The Star Wars vs. WH40K Debate

[Vareiln]

It is. Especially Grand Admiral Thrawn.

this is why star wars got sold to Disney.

No. Star Wars got sold to Disney because of Lucas being greedy. Not because of the EU.
Hell, they'll likely ignore the EU.

[The Zeonic States]

You want to know my personal favorite of palpatine's abilities?

The ability to use the Life force of his very subjects to keep himself alives and increase his power.

He used an entire Planet of billions for that Method, It kept him all but Immortal and increasingly more and more powerful.

The ability to create and control a force storm? Insanely impressive, The ability to duel five jedi master's and kill four of them in a matter of moments? Again impressive but nothing compared to that one trick.

So, all those living things coming from the 40k Universe would just be "soul food" for Palpatine?

Pretty much; No idea how he did it and the trick died with him to my knowledge but he had the power to literally use the lIfe force of billions to keep himself alive and (Basically immortal) Along with increasing his power in the force to levels never seen before.

It literally took destorying that entire planet to make him vulunerable.

[Hurdegaryp]

this is why star wars got sold to Disney.

No. Star Wars got sold to Disney because of Lucas being greedy. Not because of the EU.
Hell, they'll likely ignore the EU.

Given that Lucas is going to use the money received for Star Wars to fund an education project, I'm afraid your view is rather black & white.

[Trollgaard]

this is why star wars got sold to Disney.

No. Star Wars got sold to Disney because of Lucas being greedy. Not because of the EU.
Hell, they'll likely ignore the EU.

Good Lord, I hope not! What is the new movie in 2015 going to be about if not Grand Admiral Thrawn!?!?!?

[The Zeonic States]

You want to know my personal favorite of palpatine's abilities?

The ability to use the Life force of his very subjects to keep himself alives and increase his power.

He used an entire Planet of billions for that Method, It kept him all but Immortal and increasingly more and more powerful.

The ability to create and control a force storm? Insanely impressive, The ability to duel five jedi master's and kill four of them in a matter of moments? Again impressive but nothing compared to that one trick.

I'm kind of rusty when it comes to Star Wars lore on Palpatine's abilities. The planet you're mentioning is Byss, correct?

Yup; The Rebellion- New Republic sorry used the galatic gun to destory it to make him killable but Yeah he basically was a god while that planet was around.

[Vareiln]

No. Star Wars got sold to Disney because of Lucas being greedy. Not because of the EU.
Hell, they'll likely ignore the EU.

Given that Lucas is going to use the money received for Star Wars to fund an education project, I'm afraid your view is rather black & white.

Then I'm wrong.

[Vareiln]

No. Star Wars got sold to Disney because of Lucas being greedy. Not because of the EU.
Hell, they'll likely ignore the EU.

Good Lord, I hope not! What is the new movie in 2015 going to be about if not Grand Admiral Thrawn!?!?!?

Whatever it is, it won't be based on anything in the EU.

[The Zeonic States]

No. Star Wars got sold to Disney because of Lucas being greedy. Not because of the EU.
Hell, they'll likely ignore the EU.

Good Lord, I hope not! What is the new movie in 2015 going to be about if not Grand Admiral Thrawn!?!?!?

It would be insanely interesting to see if they could portray thrawn in a live action film, By far one of the most interesting antagonists presented in the EU easily.

[The Zeonic States]

Good Lord, I hope not! What is the new movie in 2015 going to be about if not Grand Admiral Thrawn!?!?!?

Whatever it is, it won't be based on anything in the EU.

THAT JUST UTTERLY SUCKS! I am already disapointed.

[Trollgaard]

Good Lord, I hope not! What is the new movie in 2015 going to be about if not Grand Admiral Thrawn!?!?!?

Whatever it is, it won't be based on anything in the EU.

Wha...wha..whyyyyyyyyyyyyy???!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

[The Zeonic States]

I'm sorry is that the extended universe. I stay away from that crap.

Crap? I'm sorry, did you just call the EU crap?
Some of it(As there is literally hundreds of people who have contributed to it) is indeed crap, but as a whole? Not at all.

I enjoy some portions of the EU greatily, Even those taking place in the distant past or Future of the Genre it really depends upon the Author and Subject matter but i view Zahn's stuff as perfect as you can get into the EU personally from the Heir to the Empire Trilogy to its' sequels to it's prequels in the early days of the Empire.

Also liked erm what was it? Outbound flight, excellent.

I liked how he was very good at tieing in storylines.

[Laeriland]

Good Lord, I hope not! What is the new movie in 2015 going to be about if not Grand Admiral Thrawn!?!?!?

Whatever it is, it won't be based on anything in the EU.

Not quite, it says that it will not be directly (emphasis is mine) based on anything in the EU.

[Vareiln]

Crap? I'm sorry, did you just call the EU crap?
Some of it(As there is literally hundreds of people who have contributed to it) is indeed crap, but as a whole? Not at all.

I enjoy some portions of the EU greatily, Even those taking place in the distant past or Future of the Genre it really depends upon the Author and Subject matter but i view Zahn's stuff as perfect as you can get into the EU personally from the Heir to the Empire Trilogy to its' sequels to it's prequels in the early days of the Empire.

Also liked erm what was it? Outbound flight, excellent.

I liked how he was very good at tieing in storylines.

Personally, I liked the storylines that came after the Vong invasion. They were all pretty cool, especially Jacen's descent.
Also, Zahn is supposedly going to somehow be involved in the movie. Likely going to be working with Lucas as a creative adviser or something.

[Vareiln]

Whatever it is, it won't be based on anything in the EU.

Not quite, it says that it will not be directly (emphasis is mine) based on anything in the EU.

Still, my point was that it won't be based on the Thrawn trilogy or another storyline.

