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Initial Thoughts on Discovery

Love it
56
14%
Like it
92
23%
So-so
114
29%
Dislike it
44
11%
Hate it
89
23%
 
Total votes : 395

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Postby New haven america » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:07 pm

Tarsonis wrote:I find the Rentrek vid to be worthy of Gulag, Anthony Rapp must die. (not really just being hyperbolic of course)

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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:24 pm

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Makes you wonder how starfleet views the enterprises reports. Like other ships *scanned 6 stars, encounters 2 per warp civilizations, opened diplomatic talks with the rigellians*

Enterprise *destroyed giant crystal alien with vibrations. Met supreme being. Our entire crew devolved except the android*

What the fuck Picard?


Voyager: *breaks warp 10. Has two crewmembers merge into one, then kills him to get them back. Goes back in time, fixes time, somehow gets away with stealing advanced 29th century tech. Meets supreme beings, lets supreme being kill himself, becomes nanny to the kid of the supreme being Picard met. Frees a Borg, makes the rest of the collective Janeway's bitch. etc.*

Its no wonder she got promoted to Admiral virtually the instant they got back to Earth.


Your forgetting about Harry Kim who deserved a promotion so badly. I mean Nog got promoted quicker he joined the academy at the end of series 3 not long after Voyager went to the delta quadrant, came back to DS9 near the end of series 5 as a cadet, became an ensign at some point in series 6 and became a lieutenant in the last episode, all before Voyager came back. But I suppose in a weird way Voyager was extremely lucky avoiding the Dominion war.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:30 pm

Earthbound immortal squad wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Voyager: *breaks warp 10. Has two crewmembers merge into one, then kills him to get them back. Goes back in time, fixes time, somehow gets away with stealing advanced 29th century tech. Meets supreme beings, lets supreme being kill himself, becomes nanny to the kid of the supreme being Picard met. Frees a Borg, makes the rest of the collective Janeway's bitch. etc.*

Its no wonder she got promoted to Admiral virtually the instant they got back to Earth.


Your forgetting about Harry Kim who deserved a promotion so badly. I mean Nog got promoted quicker he joined the academy at the end of series 3 not long after Voyager went to the delta quadrant, came back to DS9 near the end of series 5 as a cadet, became an ensign at some point in series 6 and became a lieutenant in the last episode, all before Voyager came back. But I suppose in a weird way Voyager was extremely lucky avoiding the Dominion war.

Well, there was a war going on. Chances are if no Dominion War, Nog wouldn't have been so fast-tracked.
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:31 pm

Lucky him.

Anyway I'm sure this has been discussed before but is anyone here planning a star trek cards collection?
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:48 pm

Kim’s rank freezing is more to do with his predicament than anything else. He’s low man on the totem pole, non of the other Bridge officers died or were demoted, he’s stuck in Ensign due to circumstance, not because she doesn’t perform.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:00 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Kim’s rank freezing is more to do with his predicament than anything else. He’s low man on the totem pole, non of the other Bridge officers died or were demoted, he’s stuck in Ensign due to circumstance, not because she doesn’t perform.

Also that.
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Postby Kamohoalii » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:07 pm

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Bummer.

But the Tarnentino film is still a go

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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:02 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Kim’s rank freezing is more to do with his predicament than anything else. He’s low man on the totem pole, non of the other Bridge officers died or were demoted, he’s stuck in Ensign due to circumstance, not because she doesn’t perform.


But Paris got demoted and then re-promoted and Kim never got anything in that time.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:59 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Kim’s rank freezing is more to do with his predicament than anything else. He’s low man on the totem pole, non of the other Bridge officers died or were demoted, he’s stuck in Ensign due to circumstance, not because she doesn’t perform.

Tom Paris disagrees.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:58 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Oh fun, a strike episode. And as usual, the strikers are presented as pious and trod upon, while the anti-union guy is a borderline caricature.

Sucked on DS9, sucked here.

I fail to see how extremely underpaid workers who Quark has repeatedly attempted to demand sexual favors from aren't being trod upon.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:07 pm

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Ameriganastan wrote:Oh fun, a strike episode. And as usual, the strikers are presented as pious and trod upon, while the anti-union guy is a borderline caricature.

Sucked on DS9, sucked here.

I fail to see how extremely underpaid workers who Quark has repeatedly attempted to demand sexual favors from aren't being trod upon.

He didn't demand until that episode. Which was the writers just veering him out of character to make the pro-union point look better. Sure he hit on them like the perv he is, but he never said "Fuck me or your fired" until that episode.

And as I said last time I mentioned this episode, he couldn't afford to pay them the same as usual, cause business was way down during whatever the Bajorans were doing. If he was a real dick, he could have just fired them all. But adjusting salaries for a drop in business was treated like him being evil.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:13 pm

There's nothing out of character about it. Quark is a greedy and abusive employer, and a sexist to the n-th degree. It's simply putting 2 and 2 together to realize that of course he would try to obligate his employees to ridiculous demands.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:18 pm

Wallenburg wrote:There's nothing out of character about it. Quark is a greedy and abusive employer, and a sexist to the n-th degree. It's simply putting 2 and 2 together to realize that of course he would try to obligate his employees to ridiculous demands.

