Scifi TV Discussion Thread

[Tarsonis]

Be sure to catch Jeopardy this week, and support LeVar! If you don't the warp core will breach.

[Tarsonis]

Woooooo Jeffery Combs is gonna be on Lower Decks season 2!!!

[Ameriganastan]

Woooooo Jeffery Combs is gonna be on Lower Decks season 2!!!

Talk about a waste of talent...

[Tarsonis]

Woooooo Jeffery Combs is gonna be on Lower Decks season 2!!!

Talk about a waste of talent...

yes we know you hate everything you don't need to comment every time

[Ameriganastan]

Talk about a waste of talent...

yes we know you hate everything you don't need to comment every time

I don't hate everything. Just everything Kurtzman does with Trek. Especially Lower Decks.

[Tarsonis]

yes we know you hate everything you don't need to comment every time

I don't hate everything. Just everything Kurtzman does with Trek. Especially Lower Decks.

ironic as, of all of Kurtzman's titles, LD is the closest thing to old school trek. even if it's all jokes.

[Stellar Colonies]

I don't hate everything. Just everything Kurtzman does with Trek. Especially Lower Decks.

ironic as, of all of Kurtzman's titles, LD is the closest thing to old school trek. even if it's all jokes.

One plus of it compared to other NuTrek is how it maintains visual continuity better than the others from what I've seen.

[Ameriganastan]

I don't hate everything. Just everything Kurtzman does with Trek. Especially Lower Decks.

ironic as, of all of Kurtzman's titles, LD is the closest thing to old school trek. even if it's all jokes.

Right, cause I remember old school Trek being a weak ass Rick And Morty clone full of 3rd grade jokes. How could I forget...

[Tarsonis]

ironic as, of all of Kurtzman's titles, LD is the closest thing to old school trek. even if it's all jokes.

Right, cause I remember old school Trek being a weak ass Rick And Morty clone full of 3rd grade jokes. How could I forget...

Maybe not, but it was an episodic series with contained character driven plots, and not a glorified depository of cgi and lens flares.


it's actually sad that LD has more fleshed out, memorable characters than Picard and Disco combined

[Ameriganastan]

it's actually sad that LD has more fleshed out, memorable characters than Picard and Disco combined

Take it away, Bender.

[Tarsonis]

it's actually sad that LD has more fleshed out, memorable characters than Picard and Disco combined

Take it away, Bender.

you think Picard and Disco have memorable characters?

[Ameriganastan]

Take it away, Bender.

you think Picard and Disco have memorable characters?

You think Lower Dreck does?

[Tarsonis]

you think Picard and Disco have memorable characters?

You think Lower Dreck does?

I at least remember their names.

[Ameriganastan]

You think Lower Dreck does?

I at least remember their names.

Wow, what a strong case for the show.

"Lower Decks: You'll remember their names."

[Tarsonis]

I at least remember their names.

Wow, what a strong case for the show.

"Lower Decks: You'll remember their names."

My tastes don't revolve around Ameri, I don't have to justify what I like to you.

[Maricarland]

you think Picard and Disco have memorable characters?

You think Lower Dreck does?

Yes, I find D'vana Tendi, Beckett Mariner, and Shax to be quite memorable. Also it is a little unfair to criticize the low number of characters and their opportunity to develop those characters in a show that so far has only 10, 20-25 minute episodes.

[Ameriganastan]

You think Lower Dreck does?

Yes, I find D'vana Tendi, Beckett Mariner, and Shax to be quite memorable. Also it is a little unfair to criticize the low number of characters and their opportunity to develop those characters in a show that so far has only 10, 20-25 minute episodes.

There is nothing unfair about criticizing this show.

[Maricarland]

Lower Decks is a fun, relaxing show, set in the Star Trek universe, and steeped in Star Trek lore. It still has its fair amount of philosophy and social commentary, but it uses a different forum to deliver that philosophy and social commentary, it uses satire and other literary devices that take advantage of humor and/or lightheartedness, instead of dramatization. The amount of care Lower Decks takes in acknowledging, deconstructing, and rebuilding Star Treks tropes and lore (a process that is always done respectfully in Lower Decks and not in a way that demeans Star Trek), shows the amount of love for Star Trek that the writers have.

