Scifi TV Discussion Thread

[United Russian Soviet States]

My mother is watching Star Trek Into Darkness right now.

[The Romulan Republic]

According to IMDB, that film is Leonard Nimoy's last role.

[Dremovia]

Yeeeaaah thats right Bones was the best hands down. I allways liked how he put everyone in their place with that serious eyebrow look

[Ameriganastan]

Yeeeaaah thats right Bones was the best hands down. I allways liked how he put everyone in their place with that serious eyebrow look

And if the eyebrow don't work, he's got a wicked pimp smack.

[United Republic of Pinewald]

This is a huge posting, but I consider myself a huge fan.

Phlox was as little too timid for the franchise.

Leonard "Bones" McCoy was awesome, but do we ALLWAYS have to lionize the original cast. (Yeah, it is 'horrible' that Leonard Nimoy passed on, but should famous people live forever, +80 years of life is pretty good for anybody.)

Beverly Crusher was MILFy but terrific, she can do a physical on me anytime, even at 4a.m. . lol.

Katherine Pulaski was great, but way underdeveloped and not nearly enough in the franchise, (I think she passed on in real life anyway.)

Julian Bashir- who cared about Deep Space 9, other than the last two seasons?

The Doctor (Who the f do you mean?)

Anyone actually able to begin a new show is WAAYY too parinoid over making a new one. Costs? so what? Abrams has[i][/i] the money. How badly greedy do people have to get? Star Trek is the most fan-driven show ever. How often does a show, in the 1960s[i][/i] get cancelled- then +12 movies are based off the WHOLE thing and SIX shows come from the same basic ideas?

All those f-ing murder investigation shows really badly get me angry. There is more to life, and SOCIETY than watching Law & Order murder BS and Judge Judy.
In Star Trek, I want to see episodes of journeys, battles and socializing characters at something like a futuristic mall! Star Trek has always been more FUN than Law & Order type shows!

Has not Star Trek been an example to live by? (other than being paid) Could the proliferation of so many murder investigation shows be a sad commentary on the US as a whole?

[New haven america]

Lemme ask this:
Wtf is Troi doing on the bridge of the enterprise???

She is useless there.
And even if she was useful, how is she a senior crew member???

Cause, allegedly, her Betazoid powers were supposed to be useful. They never were, but they kept saying they were.

Troi was only half Batezoid, her powers were weak compared to other Betazoids. (Which made her useless)

[Charellia]

Cause, allegedly, her Betazoid powers were supposed to be useful. They never were, but they kept saying they were.

Troi was only half Batezoid, her powers were weak compared to other Betazoids. (Which made her useless)

Well even as a half Betazoid, Troi's powers created a whole host of problems for the writers. That is the real reason why she was useless. If she had actually been able to use her powers productively it would have limited the stories they could do.

On the subject of Betazoids, I wonder how Starfleet manages to keep so much classified information. It seems like most of their secrets would be exposed as soon as an admiral takes a vacation on Betazed.

[Tekania]

According to IMDB, that film is Leonard Nimoy's last role.

As a character actor yes.... he did do narration roles after that though.

[Madiganistan]

Troi was only half Batezoid, her powers were weak compared to other Betazoids. (Which made her useless)

Well even as a half Betazoid, Troi's powers created a whole host of problems for the writers. That is the real reason why she was useless. If she had actually been able to use her powers productively it would have limited the stories they could do.

The same could kind of be said of Guinan or that omnipotent God-thing they encountered in "The Survivor(s?)."
But above all else I kind of feel like Troi's uselessness is principally the result of Marina Sirtis's uselessness as an actress.

No one can ever come close to Bones, but I've always kind of liked Dr. Crusher, particularly when she returns to the cast and her character is fleshed out beyond just being dickweed's Wesley's mom and Picard's former love interest-- I especially liked seeing the changes in disposition between her as a doctor and as a commander during those couple of times when she was placed in charge of a skeleton crew.

Bashir's great, but seems comparatively one-dimensional. Though that might just be a result of my general ignorance of DS9.

According to IMDB, that film is Leonard Nimoy's last role.

Which is actually like, super disappointing. Nimoy had said Star Trek '09 was gonna be his last involvement with the series, which was great because it kind of gave the reboot a seal of approval from the first generation; there was even this nice symbolic handoff from Nimoy to Quinto in the conclusion of that film. But then he magically shows up for what I'm sure was a very generously compensated cameo for Into Darkness that looks like it was filmed in his living room or whatever.

Kinda feels like he left the series less on a "the needs of the many" and more on a "bravest little hobbit of them all."

[Divinap]

out of all the TV series the next generation is the beast the the original series then enterprise then voyager and the deep space nine in order of the best

[Ameriganastan]

Bashir's great, but seems comparatively one-dimensional. Though that might just be a result of my general ignorance of DS9.