Of course he's greedy and abusive. He's a Ferengi. That's their whole shtick. As I'm apparently failing to convey here, that episode turns him from comically greedy to just asshole greedy to make the pro-union stance look good.
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Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Nation of Quebec » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:22 pm

No Orville this week, but Discovery was good. Season two is significantly better than season one. This is what it should have been all along.

It also looks like we get an explanation as to why holographic communications isn't used in the future as well as for the discontinuation of the spore drive.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:52 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:There's nothing out of character about it. Quark is a greedy and abusive employer, and a sexist to the n-th degree. It's simply putting 2 and 2 together to realize that of course he would try to obligate his employees to ridiculous demands.

Of course he's greedy and abusive. He's a Ferengi. That's their whole shtick. As I'm apparently failing to convey here, that episode turns him from comically greedy to just asshole greedy to make the pro-union stance look good.

I really don't see the difference between "comically greedy" and "asshole greedy" in this episode. If you are criticizing the episode because you hate unions, just say that you hate unions, and stop trying to couch your criticism in misdirections.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:59 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Of course he's greedy and abusive. He's a Ferengi. That's their whole shtick. As I'm apparently failing to convey here, that episode turns him from comically greedy to just asshole greedy to make the pro-union stance look good.

I really don't see the difference between "comically greedy" and "asshole greedy" in this episode. If you are criticizing the episode because you hate unions, just say that you hate unions, and stop trying to couch your criticism in misdirection.

Oh, I do hate unions. But that doesn't change my point about them ratcheting up his douche level for propaganda purposes.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:06 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:I really don't see the difference between "comically greedy" and "asshole greedy" in this episode. If you are criticizing the episode because you hate unions, just say that you hate unions, and stop trying to couch your criticism in misdirection.

Oh, I do hate unions. But that doesn't change my point about them ratcheting up his douche level for propaganda purposes.

Buddy, if you don't like when Star Trek preaches some liberal principle or another, you're wasting a whole lot of your time. Almost all of Star Trek is preachy, it's how the show has always been.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:35 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Oh, I do hate unions. But that doesn't change my point about them ratcheting up his douche level for propaganda purposes.

Buddy, if you don't like when Star Trek preaches some liberal principle or another, you're wasting a whole lot of your time. Almost all of Star Trek is preachy, it's how the show has always been.

And when the preaching gets to be too much, I complain. You really wanna get me going, just mention Far Beyond The Stars.
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Postby Imperial isa » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:35 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:No Orville this week,

Great as it get fast track from the US that means i don't get it.

So what on that taking it place in the US ?
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Postby New haven america » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:47 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:I really don't see the difference between "comically greedy" and "asshole greedy" in this episode. If you are criticizing the episode because you hate unions, just say that you hate unions, and stop trying to couch your criticism in misdirection.

Oh, I do hate unions. But that doesn't change my point about them ratcheting up his douche level for propaganda purposes.

Coming from someone who's barely worked a week in their life...
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:55 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Oh, I do hate unions. But that doesn't change my point about them ratcheting up his douche level for propaganda purposes.

Coming from someone who's barely worked a week in their life...

Yes, I've only had one job and it didn't last long. But I made employee of the month in the short time I was there. So don't try to infer I'm lazy.
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Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:07 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Buddy, if you don't like when Star Trek preaches some liberal principle or another, you're wasting a whole lot of your time. Almost all of Star Trek is preachy, it's how the show has always been.

And when the preaching gets to be too much, I complain. You really wanna get me going, just mention Far Beyond The Stars.

God, that says more about you than about that episode. That's among the best of DS9.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:23 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:And when the preaching gets to be too much, I complain. You really wanna get me going, just mention Far Beyond The Stars.

God, that says more about you than about that episode. That's among the best of DS9.

No, the best is stuff like In The Pale Moonlight, Siege of AR-558, Waltz, etc. Not that glorified Hallmark channel special.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:33 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
New haven america wrote:Coming from someone who's barely worked a week in their life...

Yes, I've only had one job and it didn't last long. But I made employee of the month in the short time I was there. So don't try to infer I'm lazy.

No, I was pointing to your lack of experience with them yet claiming they suck is ironic or a silly belief.

Especially since union states can make so many jobs that get paid shit in right-to-work states (Like trade jobs) 6 figure jobs.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:48 am

New haven america wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Yes, I've only had one job and it didn't last long. But I made employee of the month in the short time I was there. So don't try to infer I'm lazy.

No, I was pointing to your lack of experience with them yet claiming they suck is ironic or a silly belief.

Especially since union states can make so many jobs that get paid shit in right-to-work states (Like trade jobs) 6 figure jobs.

A union going on strike cost me a job I was pretty much set to get. So they can all go rot.
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