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Initial Thoughts on Discovery

Love it
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14%
Like it
92
23%
So-so
114
29%
Dislike it
44
11%
Hate it
90
23%
 
Total votes : 396
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:24 pm

Rick & Morty and 32nd century Stacey Abrams both now part of Star Trek canon.

Interesting Thursday.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:47 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Rick & Morty and 32nd century Stacey Abrams both now part of Star Trek canon.

Interesting Thursday.


explains why she was so flat, and opens up the show to possible FEC litigation. Well done Paramount.
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Postby Myrensis » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:58 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Rick & Morty and 32nd century Stacey Abrams both now part of Star Trek canon.

Interesting Thursday.


Ah, the sweet stench of desperate millennial pandering.

Coming in Discovery Season 5: We discover that Tiktok is actually the primary means of communication in the 32nd century Federation, and the gang must travel to the Kim Kardashian Institute of Science to solve a mystery.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:36 pm

Just finished the sixth book.

This is touched on more deeply in them than the show, but it's interesting how The Expanse resolves the issue of how to get to a bunch of Earthlike planets easily by having the aliens intentionally target planets of that type in order to hijack their biomass to use for assembling their gates.

Then throw in a deus ex interception of the Earth-targeted protomolecule by Saturn, an enemy which wipes the gate-builders out, and some human shenanigans which completes the original objective of completing the Sol Gate, and you've got ~1300 systems with at least one Earthlike planet each to play with storywise.

A simple and direct method to go about it, but elegant. Also maintains that the alien ecologies on those planets are still (mostly) incompatible with Earth-sourced life even if they developed in similar environments, which I like.

Having the central hub of the slow zone instead of a decentralized network like in Stargate or Mass Effect is also pretty neat.
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They have been pushing a lot of Trek lately, thankfully.

I was going to give them credit for at least showing all Trek movies but then they aired the exact same Enterprise episodes this Sunday as the week before.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:47 pm

"Women, stop talking."
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Goddamn Discovery, that has got to be the most painfully forced fictional misogyny I've ever seen.
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Postby Voxija » Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:55 pm

My grandma's introducing me to Stargate. I would enjoy it more if my grandma saw it less as a vindication of her ancient astronaut beliefs and more as the interesting speculative fiction story it is.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:08 pm

Voxija wrote:My grandma's introducing me to Stargate. I would enjoy it more if my grandma saw it less as a vindication of her ancient astronaut beliefs and more as the interesting speculative fiction story it is.

Well, despite the questionable motivations behind the introduction, I hope you enjoy it (the 1994 movie, presumably).

Personally, I probably consider Stargate my second favorite sci-fi TV/movie franchise after Star Trek, although SG1 has a bit of a rough start.
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Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
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Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:05 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Voxija wrote:My grandma's introducing me to Stargate. I would enjoy it more if my grandma saw it less as a vindication of her ancient astronaut beliefs and more as the interesting speculative fiction story it is.

Well, despite the questionable motivations behind the introduction, I hope you enjoy it (the 1994 movie, presumably).

Personally, I probably consider Stargate my second favorite sci-fi TV/movie franchise after Star Trek, although SG1 has a bit of a rough start.

Stargate is one of my favourite sci fi franchises too, i love all three series and the original movie. Still bitter about Universe being discontinued lol
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stargate is one of my favourite sci fi franchises too, i love all three series and the original movie. Still bitter about Universe being discontinued lol


It's for the best honestly - it was getting pretty stupid.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:44 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:Well, despite the questionable motivations behind the introduction, I hope you enjoy it (the 1994 movie, presumably).

Personally, I probably consider Stargate my second favorite sci-fi TV/movie franchise after Star Trek, although SG1 has a bit of a rough start.

Stargate is one of my favourite sci fi franchises too, i love all three series and the original movie. Still bitter about Universe being discontinued lol



I was bitter when it happened. I watched it again a few years ago, and man it was way worse than I remember. Robert Carlyle was the only bright spot there
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Twilight Imperium wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stargate is one of my favourite sci fi franchises too, i love all three series and the original movie. Still bitter about Universe being discontinued lol


It's for the best honestly - it was getting pretty stupid.
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stargate is one of my favourite sci fi franchises too, i love all three series and the original movie. Still bitter about Universe being discontinued lol



I was bitter when it happened. I watched it again a few years ago, and man it was way worse than I remember. Robert Carlyle was the only bright spot there
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Stellar Colonies wrote:Well, despite the questionable motivations behind the introduction, I hope you enjoy it (the 1994 movie, presumably).

Personally, I probably consider Stargate my second favorite sci-fi TV/movie franchise after Star Trek, although SG1 has a bit of a rough start.

