know. But unfortunately, the STO and the Books aren't accepted Cannon. As it Stands Data is officially MIA suspected KIA

Star Wars has a better mythos than Star trek anyway.
I like TNG and that's about it, but i think i would like DS9 if i saw
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Postby New haven america » Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:04 am

I wish other ST's could air on TV nowadays, and not just TNG(Which I have rewatched 4 times now).
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:07 am

New haven america wrote:I wish other ST's could air on TV nowadays, and not just TNG(Which I have rewatched 4 times now).

Spike TV used to rerun Voyager...but that's it. Maybe BBC America could start rerunning DS9. Bashir is British.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:09 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
New haven america wrote:I wish other ST's could air on TV nowadays, and not just TNG(Which I have rewatched 4 times now).

Spike TV used to rerun Voyager...but that's it. Maybe BBC American could start rerunning DS9. Bashir is British.

Sy-Fy also ran some of Ent., be stopped doing that about 3-4 years ago.

Ya, I'm pretty sure BBC could rerun DS9, I don't get why they don't though...
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:20 am

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Spike TV used to rerun Voyager...but that's it. Maybe BBC American could start rerunning DS9. Bashir is British.

Sy-Fy also ran some of Ent., be stopped doing that about 3-4 years ago.

Ya, I'm pretty sure BBC could rerun DS9, I don't get why they don't though...

*Shrug*

Until someone does, I can always watch it online.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:30 pm

Netflix.

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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:07 am

I find Star Trek boring. My mother loves it.
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Postby Charellia » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:47 am

United Russian Soviet States wrote:I find Star Trek boring. My mother loves it.

It is a bit of an acquired taste.

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:31 am

Where the fuck does the idea that Star Wars ships don't have shields come from?
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Postby New Roma Republic » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:47 am

The Romulan Republic wrote:Where the fuck does the idea that Star Wars ships don't have shields come from?

In the movies, they get destroyed very easily. It's more that they have weak shields than no shields
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Postby New haven america » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:42 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:Where the fuck does the idea that Star Wars ships don't have shields come from?

Movies, it's very easy to destroy ships in them. Plus, they probably wouldn't have any transport barriers considering they don't have transporters in SW.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:33 pm

Star Wars does, however, have jamming, which might interfere with the transporters' sensors.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:48 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:Where the fuck does the idea that Star Wars ships don't have shields come from?

In the movies, they get destroyed very easily. It's more that they have weak shields than no shields

It's not that the shields are weak, it's that the guns are really fucking powerful. Fairly small ships can flatten cities.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:54 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
New Roma Republic wrote:In the movies, they get destroyed very easily. It's more that they have weak shields than no shields

It's not that the shields are weak, it's that the guns are really fucking powerful. Fairly small ships can flatten cities.


The defiant irradiated an entire planet.... just saying.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:56 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:It's not that the shields are weak, it's that the guns are really fucking powerful. Fairly small ships can flatten cities.


The defiant irradiated an entire planet.... just saying.

I've forgotten the episode. What was the name?
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:11 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
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The defiant irradiated an entire planet.... just saying.

I've forgotten the episode. What was the name?


DS9 5x13 "For the Uniform"

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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:14 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:It's not that the shields are weak, it's that the guns are really fucking powerful. Fairly small ships can flatten cities.


The defiant irradiated an entire planet.... just saying.

After Eddington poisoned a Cardassian planet, in his Les Mes fueled delusions of grandeur.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:15 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
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The defiant irradiated an entire planet.... just saying.

After Eddington poisoned a Cardassian planet, in his Les Mes fueled delusions of grandeur.



Well yeah, point was the ST ships are way more powerful than SW ships

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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:18 pm

I wouldn't call them more powerful. ST just has the advantage of techno-babble.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:20 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:I wouldn't call them more powerful. ST just has the advantage of techno-babble.


From what I understand, lasers wouldn't even scratch the hulls of ST ships.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:42 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I wouldn't call them more powerful. ST just has the advantage of techno-babble.


From what I understand, lasers wouldn't even scratch the hulls of ST ships.

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Dude, one Star Wars capital ship can glass a planet in a day. I love both franchises, but SW tech is ludicrously OP.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:23 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
From what I understand, lasers wouldn't even scratch the hulls of ST ships.

lulwat

Dude, one Star Wars capital ship can glass a planet in a day. I love both franchises, but SW tech is ludicrously OP.

And a ship in ST about the size of the NX-01 irradiated a planet the size of Earth...
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