You're not totally wrong. Bashir does kind of start as a one-dimensional d-bag. But he fleshes out as the show goes on. His little back and forth with Garak really helped.

[The Creepoc Infinite]

Well even as a half Betazoid, Troi's powers created a whole host of problems for the writers. That is the real reason why she was useless. If she had actually been able to use her powers productively it would have limited the stories they could do.

The same could kind of be said of Guinan or that omnipotent God-thing they encountered in "The Survivor(s?)."
But above all else I kind of feel like Troi's uselessness is principally the result of Marina Sirtis's uselessness as an actress.

No one can ever come close to Bones, but I've always kind of liked Dr. Crusher, particularly when she returns to the cast and her character is fleshed out beyond just being dickweed's Wesley's mom and Picard's former love interest-- I especially liked seeing the changes in disposition between her as a doctor and as a commander during those couple of times when she was placed in charge of a skeleton crew.

Bashir's great, but seems comparatively one-dimensional. Though that might just be a result of my general ignorance of DS9.

According to IMDB, that film is Leonard Nimoy's last role.

Which is actually like, super disappointing. Nimoy had said Star Trek '09 was gonna be his last involvement with the series, which was great because it kind of gave the reboot a seal of approval from the first generation; there was even this nice symbolic handoff from Nimoy to Quinto in the conclusion of that film. But then he magically shows up for what I'm sure was a very generously compensated cameo for Into Darkness that looks like it was filmed in his living room or whatever.

Kinda feels like he left the series less on a "the needs of the many" and more on a "bravest little hobbit of them all."

I never really liked the original series (except for a couple episodes) mainly because shitner's acting was meh, and it was campy as hell.
I don't like McCoy much either, but I absolutely love Dr. crusher. She's really awesome. And she's pretty hot in the show, she still kinda is too. I wish they spent more time developing her, not that they didn't spend a lot of time already.

If I were to list my top ten Star Trek characters:
1: Data and Lore
2: Q
3: Picard
4: Dr. Crushery
5: Warf
6: LaForge
7: Barkley (I wish they spent more time with him)
8: Spock
9: Spot (because I love cats)
10: Wesley "hell spawn" crusher

[Madiganistan]

I never really liked the original series (except for a couple episodes) mainly because shitner's acting was meh, and it was campy as hell.
I don't like McCoy much either, but I absolutely love Dr. crusher. She's really awesome. And she's pretty hot in the show, she still kinda is too. I wish they spent more time developing her, not that they didn't spend a lot of time already.

If I were to list my top ten Star Trek characters:
1: Data and Lore
2: Q
3: Picard
4: Dr. Crusher
5: Warf
6: LaForge
7: Barkley (I wish they spent more time with him)
8: Spock
9: Spot (because I love cats)
10: Wesley "hell spawn" crusher

The fact that it's campy is what I loved about it so much-- I don't get why Trekkies are so hellbent on critically comparing TOS to TNG-- they're totally different shows with different tones.

I'm with you on nearly all of those, especially Barclay-- Schultz was a late addition to the cast, and a damn fine one at that. Data, Picard, Worf, and Crusher are without a doubt my favorite regular crew members. LeVar Burton's acting significantly improved over the course of the series, but early on he was delivering dramatic lines so lazily that I was never really able to forgive him for it (though I could moreso than Johnathan Frakes, whom despite being a genuinely good guy in real life, is just a terrible actor).

Q's a lot of fun, but my favorite recurring secondary character was Moriarty-- for a character who only showed up in two or three episodes throughout the entire series, he sure was memorable.

I genuinely have to ask what you liked about Wesley.

[The Creepoc Infinite]

I never really liked the original series (except for a couple episodes) mainly because shitner's acting was meh, and it was campy as hell.
I don't like McCoy much either, but I absolutely love Dr. crusher. She's really awesome. And she's pretty hot in the show, she still kinda is too. I wish they spent more time developing her, not that they didn't spend a lot of time already.

If I were to list my top ten Star Trek characters:
1: Data and Lore
2: Q
3: Picard
4: Dr. Crusher
5: Warf
6: LaForge
7: Barkley (I wish they spent more time with him)
8: Spock
9: Spot (because I love cats)
10: Wesley "hell spawn" crusher

The fact that it's campy is what I loved about it so much-- I don't get why Trekkies are so hellbent on critically comparing TOS to TNG-- they're totally different shows with different tones.

I'm with you on nearly all of those, especially Barclay-- Schultz was a late addition to the cast, and a damn fine one at that. Data, Picard, Worf, and Crusher are without a doubt my favorite regular crew members. LeVar Burton's acting significantly improved over the course of the series, but early on he was delivering dramatic lines so lazily that I was never really able to forgive him for it (though I could moreso than Johnathan Frakes, whom despite being a genuinely good guy in real life, is just a terrible actor).

