General fallout discussion thread: Eureka!

[New Frenco Empire]

Who published that guide, do you know?

From this one. It's considered canon, iirc.

[Transnapastain]

Who published that guide, do you know?

From this one. It's considered canon, iirc.

Well, given that it was written by Matthew J. Norton, I'd believe that.

[The Treorai]

I had a conversation with my step-dad about the teaser site.

He said that if it is real, he hopes it isn't like New Vegas. For some reason he preferred FO3 to NV, yet still liked FO 1&2.

[New Frenco Empire]

I had a conversation with my step-dad about the teaser site.

He said that if it is real, he hopes it isn't like New Vegas. For some reason he preferred FO3 to NV, yet still liked FO 1&2.

FO3 is a mixed bag to Fallout veterans. Many of them hate it with a passion, but a considerable amount like it just as well as the classics. Of course, since 3 was my gateway into the series, I can't hate it.

[Transnapastain]

I had a conversation with my step-dad about the teaser site.

He said that if it is real, he hopes it isn't like New Vegas. For some reason he preferred FO3 to NV, yet still liked FO 1&2.

I find that interesting.

I started with Fallout 2 in, like, 2000 or 2001, played Fallout 1 after and loved both. Been a die hard fan since

I liked Fallout 3 as a game, but not so much as a Fallout game, if that makes sense. In its own right, it was a fun game, but it wasn't my Fallout. Te continuity issues bugged me (and you're right that there's been plenty of them across all Fallout media), the story was goofy, and while I suppose it had to happen, I kind of didn't like the fact that Super Mutants, BoS and Enclave showed up. At least they gave the Super Mutants a back story on how they got created in that region of the nation...even if it was Mariposa Part 2. (and I imagine some people would have been pissed if a Fallout staple like the muties hadn't shown up). BoS was shaky...I know they went West, it makes logical sense in any case (and if one believes what Fallout wiki refers to as semi-cannon Fallout Tactics, then we know they went as far as Chicago) and, really, I suppose Enclave isn't too much of stretch, it was the seat of the government, after all (but then why was the President on an oil rig off the shore of California? I need to re-read up on my lore.) but...some baddies NOT the baddies from the last game would have been nice.

At least New Vegas introduced some new "bad guys".

New Vegas was, in my opinion, far an away better than Fo3, if only because it was more my Fallout....down to the look of it, the references to past events and familiar places (which wouldn't have worked in Fo3 anyways), even the reuse of some of the music from Fallout 2.

Fallout 3 was good, it was a fun game, but...Fallot is, and will always be, a California game to me.

[Solaray]

I had a conversation with my step-dad about the teaser site.

He said that if it is real, he hopes it isn't like New Vegas. For some reason he preferred FO3 to NV, yet still liked FO 1&2.

FO3 is a mixed bag to Fallout veterans. Many of them hate it with a passion, but a considerable amount like it just as well as the classics. Of course, since 3 was my gateway into the series, I can't hate it.

I'm another one of the Fallout 3 starters. Never actually played the originals. I actually prefer F3 to New Vegas. The setting and map of New Vegas kinda bores me, I liked the empty, uncivilized Capital Wasteland, even if it really didn't fit Fallout or it's canon as much as the Mojave did. But then they did Lonesome Road, which had the best setting of all the DLCs (IMO) and better than the Mojave, albeit smaller.

[Transnapastain]

I liked the empty, uncivilized Capital Wasteland...

The frickin dsesert wasn't deserted enough for you?!?!

You're right though, Lonesome Road was a great setting and probably the best of FoNV's DLC's. Even if I found its plot line to be a little. "...what?"

[New Frenco Empire]

FO3 is a mixed bag to Fallout veterans. Many of them hate it with a passion, but a considerable amount like it just as well as the classics. Of course, since 3 was my gateway into the series, I can't hate it.

I'm another one of the Fallout 3 starters. Never actually played the originals. I actually prefer F3 to New Vegas. The setting and map of New Vegas kinda bores me, I liked the empty, uncivilized Capital Wasteland, even if it really didn't fit Fallout or it's canon as much as the Mojave did. But then they did Lonesome Road, which had the best setting of all the DLCs (IMO) and better than the Mojave, albeit smaller.

Fo3 introduced me to the series, but I made it a priority to play and finish the originals after I finished my first NV playthrough. Why can't Fallout fans just chill out and enjoy how good the series is!