I consider Lower Decks to be my current favorite Star Trek series (and I appreciate it taking advantage of the medium of animation, one of my favorite mediums for story telling). I would not call it a good series for beginners to the Star Trek franchise, as I believe its core audience in mind is existing fans of Star Trek, who want to see the Star Trek world and lore expanded in subtle ways (that is why it is set after the events of DS9, Voyager, and The Next Generation), and don't mind "nuTrek's" attempts at doing so (I think the main issue with nuTrek is that it often, but not always, has lost it roots at providing philosophy and social commentary in its story in favor of excessive dramatization and special effects, something that Lower Decks avoids through going in the other direction altogether).

[Maricarland]

Yes, I find D'vana Tendi, Beckett Mariner, and Shax to be quite memorable. Also it is a little unfair to criticize the low number of characters and their opportunity to develop those characters in a show that so far has only 10, 20-25 minute episodes.

There is nothing unfair about criticizing this show.

You are right there is nothing unfair about criticizing a show, but it is unfair to say a show has too few memorable characters, when the show has not had enough time to establish its characters. I am providing a counter-criticism to your criticism (debate).

[Ameriganastan]

Lower Decks is a fun, relaxing show, set in the Star Trek universe, and steeped in Star Trek lore. It still has its fair amount of philosophy and social commentary, but it uses a different forum to deliver that philosophy and social commentary, it uses satire and other literary devices that take advantage of humor and/or lightheartedness, instead of dramatization. The amount of care Lower Decks takes in acknowledging, deconstructing, and rebuilding Star Treks tropes and lore (a process that is always done respectfully in Lower Decks and not in a way that demeans Star Trek), shows the amount of love for Star Trek that the writers have.

I consider Lower Decks to be my current favorite Star Trek series (and I appreciate it taking advantage of the medium of animation, one of my favorite mediums for story telling). I would not call it a good series for beginners to the Star Trek franchise, as I believe its core audience in mind is existing fans of Star Trek, who want to see the Star Trek world and lore expanded in subtle ways (that is why it is set after the events of DS9, Voyager, and The Next Generation), and don't mind "nuTrek's" attempts at doing so (I think the main issue with nuTrek is that it often, but not always, has lost it roots at providing philosophy and social commentary in its story in favor of excessive dramatization and special effects, something that Lower Decks avoids through going in the other direction altogether).

Bender, you're needed again.

[Maricarland]

Lower Decks is a fun, relaxing show, set in the Star Trek universe, and steeped in Star Trek lore. It still has its fair amount of philosophy and social commentary, but it uses a different forum to deliver that philosophy and social commentary, it uses satire and other literary devices that take advantage of humor and/or lightheartedness, instead of dramatization. The amount of care Lower Decks takes in acknowledging, deconstructing, and rebuilding Star Treks tropes and lore (a process that is always done respectfully in Lower Decks and not in a way that demeans Star Trek), shows the amount of love for Star Trek that the writers have.

I consider Lower Decks to be my current favorite Star Trek series (and I appreciate it taking advantage of the medium of animation, one of my favorite mediums for story telling). I would not call it a good series for beginners to the Star Trek franchise, as I believe its core audience in mind is existing fans of Star Trek, who want to see the Star Trek world and lore expanded in subtle ways (that is why it is set after the events of DS9, Voyager, and The Next Generation), and don't mind "nuTrek's" attempts at doing so (I think the main issue with nuTrek is that it often, but not always, has lost it roots at providing philosophy and social commentary in its story in favor of excessive dramatization and special effects, something that Lower Decks avoids through going in the other direction altogether).

Bender, you're needed again.

So you have no criticism, argument, case, or comment on my "review" of Lower Decks, other than you find my opinion humorous and worthy of ridicule.

[Vassenor]

Yes, I find D'vana Tendi, Beckett Mariner, and Shax to be quite memorable. Also it is a little unfair to criticize the low number of characters and their opportunity to develop those characters in a show that so far has only 10, 20-25 minute episodes.

There is nothing unfair about criticizing this show.

How many memorable character moments did TNG Season 1 have?

[Ameriganastan]

Bender, you're needed again.

So you have no criticism, argument, case, or comment on my "review" of Lower Decks, other than you find my opinion humorous and worthy of ridicule.

Bro, read what you typed. Social commentary and philosophy? It's LOWER DECKS. It's just some wannabe Rick And Morty knockoff using the Star Trek license.

[New haven america]

There is nothing unfair about criticizing this show.

How many memorable character moments did TNG Season 1 have?

~10-20 or so, 1 per episode on average.

[Tarsonis]

How many memorable character moments did TNG Season 1 have?

~10-20 or so, 1 per episode on average.

Yeah, but most were the bad kind of memorable.