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Initial Thoughts on Discovery

Love it
57
14%
Like it
92
23%
So-so
114
29%
Dislike it
45
11%
Hate it
90
23%
 
Total votes : 398

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:52 am

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At the beginning of the series I despised G’Kar....but gotta say after season 2, he’s the character I love the most. (Other than Ivanova,but that’s just more... rawr)



Also I get the Shadows are manipulating Earthdome, how can the Humans be as retarded as to do both mistakes of WWII, fascism and appeasement?


Have you seen the scene where G'Kar and Londo are stuck in an elevator together yet ?
Uncertain which season that was...
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:56 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
At the beginning of the series I despised G’Kar....but gotta say after season 2, he’s the character I love the most. (Other than Ivanova,but that’s just more... rawr)



Also I get the Shadows are manipulating Earthdome, how can the Humans be as retarded as to do both mistakes of WWII, fascism and appeasement?


Have you seen the scene where G'Kar and Londo are stuck in an elevator together yet ?
Uncertain which season that was...


During the fire? I couldn’t stop laughing
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:00 am

Tarsonis wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Have you seen the scene where G'Kar and Londo are stuck in an elevator together yet ?
Uncertain which season that was...


During the fire? I couldn’t stop laughing

Cracking scene.

They are the two best characters in the show
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:05 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
During the fire? I couldn’t stop laughing

Cracking scene.

They are the two best characters in the show

G’kar has come around so much, become such a noble leader, I’d follow him into battle any day .
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:05 am

Tarsonis wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Cracking scene.

They are the two best characters in the show

G’kar has come around so much, become such a noble leader, I’d follow him into battle any day .

He gets better
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:44 pm

Wow, Michael York? You know as subcultural as B5 is supposed to be they sure got a lot of huge cameos. Maybe more than Star Trek did
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1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:26 pm

pour one out for Kosh
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:05 pm

So Jeff doesn’t just have Valenn’s reincarnated soul, he is Valen? Did I understand that right
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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:28 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
So Jeff doesn’t just have Valenn’s reincarnated soul, he is Valen? Did I understand that right

Yes.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:32 pm

New haven america wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
So Jeff doesn’t just have Valenn’s reincarnated soul, he is Valen? Did I understand that right

Yes.


My brain hurts
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:37 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes.


My brain hurts

Good!

That means it's working.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:40 am

Tarsonis wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes.


My brain hurts

Yarp, that episode helps a good bit with understanding some stuff that happens in In the Beginning

Also you are flying through this show

What did you think of the Narn vs Shadow battle in their war with the centauri?
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:08 am

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Postby New haven america » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:23 am

Ugh, why is The Expanse s3 taking so long to go onto Amazon?

I'd get it if it was still on Syfy (s2 took like a year, IIRC), but Amazon owns it now, so why...?
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:08 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
My brain hurts

Yarp, that episode helps a good bit with understanding some stuff that happens in In the Beginning

Also you are flying through this show

What did you think of the Narn vs Shadow battle in their war with the centauri?


The Narn got wrecked. I’d say the battles in B5 are more realistic than in ST. I’d imagine more long range engagements like that one than the close up engagements we see in ST
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:28 am

Tarsonis wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Yarp, that episode helps a good bit with understanding some stuff that happens in In the Beginning

Also you are flying through this show

What did you think of the Narn vs Shadow battle in their war with the centauri?


The Narn got wrecked. I’d say the battles in B5 are more realistic than in ST. I’d imagine more long range engagements like that one than the close up engagements we see in ST

Babylon 5 is definitely more realistic compared to a lot of sci fi out there, but not hard core realism say like the Expanse.

Also Narn ships are probably some of the worst in terms of technology and fighting capability , but their heavy cruisers are one of my favourite designs in sci fi. In fact a lot of the ship designs from Babylon 5 are some of the best imo, especially earth force ships
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:48 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
The Narn got wrecked. I’d say the battles in B5 are more realistic than in ST. I’d imagine more long range engagements like that one than the close up engagements we see in ST

Babylon 5 is definitely more realistic compared to a lot of sci fi out there, but not hard core realism say like the Expanse.

Also Narn ships are probably some of the worst in terms of technology and fighting capability , but their heavy cruisers are one of my favourite designs in sci fi. In fact a lot of the ship designs from Babylon 5 are some of the best imo, especially earth force ships




I dunno, the Narn make me think of giant A-Wings. I like the White Star, but only because they remind me of Protoss Scouts.

If you ask me, greatest ship designs in Sci-Fi,... would have to be Firefly/Serenity.
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:46 pm

Wow...a young Bryan Cranston...
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:39 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Wow...a young Bryan Cranston...

Yeah, he was kicking around a long time before he was Malcolm's Dad/Walter White.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:48 pm

This feels like a weird spot to reach the climax of the Shadow War....I mean where do you go from here... I mean it would be like ending the dominion war in season 6..
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby New haven america » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:58 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
This feels like a weird spot to reach the climax of the Shadow War....I mean where do you go from here... I mean it would be like ending the dominion war in season 6..

You do remember there's still that little Earth dictatorship issue, right?
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
This feels like a weird spot to reach the climax of the Shadow War....I mean where do you go from here... I mean it would be like ending the dominion war in season 6..

You do remember there's still that little Earth dictatorship issue, right?

i mean, nothin a few tungsten rods can’t fix.
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:20 pm

Well right now I can pull of a passible Sheridan cosplay....few more years I’m gonnna have to switch to geribaldi
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1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:50 pm

Any of you guys watch Cruscade?
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:51 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Well right now I can pull of a passible Sheridan cosplay....few more years I’m gonnna have to switch to geribaldi

If all else fails, you can go Londo.
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