Stargate is one of my favourite sci fi franchises too, i love all three series and the original movie. Still bitter about Universe being discontinued lol

I remember SGU as improving before being canceled, sort of like ENT, although it has been years since I've watched the latter and even longer since watching the former.
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Postby Juristonia » Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:58 am

Universe improved a little in season 2, but it still never felt like a Stargate show.
Had they made it its own thing, it might've worked, but as a part of a beloved franchise that didn't have any of the things that made that franchise so beloved, it was a dud.
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Tarsonis wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stargate is one of my favourite sci fi franchises too, i love all three series and the original movie. Still bitter about Universe being discontinued lol



I was bitter when it happened. I watched it again a few years ago, and man it was way worse than I remember. Robert Carlyle was the only bright spot there

I watched it a year or two ago after randomly getting in the mood to watch it and i was still annoyed it was cancelled when i finished it again lol
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Aw we got an actual answer to why Picard is British but has a French name

lol great Voyage home reference. iirc they even got the same actor Spock knocked out the first time.
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So, speaking of Stargate...
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Tarsonis wrote:
Aw we got an actual answer to why Picard is British but has a French name

lol great Voyage home reference. iirc they even got the same actor Spock knocked out the first time.

There was also a quick beat where he clutched at his neck for a moment.

Like the third, I personally thought it was a downwards step in comparison to the first two, but not excessively objectionable. At this point in the first season I was starting to get concerned about where the series was going.

For this episode, probably a 7/10 in terms of PIC.
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Universe s2 was great.
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Stellar Colonies wrote:So, speaking of Stargate...

Tarsonis wrote:
Aw we got an actual answer to why Picard is British but has a French name

lol great Voyage home reference. iirc they even got the same actor Spock knocked out the first time.

There was also a quick beat where he clutched at his neck for a moment.

Like the third, I personally thought it was a downwards step in comparison to the first two, but not excessively objectionable. At this point in the first season I was starting to get concerned about where the series was going.

For this episode, probably a 7/10 in terms of PIC.

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Stellar Colonies wrote:So, speaking of Stargate...


There was also a quick beat where he clutched at his neck for a moment.

Like the third, I personally thought it was a downwards step in comparison to the first two, but not excessively objectionable. At this point in the first season I was starting to get concerned about where the series was going.

For this episode, probably a 7/10 in terms of PIC.

Has the Q Continuum taken his powers again? because i'm not certain what else could interfere with a being as powerful as Q

Unclear as of yet, but other Qs have so far been the only thing to interfere with their abilities as far as I know.

My thinking is other Qs, whatever's gone wrong with him becoming worse, or whatever the Watcher is having something to do with it.
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I'm confused about Picard Episode 4...

Have they decided to just retcon the entire episodes with Guinan and Mark Twain?
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Hirota wrote:I'm confused about Picard Episode 4...

Have they decided to just retcon the entire episodes with Guinan and Mark Twain?

I don't think any Star Trek media to feature JL Picard has known or cared that much about internal continuity since "All Good Things."
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Hirota wrote:I'm confused about Picard Episode 4...

Have they decided to just retcon the entire episodes with Guinan and Mark Twain?

You're implying the current showrunners of ST know enough about the franchise to retcon previous material.

A rather bold idea.
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Hirota wrote:I'm confused about Picard Episode 4...

Have they decided to just retcon the entire episodes with Guinan and Mark Twain?

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Watcher_(episode)#Continuity :
"' In the original timeline, their friendship originated in 1893, when Guinan first met Picard as he traveled back in time to the 19th century (TNG: "Time's Arrow"). However, Guinan does not remember that encounter as she meets Picard in this episode. This was explained by Star Trek: Picard showrunner Terry Matalas: “This Guinan wouldn't remember Picard because in this alternate timeline, the TNG episode "Time's Arrow" never happened. Because there was no Federation, those events did not play out the same. No previous relationship exists.""

New haven america wrote:
Hirota wrote:I'm confused about Picard Episode 4...

Have they decided to just retcon the entire episodes with Guinan and Mark Twain?

You're implying the current showrunners of ST know enough about the franchise to retcon previous material.

A rather bold idea.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:35 pm

HC Eredivisie wrote:
Hirota wrote:I'm confused about Picard Episode 4...

Have they decided to just retcon the entire episodes with Guinan and Mark Twain?

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Watcher_(episode)#Continuity :
"' In the original timeline, their friendship originated in 1893, when Guinan first met Picard as he traveled back in time to the 19th century (TNG: "Time's Arrow"). However, Guinan does not remember that encounter as she meets Picard in this episode. This was explained by Star Trek: Picard showrunner Terry Matalas: “This Guinan wouldn't remember Picard because in this alternate timeline, the TNG episode "Time's Arrow" never happened. Because there was no Federation, those events did not play out the same. No previous relationship exists.""

New haven america wrote:You're implying the current showrunners of ST know enough about the franchise to retcon previous material.

A rather bold idea.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:42 pm

HC Eredivisie wrote:
Hirota wrote:I'm confused about Picard Episode 4...

Have they decided to just retcon the entire episodes with Guinan and Mark Twain?

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Watcher_(episode)#Continuity :
"' In the original timeline, their friendship originated in 1893, when Guinan first met Picard as he traveled back in time to the 19th century (TNG: "Time's Arrow"). However, Guinan does not remember that encounter as she meets Picard in this episode. This was explained by Star Trek: Picard showrunner Terry Matalas: “This Guinan wouldn't remember Picard because in this alternate timeline, the TNG episode "Time's Arrow" never happened. Because there was no Federation, those events did not play out the same. No previous relationship exists.""

New haven america wrote:You're implying the current showrunners of ST know enough about the franchise to retcon previous material.

A rather bold idea.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Unnamed_Humans_(21st_century)#Punk_001

And how does a memberberry disprove my point?
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