Yeah, LR was one of my favorites, just because of how fun exploring and playing in it was.

[Lamplight Caverns]

On the subject of DLC, Fo3 had the best of them, in my opinion. Varied, interesting, less out-there, but still having the silly parts.

[New Frenco Empire]

On the subject of DLC, Fo3 had the best of them, in my opinion. Varied, interesting, less out-there, but still having the silly parts.

I agree about the variety part. A lot more uniqueness to the FO3 DLC. One minute, you're liberating Anchorage from the Chinese minute. Another, you're arming a slave rebellion in Pittsburgh. The next, you're desperately trying to escape an alien spaceship.

Though, imo, Old World Blues still beats 'em all!

[Lamplight Caverns]

Though, imo, Old World Blues still beats 'em all!

OWB is definitely a top five. Though I'd have to say The Pitt and Point Lookout are tops.

[The Treorai]

I had a conversation with my step-dad about the teaser site.

He said that if it is real, he hopes it isn't like New Vegas. For some reason he preferred FO3 to NV, yet still liked FO 1&2.

I find that interesting.

I started with Fallout 2 in, like, 2000 or 2001, played Fallout 1 after and loved both. Been a die hard fan since

I liked Fallout 3 as a game, but not so much as a Fallout game, if that makes sense. In its own right, it was a fun game, but it wasn't my Fallout. Te continuity issues bugged me (and you're right that there's been plenty of them across all Fallout media), the story was goofy, and while I suppose it had to happen, I kind of didn't like the fact that Super Mutants, BoS and Enclave showed up. At least they gave the Super Mutants a back story on how they got created in that region of the nation...even if it was Mariposa Part 2. (and I imagine some people would have been pissed if a Fallout staple like the muties hadn't shown up). BoS was shaky...I know they went West, it makes logical sense in any case (and if one believes what Fallout wiki refers to as semi-cannon Fallout Tactics, then we know they went as far as Chicago) and, really, I suppose Enclave isn't too much of stretch, it was the seat of the government, after all (but then why was the President on an oil rig off the shore of California? I need to re-read up on my lore.) but...some baddies NOT the baddies from the last game would have been nice.

At least New Vegas introduced some new "bad guys".

New Vegas was, in my opinion, far an away better than Fo3, if only because it was more my Fallout....down to the look of it, the references to past events and familiar places (which wouldn't have worked in Fo3 anyways), even the reuse of some of the music from Fallout 2.

Fallout 3 was good, it was a fun game, but...Fallot is, and will always be, a California game to me.

I came into the series with Tactics. I have loved all of the others.

Your points are very understandable.

Also, the Enclave left east after the Oil Rig got Blewed Up, and set up shop all across the mid-west. Specifically Chicago. Afterwards they sent some guys to DC, where they found an active ZAX Super Computer, that would eventually become President Eden. IIRC Commander Autumn used the super computer, who had long since taken on the role as acting president, as a figure head to control the Enclave more effectively.

Atleast, that's how I remember it. You can go read the official timeline to see everything that happened. I found it highly entertaining to read through the whole thing. Read it here.

[Morrdh]

The LA Boneyard was hit directly, yet it is still inhabited. DC was hit directly multiple times, as was Chicago (if you believe the spin-offs). Besides: continuity errors are common place in fallout lore. There has yet to be a conclusive bit of evidence to suggest when the bombs dropped.

I'm not saying it's real, but it seems fairly creditable.

IIRC the nukes in Fallout are meant to spread radiation more than they are meant to destroy, apparently H-bombs were retired before the Great War.

[The Revolutionary Fighters of Intel]

I liked the empty, uncivilized Capital Wasteland...

The frickin dsesert wasn't deserted enough for you?!?!

On my first play through of FNV I hated and feared the desert. It was very wide, open and deserted meaning that you could be attacked out of nowhere. Seeing as my character was relatively weak at all forms of fighting getting from Point A to Point B was like a race where I would stop at any forms of civilisation.

Nuclear Winter is coming in 8 hours everyone.

[The Soviet League]

The frickin dsesert wasn't deserted enough for you?!?!

On my first play through of FNV I hated and feared the desert. It was very wide, open and deserted meaning that you could be attacked out of nowhere. Seeing as my character was relatively weak at all forms of fighting getting from Point A to Point B was like a race where I would stop at any forms of civilisation.