Q's a lot of fun, but my favorite recurring secondary character was Moriarty-- for a character who only showed up in two or three episodes throughout the entire series, he sure was memorable.

I genuinely have to ask what you liked about Wesley.

Wesley is a "so bad it's good" thing.
He's just fun how disliked he is. He much he saved the ship in the first three seasons, how much they banked on making him more important then he really is.

And I simply like Wil Wheaton, he seems like a good guy.
Frakes a bad actor?? Never even occurred to me. The only one I felt did a shoddy acting job was Levar Burton, but only in the first two seasons.

[Madiganistan]

Wesley is a "so bad it's good" thing.
He's just fun how disliked he is. He much he saved the ship in the first three seasons, how much they banked on making him more important then he really is.

And I simply like Wil Wheaton, he seems like a good guy.

Bolded is what bothers me so much about him-- he's so obviously a "Rick Berman as he imagined himself when he was twelve" write-in, and it drives me nuts.
Wil Wheaton's great. Part of what makes him so great is how he hated his character as much as everyone else did.

Frakes a bad actor?? Never even occurred to me.

He's good in a lot of situations-- especially when it comes to being Picard's right hand. There's a lot of times when Picard takes it easy on a person or in a circumstance when Riker just wants to go ham, but Frakes is great at conveying the "frustrated, restrained tough guy" who makes it clear to a defiant rival that he'd totally fuck him up if it weren't for the bald guy. He also makes romance scenes with Marina Sirtis work, for which he ought to win a Nobel Peace Prize or whatever.

But there's one episode-- I can't remember the title, but it's the one where Riker's in one of Crusher's plays and starts questioning his sanity. The episode has such a cool premise and such a fun climax, but Riker was not the right guy to focus that episode on, and his acting makes it pretty clear. I've never been able to watch him in quite the same way after seeing his "Nooooo!" delivery in that one for the first time.

[The Creepoc Infinite]

Hey guys! I find a super rare deleted scene from a holodeck episode of TNG

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9RGZxjORF0

[Ameriganastan]

Hey guys! I find a super rare deleted scene from a holodeck episode of TNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9RGZxjORF0

*Checks watch*

Yeah. You're about 8 years late on that gag.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

And the moral justification for Picard disobeying orders in Insurrection are backward and wrong.

Yeah the arguments been made to death

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Wesley is a "so bad it's good" thing.
He's just fun how disliked he is. He much he saved the ship in the first three seasons, how much they banked on making him more important then he really is.

And I simply like Wil Wheaton, he seems like a good guy.

Bolded is what bothers me so much about him-- he's so obviously a "Rick Berman as he imagined himself when he was twelve" write-in, and it drives me nuts.
Wil Wheaton's great. Part of what makes him so great is how he hated his character as much as everyone else did.

Frakes a bad actor?? Never even occurred to me.

He's good in a lot of situations-- especially when it comes to being Picard's right hand. There's a lot of times when Picard takes it easy on a person or in a circumstance when Riker just wants to go ham, but Frakes is great at conveying the "frustrated, restrained tough guy" who makes it clear to a defiant rival that he'd totally fuck him up if it weren't for the bald guy. He also makes romance scenes with Marina Sirtis work, for which he ought to win a Nobel Peace Prize or whatever.

But there's one episode-- I can't remember the title, but it's the one where Riker's in one of Crusher's plays and starts questioning his sanity. The episode has such a cool premise and such a fun climax, but Riker was not the right guy to focus that episode on, and his acting makes it pretty clear. I've never been able to watch him in quite the same way after seeing his "Nooooo!" delivery in that one for the first time.

To be fair the only person who can effectively deliver the screaming no bit is Austrian

[The Creepoc Infinite]

Who thinks Kirk is better than this guy??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJS18wQZd5Q

[Ameriganastan]

Who thinks Kirk is better than this guy??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJS18wQZd5Q

How about you try and start an actual conversation, instead of linking random YouTube videos.

[The Creepoc Infinite]

Who thinks Kirk is better than this guy??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJS18wQZd5Q

How about you try and start an actual conversation, instead of linking random YouTube videos.

the discussion is how much more awesome Picard is than Kirk, silly.

[New haven america]

How about you try and start an actual conversation, instead of linking random YouTube videos.

the discussion is how much more awesome Picard is than Kirk, silly.

That's not a really good way to start a discussion.

[The Creepoc Infinite]

the discussion is how much more awesome Picard is than Kirk, silly.

That's not a really good way to start a discussion.

okay, i guess i can agree on that.
but he is still better

[New Roma Republic]

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