The Star Wars vs. WH40K Debate

[Trollgaard]

Indeed; Toss in things like the Sun Crusher and Galatic Gun and such? You have devices capable of destorying Solar Systems.

The Starforge a platform capable of generating Military vessels, Droids and Materials of war and pretty much anything else with little to no resources being used.

Starwars has a few things capable of making it "Invincible"

And that's putting it lightly.

And I sense we're about to get back into it, so I'm just going to drop it.

How about we compare the two in terms of story telling and general atmosphere? I like how 40k is going with the grimdark thing, it's a fresh breeze from the usual Hollywood "Good guys always win, happy ending" stuff we usually get, but sometimes I feel they go a bit to far into it, ya know?

Oh, I revel in it! I can't get enough! Why I'm so far into that the Imperium is my paradise!

[Graditora]

I'm like the only Starcraft fan

[Trollgaard]

I'm like the only Starcraft fan

*boots the heretic out the door*

[Arkotania]

We don't have to, I"m just sayin'.

Space Marines and all that.

Again, not that simple.

But yeah, if he had gotten the Star Forge, nothing would've stopped him. Hell, even 40k wouldn't be able to.

No forge world could compete with a station that pumps out hundreds of cruisers and battleships and fighters within hours(though with the dark force of Palpatine or Vader, it would probably be faster. Malak was nothing...)

[Bone Fort]

I'm like the only Starcraft fan

No, I'm with you, it's a great game.

[The Zeonic States]

Indeed; Toss in things like the Sun Crusher and Galatic Gun and such? You have devices capable of destorying Solar Systems.

The Starforge a platform capable of generating Military vessels, Droids and Materials of war and pretty much anything else with little to no resources being used.

Starwars has a few things capable of making it "Invincible"

And that's putting it lightly.

And I sense we're about to get back into it, so I'm just going to drop it.

How about we compare the two in terms of story telling and general atmosphere? I like how 40k is going with the grimdark thing, it's a fresh breeze from the usual Hollywood "Good guys always win, happy ending" stuff we usually get, but sometimes I feel they go a bit to far into it, ya know?

Indeed; I liked the early EU and how it presented new characters into the existing Universe, Generally after the defeat of the Imperial Forces at Endor.

Grand Admiral Thrawn is a excellent example, He was a Brilliant Military leader and His motivations are clouded in shadows until much later on.

He did horrible things, Genocide and Enslavement included but all for preparing the galaxy to fight the threat to come.

He is the perfect example of a fellow who could have been a protagonist but was slated to be an antagonist due to his methods.

Jacen Solo is another example, He like Anakin skywalker fell to the Darkside to Avoid the Horrors that would befall those he loved if he remained who he was.

Starwars has its fair shareof the "Grim Dark" Storyline, it just generally ends with the "Good Guys" Winning and ending up looking like Jack asses later.

[Hurdegaryp]

How about we compare the two in terms of story telling and general atmosphere? I like how 40k is going with the grimdark thing, it's a fresh breeze from the usual Hollywood "Good guys always win, happy ending" stuff we usually get, but sometimes I feel they go a bit to far into it, ya know?

Oh, I revel in it! I can't get enough! Why I'm so far into that the Imperium is my paradise!

The Imperium is your paradise? I don't envy you. I don't envy you at all! They do have all those amazing tanks and titans, though. Big, clunky and lumbering, yet equipped with impressive weaponry. I can dig that.

[Arkotania]

Oh, I revel in it! I can't get enough! Why I'm so far into that the Imperium is my paradise!

The Imperium is your paradise? I don't envy you. I don't envy you at all! They do have all those amazing tanks and titans, though. Big, clunky and lumbering, yet equipped with impressive weaponry. I can dig that.

Pray that the machine spirit doesn't refuse to start up today(or did you just forget to fuel the damn thing?)

[Trollgaard]

Oh, I revel in it! I can't get enough! Why I'm so far into that the Imperium is my paradise!

The Imperium is your paradise? I don't envy you. I don't envy you at all! They do have all those amazing tanks and titans, though. Big, clunky and lumbering, yet equipped with impressive weaponry. I can dig that.

For the God Emperor!

Why don't ye envy me?

[Hurdegaryp]

The Imperium is your paradise? I don't envy you. I don't envy you at all! They do have all those amazing tanks and titans, though. Big, clunky and lumbering, yet equipped with impressive weaponry. I can dig that.

For the God Emperor!

Why don't ye envy me?

Because in the future there is only war.

[Trollgaard]

For the God Emperor!

Why don't ye envy me?

Because in the future there is only war.

YES!

[Arkotania]

For the God Emperor!

Why don't ye envy me?

Because in the future there is only war.

And Matt Ward.

[The Zeonic States]

Because in the future there is only war.

And Matt Ward.

Friggin Bum

[Empire of Narnia]

Star Wars because it's the coolest and it has the force.

[Primordial Luxa]

Because in the future there is only war.

And Matt Ward.