[Trollgaard]

I enjoy some portions of the EU greatily, Even those taking place in the distant past or Future of the Genre it really depends upon the Author and Subject matter but i view Zahn's stuff as perfect as you can get into the EU personally from the Heir to the Empire Trilogy to its' sequels to it's prequels in the early days of the Empire.

Also liked erm what was it? Outbound flight, excellent.

I liked how he was very good at tieing in storylines.

Personally, I liked the storylines that came after the Vong invasion. They were all pretty cool, especially Jacen's descent.
Also, Zahn is supposedly going to somehow be involved in the movie. Likely going to be working with Lucas as a creative adviser or something.

I'm still butthurt that it isn't going to be the Thrawn trilogy.

[Laeriland]

Not quite, it says that it will not be directly (emphasis is mine) based on anything in the EU.

Still, my point was that it won't be based on the Thrawn trilogy or another storyline.

I love that book series as much as the next guy but I can hardly blame them for wanting to write their own material. Doesn't mean that they can't, and won't, use some of what the others have created for them however.

I'm still butthurt that it isn't going to be the Thrawn trilogy.

Be realistic, the chances of that happening were never more than slim at best.

[The Zeonic States]

Personally, I liked the storylines that came after the Vong invasion. They were all pretty cool, especially Jacen's descent.
Also, Zahn is supposedly going to somehow be involved in the movie. Likely going to be working with Lucas as a creative adviser or something.

I'm still butthurt that it isn't going to be the Thrawn trilogy.

It does friggin suck

[The Zeonic States]

I enjoy some portions of the EU greatily, Even those taking place in the distant past or Future of the Genre it really depends upon the Author and Subject matter but i view Zahn's stuff as perfect as you can get into the EU personally from the Heir to the Empire Trilogy to its' sequels to it's prequels in the early days of the Empire.

Also liked erm what was it? Outbound flight, excellent.

I liked how he was very good at tieing in storylines.

Personally, I liked the storylines that came after the Vong invasion. They were all pretty cool, especially Jacen's descent.
Also, Zahn is supposedly going to somehow be involved in the movie. Likely going to be working with Lucas as a creative adviser or something.

Jacen, Jacen, Jacen had such high, High hopes for you my boy.

The final Student of the woman taught by Darth Vader, he was sort of the end of Vader's Chain in a way.

He was an excellent Sith but he Ultimately couldn't stick to the tenents of that Order unforunately.

His sister was obviously going to be the one that killed him, i saw that miles off but i was still pissed when it happened because personally? He could have taken her, Sword of the Jedi or no he was that damn good.

He dueled Luke to a standstill and he was much stronger then her.

[Agymnum]

Preference goes to Warhammer 40k for not pussying-around.

Star Wars gets a close-second for properly simulating galactic bureaucracy, in all its glory and bullshit.

Halo's just your run-of-the-mill, sci-fi shooter. Nothing special, and nothing I've felt to be worth playing.

[The UEG-Space Command]

Preference goes to Warhammer 40k for not pussying-around.

Star Wars gets a close-second for properly simulating galactic bureaucracy, in all its glory and bullshit.

Halo's just your run-of-the-mill, sci-fi shooter. Nothing special, and nothing I've felt to be worth playing.

Halo has novels and film two you know? heck Halo 4 was very in depth for the main character.

And the Forerunner novels are not bad either.

[Arkotania]

Preference goes to Warhammer 40k for not pussying-around.

Star Wars gets a close-second for properly simulating galactic bureaucracy, in all its glory and bullshit.

Halo's just your run-of-the-mill, sci-fi shooter. Nothing special, and nothing I've felt to be worth playing.

Though I think the realism of 40k tends to die as it progresses. The most coherent plot/story for the 40k universe, for me, was the Horus Heresy, after that it felt like everything else was just being stretched longer and longer.

[The Zeonic States]

Preference goes to Warhammer 40k for not pussying-around.

Star Wars gets a close-second for properly simulating galactic bureaucracy, in all its glory and bullshit.

Halo's just your run-of-the-mill, sci-fi shooter. Nothing special, and nothing I've felt to be worth playing.

Halo has novels and film two you know? heck Halo 4 was very in depth for the main character.

And the Forerunner novels are not bad either.

Greg Bear is a Friggin Hack

[Gauthier]

And actually might level the playing field.

Yeah, otherwise 40k would curbstomp star wars.

If it's fan made, it'll be pure Nerdrage Calvinball with bias towards one or the other.

If it was GW made, barring someone's ego the brand name push would weight towards SW in varying degrees.

[Agymnum]

Preference goes to Warhammer 40k for not pussying-around.

Star Wars gets a close-second for properly simulating galactic bureaucracy, in all its glory and bullshit.

Halo's just your run-of-the-mill, sci-fi shooter. Nothing special, and nothing I've felt to be worth playing.

Halo has novels and film two you know? heck Halo 4 was very in depth for the main character.

And the Forerunner novels are not bad either.

To be honest, Halo never really struck me as doing anything particularly original or fresh with the sci-fi genre.

Star Wars gets a pass for basically inventing modern, mainstream sci-fi (along with Star Trek), and Warhammer 40k gets a pass for taking sci-fi and giving it a pair of wheelbarrow-sized testicles.

Halo's not bad, don't get me wrong. I've played it, but I've never understood the hype. It's alright, pretty good in terms of production values, but it's not something I'd go out of my way to show to my children and be like, "Back in my day, we used to play with this here video game, boy!"

[The UEG-Space Command]

Halo has novels and film two you know? heck Halo 4 was very in depth for the main character.

And the Forerunner novels are not bad either.

Greg Bear is a Friggin Hack

*Shoots head of with a Bolter Hardlight combo*

"Heretics best keep quite or else they upset the gods"