Nuclear Winter is coming in 8 hours everyone.

Let's see if Fallout 4 teaser or announcement comes, or it will have a gigantic troll face on it.

[Solaray]

On the subject of DLC, Fo3 had the best of them, in my opinion. Varied, interesting, less out-there, but still having the silly parts.

I agree about the variety part. A lot more uniqueness to the FO3 DLC. One minute, you're liberating Anchorage from the Chinese minute. Another, you're arming a slave rebellion in Pittsburgh. The next, you're desperately trying to escape an alien spaceship.

Though, imo, Old World Blues still beats 'em all!

I usually side with the slavers when I play the Pitt. Even though my characters are usually good or neutral. I love how both sides in the Pitt are so grey.

[Lunas Legion]

So, the countdown has ended, and this is what we get;

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT

Get cracking, people.

[Yes Im Biop]

So, the countdown has ended, and this is what we get;

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT

Get cracking, people.

It's already been cracked

21:02 - The message is decoded by IRC user GiveF4. It’s a Keyed Vigenere cipher, passphrase Vault Tec: THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US

Also the morse code reads

"Calling all Station, this is overseer 119 emergency enemy unknown, SOS. Vault 119 Quabbin 7667, repeat, SOS, Vault 119 Quabbin 7667 enemy unknown.

[The Soviet League]

So, the countdown has ended, and this is what we get;

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT

Get cracking, people.

It's already been cracked

21:02 - The message is decoded by IRC user GiveF4. It’s a Keyed Vigenere cipher, passphrase Vault Tec: THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US

Also the morse code reads

"Calling all Station, this is overseer 119 emergency enemy unknown, SOS. Vault 119 Quabbin 7667, repeat, SOS, Vault 119 Quabbin 7667 enemy unknown.

You forgot that they also said "I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW".

[Maryginia]

How?

So Her marker near an area thatt at least not on the nap though looked like the strip, Figured wait did I leave her at the lucky 38, and her marker is messed up, Didn't see her in the room, or by the elevator, saw the dismissal terminal figured what the heck, dismissed, and it sent her back to the 188, and I re-recruited her.

[Maryginia]

Yeah, I didn't like that since if you weren't sided with the NCR, you were going to have problems.
And the worst part is, if you're trying to be neutral with both sides, you'll eventually end up having the NCR liking you with the Legion on your ass because of all the quests you can do for the NCR. Even if you complete those quests in a way that earns you less reputation over a higher pay.

Exactly. Just walking a straight line will see to it that the NCR loves you, and the legion kills you on sight. Unless you go and shoot up McCarran, it ends the same every time. They gave the Legion /no/ effort, and dared to call it a multi-choice campaign.

Hell, if I reinstall it, sometime, I might have to do some big mod where the Legion is expanded upon. I used to do personal mods for 3, so it's not too outrageous of an effort.

There is a mod that doers that.

[Maryginia]

Please tell me you all have been paying attention

I would also suggest, and request feedback, on this being a more general Fallout thread?

1 day, 42 minutes and 28 seconds at time of post but also reportedly ticking down to the 11th of December.

Trans, With all due respect, I'm OK with some Other fallout stuff going on, If it can tie into NV, and even a little bit not able to be tied in, But With all due respect, I'd prefer this doesn't go into a more general thread, or get turned into a Mega-thread.

[New Frenco Empire]

Please tell me you all have been paying attention

I would also suggest, and request feedback, on this being a more general Fallout thread?

1 day, 42 minutes and 28 seconds at time of post but also reportedly ticking down to the 11th of December.

Considering this thread has shifted more towards FO4 news, I'd support changing this into a general Fallout thread.

[The Soviet League]

Please tell me you all have been paying attention

I would also suggest, and request feedback, on this being a more general Fallout thread?

1 day, 42 minutes and 28 seconds at time of post but also reportedly ticking down to the 11th of December.

Considering this thread has shifted more towards FO4 news, I'd support changing this into a general Fallout thread.

I second this motion.

[Maryginia]

Please tell me you all have been paying attention

I would also suggest, and request feedback, on this being a more general Fallout thread?

1 day, 42 minutes and 28 seconds at time of post but also reportedly ticking down to the 11th of December.

Considering this thread has shifted more towards FO4 news, I'd support changing this into a general Fallout thread.

Isn't there an FO4 thread?