He is not an accurate representation of what we enjoy in our hobby

[The UEG-Space Command]

Forerunners kill star wars and Warhammer before kicking their own universes ass, then the Precursors kick their ass.

Anyways the winner is Halo, the Modern races don't really have much on Star Wars (EU added, Movie gets pwned) and Warhammer.

But when the Ancient Halo races like Ancient Humanity and San 'Shyuum, plus the Forerunners and the Flood and the Precursors, they just run right through Star Wars and Warhammer like nothing.

And this guy visits Spacebattles every day, I know my facts.

When it comes to what I like more?

Halo
Warhammer
Star Wars (Because EU)

[The UEG-Space Command]

I prefer 40k, but I like star wars a lot. I don't know much about Halo, but from what I know it seems pretty neat, though not nearly as cool as the other two settings.

Also, 40k would stomp the other settings if they got into a war.

Modern Halo yes, Ancient Halo laughs for a good twenty minutes before the force Warhammer to lube up.

[Condunum]

I love Star Wars, I love 40K, but halo has been he seiries I've stuck with side I began to get into shooters and war stories.

[Condunum]

Forerunners kill star wars and Warhammer before kicking their own universes ass, then the Precursors kick their ass.

Anyways the winner is Halo, the Modern races don't really have much on Star Wars (EU added, Movie gets pwned) and Warhammer.

But when the Ancient Halo races like Ancient Humanity and San 'Shyuum, plus the Forerunners and the Flood and the Precursors, they just run right through Star Wars and Warhammer like nothing.

And this guy visits Spacebattles every day, I know my facts.

When it comes to what I like more?

Halo
Warhammer
Star Wars (Because EU)

You obviously do not know what happens when a full sized hive fleet comes to town. The flood were a cakewalk in comparison.

[Kreanoltha]

Forerunners kill star wars and Warhammer before kicking their own universes ass, then the Precursors kick their ass.

Anyways the winner is Halo, the Modern races don't really have much on Star Wars (EU added, Movie gets pwned) and Warhammer.

But when the Ancient Halo races like Ancient Humanity and San 'Shyuum, plus the Forerunners and the Flood and the Precursors, they just run right through Star Wars and Warhammer like nothing.

And this guy visits Spacebattles every day, I know my facts.

When it comes to what I like more?

Halo
Warhammer
Star Wars (Because EU)

You obviously do not know what happens when a full sized hive fleet comes to town. The flood were a cakewalk in comparison.

Uh... no. You need to catch up on the Culture Greg Bear Forerunner. The Forerunner are basically the Culture now. They could fight the factions of WH40K from hundreds or even thousands of light years away by just firing through slipspace. They could send a single warship to go strafe a solar system. It will never have to leave slipspace. It won't even have to slow down. A single Forerunner non-combat ship tanked teratons. It was made almost completely out of hard light. Their War Sphinxes (think their version of an AC-130) can casually wipe cities off the map. The Forerunner outclass everything in WH40K in an extreme way.

[The UEG-Space Command]

Forerunners kill star wars and Warhammer before kicking their own universes ass, then the Precursors kick their ass.

Anyways the winner is Halo, the Modern races don't really have much on Star Wars (EU added, Movie gets pwned) and Warhammer.

But when the Ancient Halo races like Ancient Humanity and San 'Shyuum, plus the Forerunners and the Flood and the Precursors, they just run right through Star Wars and Warhammer like nothing.

And this guy visits Spacebattles every day, I know my facts.

When it comes to what I like more?

Halo
Warhammer
Star Wars (Because EU)

You obviously do not know what happens when a full sized hive fleet comes to town. The flood were a cakewalk in comparison.

No, the Flood were no cakewalk, they tend to fight on the level of their opponent when they test the race (whole Mantle of Responsibility thing and all.) The Nids would have been cooked far faster than the Flood if they attacked the Forerunners, even at full size.

And to end future debates, Forerunners are just slightly below the Culture, if you don't know what the Culture is then that is alright.

http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/ ... ad.236388/

Flood were not a stupid race of zombies, they were controlled by a entity that would fit in the likes of Warhammer itself or lovecraft. The Flood managed to beat the Forerunners because they could last long enough for Gravemind to corrupt Mendicant Bias thus meaning they could bring the Ecumene to its knees.

[Napkiraly]

And Matt Ward.

He is not an accurate representation of what we enjoy in our hobby

Exactly, the man writes codices by shitting on a keyboard and whatever happens goes into them.

[Maroza]

Rule number 27: Do not refer to the machine spirit as cruse control.

[Ultis Templarii]

Oh, come now.

The Warp would so totally rip the forerunners a new one.

If they can't handle zombies with just a little bit of psychic powers then how would they stack up to something like Chaos with all the four powers especially Tzeentch?

The last time something in 40K similar were the Eldar who were quite similar to the forerunner and look how they wound up.

[Crookfur]

40k Always wins because of the sheer amount of "just as planned" and CCCRRREEEEEEEDDDDDDD!!!!!!